Leafs thread talking about the Canucks.

Can you say "inferiority complex?"

Heck, sign Reimer too if it's $1M and under...easily buried in the A.

Check this out though before you pick Reimer > Sparks - Veillette is generally reliable with stats:

https://twitter.com/JeffV...tatus/1144646282100826112
- Deeps27

You're right. There's no risk under $1m. We can collect ALL the cheap goalies!

To Veillette's model: What was the save percentage on unscreened floaters from the point? Because if Sparks let in one more of those, so help me God . . . uh. Nothing. Serenity now . . .

Heck, sign Reimer too if it's $1M and under...easily buried in the A.

Check this out though before you pick Reimer > Sparks - Veillette is generally reliable with stats:

https://twitter.com/JeffV...tatus/1144646282100826112
- Deeps27

He cherry picked one season (his worst one) on a pretty bad team while ignoring the previous 8 years of solid back-up work.

Yeah, no doubt, at 3.4 million, not a good move. But at 1 million or less, Reimer is a steal.

The Leafs have every right to demand a "prove it" deal. He has had success as a 60 point player previously. His success this year could be a flash in the pan attributed to John Tavares success along with his placement on Marner's line.
Do it for another couple seasons and prove you're a 90 point player moving forward and not a 65 point player who caught lightning in a bottle.

I like Marner and obviously want him signed. I'm fine with the Leafs making him the highest paid winger in the NHL. I understand the Leafs reluctance to just say "pick a number'.
- MrBen

I’m Not saying they don’t have the right. Gotta do what’s right for the org.

I’m saying don’t see why marner takes way less in hopes of getting what he could get lots of places now, in 2 years

The guy has seasons of 61, 69 and 94. And he’s barely 22.

The entire premise of a bridge from the players side is prove it and get even more later. But it’s not like he’s gonna get Connor money in two years if he does it again. (Although someone will at some point in the future )
He’s basically just waiting and risking 2 years to get about the same as he wants now.
If Im marner is say nah unless I really wanna stay a leaf

You're right. There's no risk under $1m. We can collect ALL the cheap goalies!

To Veillette's model: What was the save percentage on unscreened floaters from the point? Because if Sparks let in one more of those, so help me God . . . uh. Nothing. Serenity now . . .
- Monkeypunk

Ladder Match at training camp to crown back-up.

Ladder Match at training camp to crown back-up.
- Deeps27

I was thinking Thunderdome with chainsaws, but your way is probably more legal.

I’m Not saying they don’t have the right. Gotta do what’s right for the org.

I’m saying don’t see why marner takes way less in hopes of getting what he could get lots of places now, in 2 years

The guy has seasons of 61, 69 and 94. And he’s barely 22.

The entire premise of a bridge from the players side is prove it and get even more later. But it’s not like he’s gonna get Connor money in two years if he does it again. (Although someone will at some point in the future )
He’s basically just waiting and risking 2 years to get about the same as he wants now.
If Im marner is say nah unless I really wanna stay a leaf
- HB77

By Connor money do you mean the contract that single-handedly ruined it for all NHL GM's by skipping over the RFA deal completely for no reason other than...I can't even think of a reason why Chiarelli would have done this. There was no reason.

Speaking of owning a home in London,ON...how far into his pitch do you think Kadri is to Perry to come play on his wing for cheap the next couple years? Ideal 3rd line winger now that he's bought out...put him on a load management program.
- Deeps27

I haven't really seen Perry play in years, so I don't really have my own opinion on the guy.

But from what I've read, a lot of people think he's done.

Caveat emptor.

Leafs thread talking about the Canucks.

Can you say "inferiority complex?"
- Symba007

By Connor money do you mean the contract that single-handedly ruined it for all NHL GM's by skipping over the RFA deal completely for no reason other than...I can't even think of a reason why Chiarelli would have done this. There was no reason.
- Deeps27

Other than they were the Edmonton Oilers, it's impossible to sign quality free agents, so if you ever draft a guy who can play hockey, you do everything in your power to lock him in for as long as humanly possible?

He cherry picked one season (his worst one) on a pretty bad team while ignoring the previous 8 years of solid back-up work.

Yeah, no doubt, at 3.4 million, not a good move. But at 1 million or less, Reimer is a steal.
- JohnFergusonJr

Dave Feschuk wold love it - add an inside source from Morweena, MB back to his mix.

I haven't really seen Perry play in years, so I don't really have my own opinion on the guy.

But from what I've read, a lot of people think he's done.

Caveat emptor.
- Atomic Wedgie

For 1 million bucks or less, worth the risk.

Not a 40-50 goal MVP anymore, in that sense, yes, he's done.

But as a 3rd liner who brings sandpaper and experience, I could see him putting in 15-20 and annoying the (frank) out of other teams, especially in the playoffs.

Other than they were the Edmonton Oilers, it's impossible to sign quality free agents, so if you ever draft a guy who can play hockey, you do everything in your power to lock him in for as long as humanly possible?
- Atomic Wedgie

Chiarelli sucks so much.

For 1 million bucks or less, worth the risk.

Not a 40-50 goal MVP anymore, in that sense, yes, he's done.

But as a 3rd liner who brings sandpaper and experience, I could see him putting in 15-20 and annoying the (frank) out of other teams, especially in the playoffs.
- JohnFergusonJr

Well yeah, for $1 million, why the frank not?

Same with Phaneuf.

Hell, I'd take back Marleau at $1 million.

For 1 million bucks or less, worth the risk.

Not a 40-50 goal MVP anymore, in that sense, yes, he's done.

But as a 3rd liner who brings sandpaper and experience, I could see him putting in 15-20 and annoying the (frank) out of other teams, especially in the playoffs.
- JohnFergusonJr

This is my thought process...not big money, and maybe not completely "whole" after the buyout, but a useful engine.

By Connor money do you mean the contract that single-handedly ruined it for all NHL GM's by skipping over the RFA deal completely for no reason other than...I can't even think of a reason why Chiarelli would have done this. There was no reason.
- Deeps27

I guess yeah.
And while I loathe what chiarelli did to the oilers org, and his multitude of egregious errors, I don’t really see that as the case in that scenario.

Connor isn’t someone you play hardball with. Best player in the world and the only reason the oilers arent the worst team in the league. Essentially the entire organization rests on his shoulders.

You ask him what he wants, try and negotiate abit, and then settle on what he wants

For 1 million bucks or less, worth the risk.

Not a 40-50 goal MVP anymore, in that sense, yes, he's done.

But as a 3rd liner who brings sandpaper and experience, I could see him putting in 15-20 and annoying the (frank) out of other teams, especially in the playoffs.
- JohnFergusonJr

he's doing everything in slow motion though...

Well yeah, for $1 million, why the frank not?

Same with Phaneuf.

Hell, I'd take back Marleau at $1 million.
- Atomic Wedgie

Have to disagree with Phaneuf.

That's a distinctly negative signing, even for free.

I’m Not saying they don’t have the right. Gotta do what’s right for the org.

I’m saying don’t see why marner takes way less in hopes of getting what he could get lots of places now, in 2 years

The guy has seasons of 61, 69 and 94. And he’s barely 22.

The entire premise of a bridge from the players side is prove it and get even more later. But it’s not like he’s gonna get Connor money in two years if he does it again. (Although someone will at some point in the future )
He’s basically just waiting and risking 2 years to get about the same as he wants now.
If Im marner is say nah unless I really wanna stay a leaf
- HB77

Way less than what?

he's doing everything in slow motion though...
- 21peter

An off-season of rehab and training will get him back into game shape and better than he was last season.

He's not the fastest skater but he doesn't have to be. He just has to be a demon in the corners and in front of the net.

He'd be valuable in the playoffs when things get rougher.

Have to disagree with Phaneuf.

That's a distinctly negative signing, even for free.
- JohnFergusonJr

Meh.... as a third pairing guy.... maybe?

Dubas "Willy, don't worry about a no-trade clause, you have my word" *crosses finger behind back*

I guess yeah.
And while I loathe what chiarelli did to the oilers org, and his multitude of egregious errors, I don’t really see that as the case in that scenario.

Connor isn’t someone you play hardball with. Best player in the world and the only reason the oilers arent the worst team in the league. Essentially the entire organization rests on his shoulders.

You ask him what he wants, try and negotiate abit, and then settle on what he wants
- HB77

PIT was really lucky to lock up Crosby at 8.7M over 17 years on two different deals...I guess it is largely player driven. I miss the "second deal" in the NHL right now though..."middle class" player is being completely obliterated.

An off-season of rehab and training will get him back into game shape and better than he was last season.

He's not the fastest skater but he doesn't have to be. He just has to be a demon in the corners and in front of the net.

He'd be valuable in the playoffs when things get rougher.
- JohnFergusonJr

most likely!

Way less than what?
- The Law

The 11 he reportedly wants.
The rumoured 8 is that