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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 1 @ 2:21 PM ET
Interesting Dzingel is still out there
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:22 PM ET
Interesting Dzingel is still out there
- NorthNuck

Come on JB get rid of Baertschi and get Dzingel.

Van has now has very little cap space.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
Come on JB get rid of Baertschi and get Dzingel.

Van has now has very little cap space.

- manvanfan

We need to dump Sutter
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
The Canucks have been getting more competitive every year for the past couple of years. Benning has added a couple pieces to help keep on that track.
- manvanfan


Like Vantel said.

The defense just got bigger, more physical and better offensively. Miller added up front. More growth from the youth on the roster.

Even if you don’t like the deals, these are clear upgrades.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
Come on JB get rid of Baertschi and get Dzingel.

Van has now has very little cap space.

- manvanfan

classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:24 PM ET


Timo Meier's agent is sneaky fellow.

That year 4 money is insanely smart.
He can play hardball, and the qualifying offer has to be $10 million.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
I visualize the pool scene from Cocoon


- VanHockeyGuy


I still picture this
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
Like Vantel said.

The defense just got bigger, more physical and better offensively. Miller added up front. More growth from the youth on the roster.

Even if you don’t like the deals, these are clear upgrades.

- Nucker101

Yes but I believe the deals are only marginal improvements and we could have got the same bang for less.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
Only the negative sadists

“Do nothing and we’ll get better”


- Nucker101

Aka tankists
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:26 PM ET
Aka tankists
- Nighthawk

The real improvement in the team will come from the young players getting better...
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Jul 1 @ 2:28 PM ET
I’m expecting playoffs. Look at the rest of this division. Almost everyone is getting worse/older
- Nucker101


They are clearly better on D, with the additions Myers, Benn, Fantenberg (and Hughes!) and the subtraction of Hutton, Polliout, Del Zotto, Schenn, etc.

That might be just enough for them to challenge for a playoff spot, though I think they are years away from really contending.

I don’t hate the FA signings as much as giving up the first round pick as part of the trade for Miller...almost want to give props to JB for not messing up


Now to jettison some dead (cap) weight...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:30 PM ET

I still picture this

- Shuswap Wap


I can still do Jackknifes off the diving boards .


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
Like Vantel said.

The defense just got bigger, more physical and better offensively. Miller added up front. More growth from the youth on the roster.

Even if you don’t like the deals, these are clear upgrades.

- Nucker101

Yup. I think they added about 25 goals and about 15 goals against less. Which would put them 245 Mid table and 230 which is top 10 for the good.

That's close to the Blues from last season. 244 - 220
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
Maybe TG is cut from the same cloth as JB and is just ahead of his time and soon enough we will all catch up to what they are..... Generational.
- manvanfan

😂😂
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
The real improvement in the team will come from the young players getting better...
- kaptaan


Bingo.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:32 PM ET
Yes but I believe the deals are only marginal improvements and we could have got the same bang for less.
- kaptaan



Yes marginal.

Puck retrieval , toughness , and net presence from Miller will only slightly improve Svens 50 games at home in the dark room.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
Like Vantel said.

The defense just got bigger, more physical and better offensively. Miller added up front. More growth from the youth on the roster.

Even if you don’t like the deals, these are clear upgrades.

- Nucker101


we can always differ on structure, but it would be a hard argument to say the bolded above is wrong.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yup. I think they added about 25 goals and about 15 goals against less. Which would put them 245 Mid table and 230 which is top 10 for the good.

That's close to the Blues from last season. 244 - 220

- manvanfan



You think vancouver went from a Goal differential of

18/19 = -29
19/20 = +15

doubt it.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
1st hour of ufa and jb signs 3 D. He promised a retooled D and has delivered. Good job
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
You think vancouver went from a Goal differential of

18/19 = -29
19/20 = +15

doubt it.

- classic321


What do you predict?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:36 PM ET
Yes marginal Puck retrieval , toughness , and Net pressence from Miller will only slightly improve Svens 50 games at home in the dark room.
- VANTEL


I think this is the problem. The benchmark for improvement is so low that any move by JB practically guarantees improvement over the roster we had last season.

We’ve hit an all time low for Canuck fan expectations
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:37 PM ET
You think vancouver went from a Goal differential of

18/19 = -29
19/20 = +15

doubt it.

- classic321

They were -62 the season before.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
I think this is the problem. The benchmark for improvement is so low that any move by JB practically guarantees improvement over the roster we had last season.

We’ve hit an all time low for Canuck fan expectations

- bloatedmosquito


I think you are still looking at the old benchmarks where the improvement was replacing Sven with Granlund when he was injured.

I hear this Miller guy can actually play.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:39 PM ET
What do you predict?
- Nighthawk


Classic forgets how many one goal games there was last year.

Canucks lost 24 games last year by one goal.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
They were -62 the season before.
- manvanfan


No they werent


16/17= -61
17/18= -46
18/19= -29

A change in season of roughly +45 is beyond optimistic
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