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Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 8 @ 8:08 AM ET
Aside from being annoyed about the term of the Tanev contract, this forward lineup is going to be pretty solid. The important thing is that this is the type of lineup Sullivan wants to deploy. 4 lines that can constantly apply pressure.

The only glaring hole is one LD they need badly. On the JJ to Anaheim rumors, I'd love it if we just sent JJ and a 1st to bring Sprong back... just for fun.

- MacPatty



... where the (frank) you gonna play Sprong? We already have too many mid 6 forwards.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:09 AM ET
TIOPS reporting JJ to Anaheim potentially....Fingers crossed JR can pull it off and that they are close
- 123Kid


I don’t think TIOPS has ever gotten a rumor right so I wouldn’t put stock into it.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:10 AM ET
Think there are a lot of good middle six players on the roster but by season end you will find he is the 4th best.

One of my complaints about the Pens has been they never seem to have anyone who can shoot the puck and Galchenyuk certainly can. He is going to do really well on one of the top 2 lines.

- MacPatty


Galchenyuk is a worse version of Kessel.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:10 AM ET
I think he is a guy you could tack onto a JJ trade instead of a mid round pick. He isn't a bad player but definitely not ideal in the top 9.
- MacPatty


Nah. This is wrong.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 8 @ 9:24 AM ET
I don’t think TIOPS has ever gotten a rumor right so I wouldn’t put stock into it.
- j.boyd919

He's repeating stuff that was out there a week ago, so maybe he gets this right.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:29 AM ET
I think he is a guy you could tack onto a JJ trade instead of a mid round pick. He isn't a bad player but definitely not ideal in the top 9.
- MacPatty

Not ideal top 9? Explain yourself.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:33 AM ET
Not ideal top 9? Explain yourself.
- Feds91Stammer


Was it really not clear that I am saying if Simon is in the top line then the Pens aren't fielding a great roster.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 8 @ 9:42 AM ET
Was it really not clear that I am saying if Simon is in the top line then the Pens aren't fielding a great roster.
- MacPatty



Near every metric but Simon's own GF% says you are wrong, but okay.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:43 AM ET
... where the (frank) you gonna play Sprong? We already have too many mid 6 forwards.
- Guile


Well I was half joking but if you did that trade I'd move Rust for a draft pick and use the cap space to go after Gardiner.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:43 AM ET
Was it really not clear that I am saying if Simon is in the top line then the Pens aren't fielding a great roster.
- MacPatty

Top line and top 9 are definitely 2 different things
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:44 AM ET
TIOPS reporting JJ to Anaheim potentially....Fingers crossed JR can pull it off and that they are close
- 123Kid


Is Cam Fowler still good? Swap him for JJ +?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 8 @ 9:51 AM ET
Is Cam Fowler still good? Swap him for JJ +?
- sammy87



I feel like Fowler's name alone is worth more than JJ.

Fowler cardboard cutout and a 7th round pick for JJ+ 5th round pick.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:52 AM ET
Is Cam Fowler still good? Swap him for JJ +?
- sammy87

https://public.tableau.co...es&:origin=viz_share_link
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:53 AM ET
Is Cam Fowler still good? Swap him for JJ +?
- sammy87

Fowler is still just as good as Brendan Smith.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:53 AM ET
I feel like Fowler's name alone is worth more than JJ.

Fowler cardboard cutout and a 7th round pick for JJ+ 5th round pick.

- Guile

Fowler has been significantly overrated his entire career.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:55 AM ET
Top line and top 9 are definitely 2 different things
- Feds91Stammer


That was a typo... top 9.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:57 AM ET
Near every metric but Simon's own GF% says you are wrong, but okay.
- Guile


Show me his metrics away from Sid and Geno. I'm not saying he is terrible, but I do think he is a bit of a passenger.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:03 AM ET
Show me his metrics away from Sid and Geno. I'm not saying he is terrible, but I do think he is a bit of a passenger.
- MacPatty

He is literally the opposite of a passenger lol
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 8 @ 10:11 AM ET
Show me his metrics away from Sid and Geno. I'm not saying he is terrible, but I do think he is a bit of a passenger.
- MacPatty



You mean the metrics of his time on the 3rd line? Go back a few pages and look on your own. They've been posted a ton the last day or so.

He also has near no time with Geno, and more time was spent away from Sid than with him. You're being willfully ignorant.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 8 @ 10:16 AM ET
Show me his metrics away from Sid and Geno. I'm not saying he is terrible, but I do think he is a bit of a passenger.
- MacPatty



Why do you think he's a passenger? Why dont you like him overall? What are his cons to you?


These are legit questions I am wondering.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:17 AM ET
Was it really not clear that I am saying if Simon is in the top line then the Pens aren't fielding a great roster.
- MacPatty


Thinking is hard for you eh?
chudd95
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 8 @ 10:17 AM ET
WBS just signed Dustin Tokarski. I think this opens the door for Jarry to be moved.
MikeyKay
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 05.24.2017

Jul 8 @ 10:25 AM ET
Thinking is hard for you eh?
- j.boyd919


The files are IN the computer..
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:26 AM ET
WBS just signed Dustin Tokarski. I think this opens the door for Jarry to be moved.
- chudd95

Not sure what an AHL backup has to do with Jarry.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 8 @ 10:28 AM ET
WBS just signed Dustin Tokarski. I think this opens the door for Jarry to be moved.
- chudd95


Or DeSmith, but yes this points largely to another trade coming.
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