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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 8:53 AM ET
as long as they don't meet boston in the first round
- Michael Pachla



At this rate, they may be more afraid of Montreal if they get Duchene or Aho.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 1 @ 8:56 AM ET
Burn, burn, burn, in a ring of fire.

In a ring of fire.

- thatsapickle


Too much Mighty Taco?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 1 @ 8:57 AM ET
I watched someone today argue Rodrigues is better than Stone.

They would rather have ERod than Stone.

This is why the Sabres are bad.

- ImThatGuy


I need prove of this

Lol
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 1 @ 8:57 AM ET
Is he really better than Ennis at this point?

It's close

- jcragcrumple



I don't know, but the difference between the two of them is nowhere near enough to make a big difference in the win column.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 1 @ 8:58 AM ET
Spezza is done. He is a 4th liner at this point and is slowing quickly.

25 points the last two years.

- ImThatGuy


Good on faceoffs though and D
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 1 @ 8:58 AM ET
I need prove of this

Lol

- gerbe75pts

https://twitter.com/ntrid.../1145377889485037568?s=21
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:00 AM ET
Good on faceoffs though and D
- gerbe75pts


He used to be.

He is not anymore.

Spezza was always behind and could never keep up in Dallas the last two years.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:01 AM ET
Drei punkte
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:01 AM ET
Greg McKegg spotted at the Amtrak station downtown
- jcragcrumple



All Hail!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 1 @ 9:02 AM ET
I don't know, but the difference between the two of them is nowhere near enough to make a big difference in the win column.
- buffalofan19

leafs need to luck out and get a few d men on the cheap or it may be a long year


you lose hainsley and gardiner

IMO ceci is worse then zaitsev, and for those wanting to dog me on this, all 3 nhl talk guys said the same thing on the radio yesterday


you give away brown in that deal

future first rd pick given away


it's all coming up milhouse

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 1 @ 9:05 AM ET
leafs need to luck out and get a few d men on the cheap or it may be a long year


you lose hainsley and gardiner

IMO ceci is worse then zaitsev, and for those wanting to dog me on this, all 3 nhl talk guys said the same thing on the radio yesterday


you give away brown in that deal

future first rd pick given away


it's all coming up milhouse


- homiedclown


Toronto peaked in high school
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:08 AM ET
my ideal in that scenario:

skinner-Eichel-Johansson
Olofsson-huberdeau-reinhart
e-rod-mitts-Okposo
lazar-boyle-whomever




edit: actually 3 fa signings, but who's counting?

- Michael Pachla


Oh boy Pachs..

Hubs not a C!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:08 AM ET
I watched someone today argue Rodrigues is better than Stone.

They would rather have ERod than Stone.

This is why the Sabres are bad.

- ImThatGuy


I must know the culprit. I want to smother myself in that argument.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:09 AM ET
No, it's just a poopty opinion

We're bad because the rest of the bottom 6 make Erod look like Stone

- jcragcrumple


Well put
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:13 AM ET
And I expect absolute silence from the Sabres on this Free Agency Day...
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 1 @ 9:14 AM ET
And I expect absolute silence from the Sabres on this Free Agency Day...
- rapperray


I expect the same. Pretty quiet. Minor deals etc.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:15 AM ET
probably got that idea from wgr
- Michael Pachla


I must be behind the times, but Jeremy is becoming more unlistenable by the day. The afternoon show is pure trash. It's better when Bulldog is there without Schopp, but.. for (frank) sakes, if you ever find yourself listening, take note of all the non-buffalo sports poop they talk about. All their poopty drafts. All their poopty bantering about (frank)all. It's insufferable.

I'm also getting tired of the super analytical wannabes on twitter. They see one chart that shows a player is 'good' and they fix unto it log a rabid dog to meat or a gerbe to caufield. Like, no context whatsoever, this chart shows he's good which means Botts is an idiot if he doesn't acquire him. No context, no knowledge, just, this bar is blue so he's an elite defenseman.

(frank) the (frank) off.


I like listening to River and Petey and Tasker and Murph. They might say some dumb poop sometimes, but they stay on topic, their discussion is almost always team Buffalo team specific, and they almost always find interesting poop to at least banter about.

I'm done shaking my (frank)ing fist.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:15 AM ET
And I expect absolute silence from the Sabres on this Free Agency Day...
- rapperray



That's not necessarily a bad thing. Gerbe overstates it a bit, but there are more teams that make mistakes with signings on July 1 than ones that don't.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:19 AM ET
I must be behind the times, but Jeremy is becoming more unlistenable by the day. The afternoon show is pure trash. It's better when Bulldog is there without Schopp, but.. for (frank) sakes, if you ever find yourself listening, take note of all the non-buffalo sports poop they talk about. All their poopty drafts. All their poopty bantering about (frank)all. It's insufferable.

I'm also getting tired of the super analytical wannabes on twitter. They see one chart that shows a player is 'good' and they fix unto it log a rabid dog to meat or a gerbe to caufield. Like, no context whatsoever, this chart shows he's good which means Botts is an idiot if he doesn't acquire him. No context, no knowledge, just, this bar is blue so he's an elite defenseman.

(frank) the (frank) off.


I like listening to River and Petey and Tasker and Murph. They might say some dumb poop sometimes, but they stay on topic, their discussion is almost always team Buffalo team specific, and they almost always find interesting poop to at least banter about.

I'm done shaking my (frank)ing fist.

- TheSabresTaco


His and Schopp's soapbox rants about how "dumb" GM's are for not using offer sheets are tiresome. They conveniently miss the fact that, in order to be successful on an offersheet, you not only need to give up major compensation (let's use the four firsts for a Point or Marner as an example), but you also have to offer them more than they're worth. Otherwise, the team with his rights are going to match. You need to offer enough to make it hurt. And if it hurts them, it hurts you.

I remember Schopp had someone on his radio show (I think it was Kevin Allen of USA Today, but I could be wrong), and he succinctly made this very point. Schopp just glossed over it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:20 AM ET
https://twitter.com/ntrider825/status/1145377889485037568?s=21
- ImThatGuy


I spent a little time calling him out on that yesterday. Kevin's a guy who thinks he knows more about analytics than he actually does. However, to provide context, that discussion is about either having control over a cost controlled bottom 6 RFA over a 1 year UFA winger who, he believes, we wouldn't re-sign.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 1 @ 9:20 AM ET
And I expect absolute silence from the Sabres on this Free Agency Day...
- rapperray


Some of these contracts are ridiculous, while others we can’t control.

Panarin - ridiculous
Duchene - wanted to sign in Nashville no matter what.

I rather botts be patient and make good signings.

Or even a trade works too. A good 2C for the “old” contracts that aren’t paying insane money. I think that would be a huge win.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:22 AM ET
I spent a little time calling him out on that yesterday. Kevin's a guy who thinks he knows more about analytics than he actually does. However, to provide context, that discussion is about either having control over a cost controlled bottom 6 RFA over a 1 year UFA winger who, he believes, we wouldn't re-sign.
- TheSabresTaco



The most ridiculous thing about that argument is that it isn't even close to an "either/or" scenario.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:22 AM ET
I watched someone today argue Rodrigues is better than Stone.

They would rather have ERod than Stone.

This is why the Sabres are bad.

- ImThatGuy



Unless it was Botterill making that argument, that ISN'T why the Sabres are bad
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:24 AM ET
His and Schopp's soapbox rants about how "dumb" GM's are for not using offer sheets are tiresome. They conveniently miss the fact that, in order to be successful on an offersheet, you not only need to give up major compensation (let's use the four firsts for a Point or Marner as an example), but you also have to offer them more than they're worth. Otherwise, the team with his rights are going to match. You need to offer enough to make it hurt. And if it hurts them, it hurts you.

I remember Schopp had someone on his radio show (I think it was Kevin Allen of USA Today, but I could be wrong), and he succinctly made this very point. Schopp just glossed over it.

- buffalofan19


"Well, I still think there should be offer sheets, these gentlemen's agreements need to go"

Yeah this is a convenient point that is never, ever brought up by the both of them. If an offer sheet is successful, you vastly overpaid/for the asset.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:24 AM ET

Was this somebody a person named Jason Botterill?
If not, brush it off as it has nothing to do with who is on the Sabres.
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