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YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
GMJR just mentioned in his presser he expects to add a few more depth players today...

and also said a quality penguins player will need to be traded
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

Jul 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
What the holy hell is going on here? It appears to be a civil war.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
GMJR just mentioned in his presser he expects to add a few more depth players today...

and also said a quality penguins player will need to be traded

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Tanev?
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
Read a couple of different places from Jets fans regarding Tanev...

- He will be a fan favorite very quickly.
- $3.5 is a decent cost, but the term is a bit long.
- He plays the game like a fast Chris Kunitz.
- Will be very good in the room.

Hope this helps.

RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:28 PM ET
If the end result is they move Rust in a similar move to Maatta, but get an affordable, puck moving LHD that pushes JJ out, then I'll be happy with things overall.

But they have to do something like that.

- Tojo.


One thing I've learned watching Vegas and Tampa, is if you can just accumulate tradeable assets (nix JJ), even if you move them out for nothing (Colin Miller - Vegas) sometimes you can do well by doing it (JT Miller - Tampa)

Rust has trade value, whatever value that brings can be added to the asset that we just got for free, If it's not Rust, maybe it'll be Horn - who knows

Remember, at lot of Rust's stats have been put up riding shotgun to Malkin and Crosby

They are both 12-15 goal guys who PK, with speed, who can slot up and down the lineup. 3 million-ish is the going rate everywhere for those guys
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 1 @ 2:28 PM ET
GMJR just mentioned in his presser he expects to add a few more depth players today...

and also said a quality penguins player will need to be traded

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Obviously he thinks JJ is quality. Maybe he is referring to him.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
Tanev?
- jmatchett383



Tanev and JJ for a 5th to Ottawa...

Then we go and snag Gardner lol
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
What the holy hell is going on here? It appears to be a civil war.
- BOSS_TWEED

Nah most people see eye to eye on the state of affairs here. There’s just two guys who actively root for bad moves just to #OwnTheLibs.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
Nah most people see eye to eye on the state of affairs here. There’s just two guys who actively root for bad moves just to #OwnTheLibs.
- Victoro311


Crosby sucks?
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
about to have an unpopular hot take.... But how much of this is to blame on ownership for not stepping in. I mean... at some point... you gotta look at whose letting him do this.
- Grizzsh

I agree with this...I think after last years debacle with JJ ownership should've shortened JR's leash substantially...apparently that is not happening.
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
We overpaid a guy who can play by 750k-1 million.... maybe

Window closed, Slammed Shut - Trade everyone for picks and start the rebuild now...


- RoloTahmasee


We overpaid a guy by like a million and 3 years to many. Add that to the overpay for Jack Johnson and trading for Gudbranson who is also over paid. You look at a singular move by GMJR and say no big deal we overpaid by a mill. But when you look at the long game these overpays are keeping the roster from being upgraded in a meaningful way.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
about to have an unpopular hot take.... But how much of this is to blame on ownership for not stepping in. I mean... at some point... you gotta look at whose letting him do this.
- Grizzsh



... where is the unpopular hot take?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
Crosby sucks?
- jmatchett383

Hey now, stop encroaching on Martox’s brand.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
They also said that if their RFA situation wasn’t such a cluster, they wouldn’t have let him go.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
GMJR just mentioned in his presser he expects to add a few more depth players today...

and also said a quality penguins player will need to be traded

- YouMeAndDupuis9

This scares the hell out of me...so they'll move more good players we know (and have on the team) for more deadwood. I have zero faith in JR at this point, just figure out who the worst guy is left available and assume 2-3 years extra term and $1-2 million overpay then that's where the team is headed.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
The Devils sign Wayne Simmonds.

1 year, FIVE MILLION!

Put Tanev in a different light?

- jmatchett383

Eh, it's one year, and they have big contacts like Hall due next year they need to save space for.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
Tanev and JJ for a 5th to Ottawa...

Then we go and snag Gardner lol

- Guile

Sold!
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:32 PM ET
Hell, Caps just signed Panik for $2.75M. Does GMJR even look at comparables or does he just pull numbers out of his @$$?????????
- pier6687


they also signed Hathaway to 1.5 mil.

Panik + Hathaway = 4.25 mil/yr

vs.

Connolly = 3.25 mil/yr + 1 mil in cap space for depth.

Weird moves, all in all for the Caps.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
I would still like to see Hornqvist traded before the contract gets worst and get Ferland
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
Wow. I was kinda wondering if the bi tching was ever going to end lol. So I’ve been sharing Micah’s charts now for a couple months. You want to see positives in the o zone and negatives in the D zone and the penalty differentials are relatives. So what does it mean? He’s a defensive forward who’s not providing a ton of offense and he draws wayyyy more penalties than he takes. What could possibly explain Tanev’s numbers? He’s a run and gun type forward who punishes his opponents with huge hits. He’s not separating his man from the puck, he’s trying to put his man through the boards. The puck is entirely secondary. What this does lead to though is turnovers from the opposition which doesn’t go towards his stat sheet aside from +/-

I went to see family in WPG last year and my uncle took me to the Bolts game. It was great. Jets won in OT. Tanev is incredibly noticeable in a positive light. Fans will love him for his tenacity and he’s going to give us a lot more PP opportunities. Our powerplay scores. Indirectly he is going to provide offensive opportunities

As far as who was interested in Tanev/JJ. It appeared to be common knowledge. Who was interested in Tanev? I mean, there was a lot of interest in him at the deadline so I imagine there would’ve been in free agency *for the right price* but hey, semantics
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
We overpaid a guy by like a million and 3 years to many. Add that to the overpay for Jack Johnson and trading for Gudbranson who is also over paid. You look at a singular move by GMJR and say no big deal we overpaid by a mill. But when you look at the long game these overpays are keeping the roster from being upgraded in a meaningful way.
- PittsPens


You're one of those guys then....

Guentzel Crosby 9 million
Kessel Malkin 900k
900k 900k 900k
900k 900k 900k

Letang Dumo
Gardiner 900k
900k 900k

Murray
900k

Thats about 75 million

Every team has a bad contract, ever team has an overpaid guy or 2. This doesn't make us any less competitive than any other team

Just because you don't recognize the name, doesn't mean you have any idea what he brings to the table

Too many guys wanting to build rosters like fantasy teams instead of hockey teams
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
I would still like to see Hornqvist traded before the contract gets worst and get Ferland
- YouMeAndDupuis9

How bout we trade Hornqvist and for once not squander the cap savings on a guy like Ferland?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
I would still like to see Hornqvist traded before the contract gets worst and get Ferland
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I think you'd be saying the same about Ferland in 3 years.

Guarantee the Flyers get Ferland for 5 years now.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 1 @ 2:37 PM ET
How bout we trade Hornqvist and for once not squander the cap savings on a guy like Ferland?
- Victoro311


Need D now
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
Need D now
- Doogs


GMJR loves the current D, why change things?
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