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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
Well, we are already paying 1.2 to kessel....whats a few millie per.
- Fakepartofme

Penguins' cap hit on Phil is $6.8 million.

Get them to eat $1.8 million.

So we get Phil Kessel on our top line for the next 3 years, and we are essentially only adding $5 million cap hit per year.

I am a franking jeenyuss.

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
Good point. Also, for guys like JT and Marner who have primary residences in Canada - yes they pay more tax but they get paid in USD, so 9.5M USD for Marner is $12.5M CAD;

11M USD for JT is $14.4M CAD so they aren't starving.

- GreasyJungle


Well that's a relief.
GreasyJungle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: East, NS
Joined: 11.29.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
I would say it is more than 5 at this point.

The Johnsson and Kapanen deals were very good.

- Aetherial


Yup and Yup.

Out former 2nd line LW is now making 7M with Philly and our 2nd line C (who was more of a 3C, is making 5M in St Louis).

Uncle Leo is making 3M as a 3rd/4th liner in NY
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
Mitch will need to wear one of these bras over his head and covering his ears so he won't have to listen to all the peeved fans he will maybe screw
- Leafcup

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:58 PM ET
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@bobmckenzieTSN: The Toronto Maple Leafs have acquired Colin Miller and Ryan Reaves in a trade from #VGK for William Nylander.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:58 PM ET

- gergeswillems

Marner accepting the red wings offer sheet?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
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- Arctic_AARDVARK[[BREAKING]]|>

@bobmckenzieTSN: The Toronto Maple Leafs have acquired Colin Miller and Ryan Reaves in a trade from #VGK for William Nylander.

Ty
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:00 PM ET
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- Arctic_AARDVARK[[BREAKING]]|>

@bobmckenzieTSN: The Toronto Maple Leafs have acquired Colin Miller and Ryan Reaves in a trade from #VGK for William Nylander.


The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
Even if you structure the money per year as 90% bonus and 10% salary, it drastically cuts down on the amount of taxes they pay.

I believe....
Im pretty sure thats why JT only get paid a million per year in salary, the rest is bonus.

I think.


- Fakepartofme


Bonus vs. Income

Residency in US vs. Canada ....

All that poop matters but it's above my pay grade.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
Marner accepting the red wings offer sheet?
- Symba007

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:03 PM ET

- Scabeh

Reaves ends Drouin's career admiring the offensive blueline from behind the net dreaming of not playing in his own zone. Habs fans cheer in ecstasy.
GreasyJungle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: East, NS
Joined: 11.29.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:03 PM ET
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- Arctic_AARDVARK[[BREAKING]]|>

@bobmckenzieTSN: The Toronto Maple Leafs have acquired Colin Miller and Ryan Reaves in a trade from #VGK for William Nylander.


Stop it. Ek will think this is true and add it to his rumor chart.

Source: Eklund.


Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:03 PM ET
Bonus vs. Income

Residency in US vs. Canada ....

All that poop matters but it's above my pay grade.

- The Law

Also, athletes pay a different tax bracket.. none of the tax argument make any sense, they all pay the same.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:04 PM ET

- gergeswillems

I'd take the Wings offer sheet all day long The next 2 years are going to be rough.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:04 PM ET
Stop it. Ek will think this is true and add it to his rumor chart.

Source: Eklund.

- GreasyJungle

It’s an AA5...

It’s super serial...
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
I'd take the Wings offer sheet all day long The next 5 years are going to be rough.
- AdamFrench

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:06 PM ET
Reaves ends Drouin's career admiring the offensive blueline from behind the net dreaming of not playing in his own zone. Habs fans cheer in ecstasy.
- AdamFrench


Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:08 PM ET
[quote=gergeswillems]
A lot of the poope deals Holland (frank)ed you guys over with are over the next 2 years, I think Yzerman can help turn it around...unless it really was the Tampa team that did it all (which is possible).
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jun 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
Mike Augello: Is bridging Marner a potential compromise??
- mikeinbuffalo


A+ to Dubas on the Kapanen and Johnsson signings!!!! Quality players currently capable of being top 6 forwards, but signed as 3rd liners. Kap with the RFA status after 3 years is awesome.

I was suprised you had to give up a 1st to rid yourselves of Marleau, but oh well.

Now: package Zaitsev with Brown and 3rd rounder to shed that contract. (+6.6M)
Extend Muzzin (-6.75M)
Trade Nylander (+7M)
Sign Marner (-11.5M)

Then you have about 9M to sign/trade for 3 forwards and 3D (ideally all righty's). A good chunk of that should be dedicated to 1 or 2 high quality RD!!!!

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
Even if you structure the money per year as 90% bonus and 10% salary, it drastically cuts down on the amount of taxes they pay.

I believe....
Im pretty sure thats why JT only get paid a million per year in salary, the rest is bonus.

I think.


- Fakepartofme


I have no idea how they structure their tax. I think they can take all of it up front without being taxed initially, and then find shelters and deductibles and other things to offset the tax rate. I suspect that x% (was it 11?) goes into escrow.

I know when *I* get my poopty bonus which contains considerably fewer digits I'm taxed at around 44% on it.
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:11 PM ET
A 2 year, 8M dollar contract would be great for the Leafs.

Not sure why Marner would be interested in that but they, crazier things have happened.

- Scabeh

Sign him 2 x 8M, then 8 x 12M+ and you're looking at $11.2AAV over 10 years minimum coming of your ELC with a rising cap that won't hamstring your club (more than it already is). #HomeRun #WinWin
lonnyBohonos
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 02.02.2017

Jun 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
I have no idea how they structure their tax. I think they can take all of it up front without being taxed initially, and then find shelters and deductibles and other things to offset the tax rate. I suspect that x% (was it 11?) goes into escrow.

I know when *I* get my poopty bonus which contains considerably fewer digits I'm taxed at around 44% on it.

- Monkeypunk


oh man, reminds me why I stayed in the US after college.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
[quote=AdamFrench]
4 more years of Abdelkader.
3 more years of Nielsen.
2 more years of Helm and Bernier.
1 more year of Howard, Green, Daley, Ericsson
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
A+ to Dubas on the Kapanen and Johnsson signings!!!! Quality players currently capable of being top 6 forwards, but signed as 3rd liners. Kap with the RFA status after 3 years is awesome.

I was suprised you had to give up a 1st to rid yourselves of Marleau, but oh well.

Now: package Zaitsev with Brown and 3rd rounder to shed that contract. (+6.6M)
Extend Muzzin (-6.75M)
Trade Nylander (+7M)
Sign Marner (-11.5M)

Then you have about 9M to sign/trade for 3 forwards and 3D (ideally all righty's). A good chunk of that should be dedicated to 1 or 2 high quality RD!!!!

- bikeguy99


Muzzin at 6.75?

(frank). That. Noise.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:16 PM ET
[quote=gergeswillems]
See. 2 years and most of the poop is gone. Hope

Also what happens when Mantha gets the offer sheet? Nobody mentions him and he can look at Hayes' deal and laugh and want 5+
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