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grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 5:10 PM ET
I would love to get Risto out of Buffalo.
- TheUltimateJet


Risto? -41 last year, wasn't that the worst in NHL? Not foe me!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 29 @ 5:13 PM ET
I would love to get Risto out of Buffalo.
- TheUltimateJet

Why? He is not good
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 29 @ 5:25 PM ET
Why? He is not good
- Ross77

He is Finnish. When Fins play together, they play great.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Jun 29 @ 5:33 PM ET
Stanley isn’t ready, Niku will be 10 minutes per night under Maurice, and Poolman will start out in the press box. Maurice for the win.
- Rexypoo

And the Jets for the loss.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 29 @ 5:42 PM ET
And the Jets for the loss.
- islansjet

I am hoping that the Jets also get Vatanen. Imagine pairings of Niku-Ristoalianen and Heinola-Vatanen. We could call them the Finnish Four!
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:45 PM ET
Did I hear Risto?

Ok then. Who ya offering up for a tough as hell, 24 year old RhD that skates like the wi d, QB's a PL and scores 42 pts on one of the worst teams in the league?
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jun 29 @ 7:24 PM ET
Safest place to stand the league will be in front of Jets net. Trouba gone, Chariot and Myers will be gone and Tanev will get overpaid even though I love the guy.

Soft will not describe how we play , maybe pillowy or plush?

Lots can happen in the next 3 months but every team in the division is improving or champs!

Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:30 PM ET
Did I hear Risto?

Ok then. Who ya offering up for a tough as hell, 24 year old RhD that skates like the wi d, QB's a PL and scores 42 pts on one of the worst teams in the league?

- IonSabres

We will give you a 4th and you also retain 50% of his contract. 😄
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 29 @ 8:05 PM ET
Did I hear Risto?

Ok then. Who ya offering up for a tough as hell, 24 year old RhD that skates like the wi d, QB's a PL and scores 42 pts on one of the worst teams in the league?

- IonSabres


To BUF: Nikolai Ehlers, Adam Lowry

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt, Rasmus Ristolainen, 2020 second round pick
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 29 @ 8:45 PM ET
To BUF: Nikolai Ehlers, Adam Lowry

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt, Rasmus Ristolainen, 2020 second round pick

- TheUltimateJet


Never Ristolainen. He’s literally just Myers again. Same age and cap hit as at the time of the Kane deal, for a bottom pairing, PP only dman who can’t defend
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 8:49 PM ET
To BUF: Nikolai Ehlers, Adam Lowry

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt, Rasmus Ristolainen, 2020 second round pick

- TheUltimateJet



Hee, hee, hee.
That was a good one.
60 pts for 110 and a 2nd.

Risto for Laini, Ehlers, Connor, and 4 1st
Lol.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:51 PM ET
To BUF: Nikolai Ehlers, Adam Lowry

To WPG: Sam Reinhardt, Rasmus Ristolainen, 2020 second round pick

- TheUltimateJet



IF Florida signs both Bob and Panarin can see a trading partner for the Jets.

Some combination for M. Matheson and V. Trocheck. Panthers will want to shed salary.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 29 @ 9:38 PM ET
Hee, hee, hee.
That was a good one.
60 pts for 110 and a 2nd.

Risto for Laini, Ehlers, Connor, and 4 1st
Lol.

- IonSabres

Good point!

To BUF: Patrick Laine, Nikolai Ehler, Adam Lowry, 2020 first round pick

To WPG: Jack Eichel, Rasmus Ristolainen
foxbat
Joined: 06.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 10:16 PM ET
Pete, apologies for not being able to quote your response/question.

The team still needs to dump salary lol, not sure why this is so surprising?

But, here are the details that you requested:

A hockey roster consists of 23 signed players (12FW, 6D, 2G & 3 Press Box). According to Capfriendly, the Jets currently only have 14 players signed (7FW, 5D & 2G) with 23.9mil remaining in Cap space.

Laine, Connor & Copp = 19-20mil (this could be more)
2 Remaining FW = 2mil
Pionk = 3mil
3 Press Box = 3mil

Total to complete roster = 27-28mil which means we are 3-4mil over the Cap, therefore we need to dump a 4-5mil salary & replace that salary with a 1mil player. I did not include any sort of performance bonuses, which would have to be accounted for as well.

Hope that helps.


Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 29 @ 10:34 PM ET
Pete, apologies for not being able to quote your response/question.

The team still needs to dump salary lol, not sure why this is so surprising?

But, here are the details that you requested:

A hockey roster consists of 23 signed players (12FW, 6D, 2G & 3 Press Box). According to Capfriendly, the Jets currently only have 14 players signed (7FW, 5D & 2G) with 23.9mil remaining in Cap space.

Laine, Connor & Copp = 19-20mil (this could be more)
2 Remaining FW = 2mil
Pionk = 3mil
3 Press Box = 3mil

Total to complete roster = 27-28mil which means we are 3-4mil over the Cap, therefore we need to dump a 4-5mil salary & replace that salary with a 1mil player. I did not include any sort of performance bonuses, which would have to be accounted for as well.

Hope that helps.

- foxbat


Pionk at 3 is a disaster. The guy is a 7D. QO or trade him
foxbat
Joined: 06.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 10:40 PM ET
Pionk at 3 is a disaster. The guy is a 7D. QO or trade him
- Rexypoo


100% agree, it’s gonna be a rough season. I hope we don’t give him more than 1.5, but I don’t trust Chevy in situations like this. He traded for him & he will now overpay him.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 11:51 PM ET
Pete, apologies for not being able to quote your response/question.

The team still needs to dump salary lol, not sure why this is so surprising?

But, here are the details that you requested:

A hockey roster consists of 23 signed players (12FW, 6D, 2G & 3 Press Box). According to Capfriendly, the Jets currently only have 14 players signed (7FW, 5D & 2G) with 23.9mil remaining in Cap space.

Laine, Connor & Copp = 19-20mil (this could be more)
2 Remaining FW = 2mil
Pionk = 3mil
3 Press Box = 3mil

Total to complete roster = 27-28mil which means we are 3-4mil over the Cap, therefore we need to dump a 4-5mil salary & replace that salary with a 1mil player. I did not include any sort of performance bonuses, which would have to be accounted for as well.

Hope that helps.

- foxbat


Expect Connor, Laine and Copp (if not traded) to come in at $16-$16.5 or there will be offer sheets/holdouts.
Perreault and Kulikov traded in a package deal?
We need to come in around the $75-76M mark to make room for next year's potential RFA's.
But appreciate your speculation.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:38 AM ET
Expect Connor, Laine and Copp (if not traded) to come in at $16-$16.5 or there will be offer sheets/holdouts.
Perreault and Kulikov traded in a package deal?
We need to come in around the $75-76M mark to make room for next year's potential RFA's.
But appreciate your speculation.

- grahamzky

What team out there is going to take Perreault and Kulikov in a package deal? No one wants them at the salaries they are at. Only way they get taken is if a sweetener is added ala Jack Roslovic or a 2020 first rounder. We need to stop this fantasy talk. Only way we get value is by giving value. That is why it makes sense to trade a guy like Adam Lowry while he has some.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:40 AM ET
Pionk at 3 is a disaster. The guy is a 7D. QO or trade him
- Rexypoo

Hey stop complaining about Jacob Trouba and Tyler Myers replacement. You are going to love Pionk and defend him the way you have defended Trouba.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:43 AM ET
Never Ristolainen. He’s literally just Myers again. Same age and cap hit as at the time of the Kane deal, for a bottom pairing, PP only dman who can’t defend
- Rexypoo

Myers is an awesome defensemen. You complain about Laine being with Little. Who has Myers played with? Kulikov? Morrow? The guys has had the worst defensive partners since being here.

Like Laine who plays great with Scheifele, so does Myers with Morrisey.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:48 AM ET
What team out there is going to take Perreault and Kulikov in a package deal? No one wants them at the salaries they are at. Only way they get taken is if a sweetener is added ala Jack Roslovic or a 2020 first rounder. We need to stop this fantasy talk. Only way we get value is by giving value. That is why it makes sense to trade a guy like Adam Lowry while he has some.
- TheUltimateJet


Like I said, a package deal, you add on, or don't you understand? We're not talking a two-player package deal.

Stop the fantasy talk? So, who's the leader on this sight in fantasy talk?

Besides fantasy talk can be fun - and you get different perspectives. Speculation is just as much fun as the real thing. Don't see the Jets trading Lowry but who knows, like you say you have to give value to get.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:32 AM ET
Good point!

To BUF: Patrick Laine, Nikolai Ehler, Adam Lowry, 2020 first round pick

To WPG: Jack Eichel, Rasmus Ristolainen

- TheUltimateJet


Ehlers for your choice of
- Evan Rodriguez + 2021 4th
- Connor Sheary (Sabres retain $1.25m) + 2022 4th

Winnipeg needs to shed about $4m, THAT is your primary asset returned and either of these get you there.
Deal or No Deal.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 30 @ 9:52 AM ET
Ehlers for your choice of
- Evan Rodriguez + 2021 4th
- Connor Sheary (Sabres retain $1.25m) + 2022 4th

Winnipeg needs to shed about $4m, THAT is your primary asset returned and either of these get you there.
Deal or No Deal.

- IonSabres


Not one friggin chance!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 30 @ 10:09 AM ET
Ehlers for your choice of
- Evan Rodriguez + 2021 4th
- Connor Sheary (Sabres retain $1.25m) + 2022 4th

Winnipeg needs to shed about $4m, THAT is your primary asset returned and either of these get you there.
Deal or No Deal.

- IonSabres

You are high
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 30 @ 10:48 AM ET
You are high
- Ross77



How else are they shedding $5m in Cap as projected to be needed?
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