or you could say that giving that contract out made it weird that he developed an allergy to his equipment right when it would really hurt the team
- blueshirts_fan

I was talking Chara

I didn't realize you were so negative, I guess Tom being gone makes it stand out
- jimbro83

I'm not being negative, all I am saying is that instead of trying to get every other team's young players cause they had a good season is look at the broader pic, one guy does not make a team look at his teammates. because they achieved something doesn't mean they can do it again. one guy may be playing really well because of who he is playing with.

One of those pieces was Marian Hossa, a first ballot HOF. Was Hossa a bust for Pitt and the Wings because they lost in the finals with him?
- 2sticks1puck

We had the wrong Hossa.

I'm not being negative, all I am saying is that instead of trying to get every other team's young players cause they had a good season is look at the broader pic, one guy does not make a team look at his teammates. because they achieved something doesn't mean they can do it again. one guy may be playing really well because of who he is playing with.
- blueshirts_fan

I am confused, do you want Panarin or no

I am confused, do you want Panarin or no
- jimbro83

if we get him I will root like hell for him, if not I want to see what we have and make TPC happy and resign Krieder

We had the wrong Hossa.
- Fenrir

Marcel the monkey was better than Marcel the Hossa

or you could say that giving that contract out made it weird that he developed an allergy to his equipment right when it would really hurt the team
- blueshirts_fan

By your own metrics though none of that would matter because they won 3 cups that he was a core piece too. Besides the jersey allergy let Chicago off the hook big time.

Your argument seems to come down to the following: Guy can score 40 goals, but if no cup is won signing is a bust. Guy can score 20 goals, but if they win it was the right move.

I defend Rick Nash more than I should, but criticism in the playoffs is warranted. Saying a guy like Gaborik was a bad signing because we never won the cup despite him producing a ton for us just seems like a really weird hill to die on.

if we get him I will root like hell for him, if not I want to see what we have and make TPC happy and resign Krieder
- blueshirts_fan

I think we pretty much agree, if we fail on Panarin, I don't advocate getting any other UFA and I would be more than happy to sign Kreider to an extension

We had the wrong Hossa.
- Fenrir

Didn't we have the wrong federov too?

Marcel the monkey was better than Marcel the Hossa
- jimbro83

Guy 100% fooled me. Guy was a beast on opening night in 05-06 I though we had a gem on our hands, that was the last memorable thing he ever did.

Marcel the monkey was better than Marcel the Hossa
- jimbro83

So was Marcel Marceau.

Didn't we have the wrong federov too?
- blueshirts_fan

we definitely had the right Lundqvist

Didn't we have the wrong federov too?
- blueshirts_fan

Multiple wrong Ferraros

By your own metrics though none of that would matter because they won 3 cups that he was a core piece too. Besides the jersey allergy let Chicago off the hook big time.

Your argument seems to come down to the following: Guy can score 40 goals, but if no cup is won signing is a bust. Guy can score 20 goals, but if they win it was the right move.

I defend Rick Nash more than I should, but criticism in the playoffs is warranted. Saying a guy like Gaborik was a bad signing because we never won the cup despite him producing a ton for us just seems like a really weird hill to die on.
- 2sticks1puck

I loved having Rick Nash because I felt he could be a great teacher to the next Gen

not saying he is a bust I'm saying if we don't have anything to show for it what's the point?

Multiple wrong Ferraros
- 2sticks1puck

Didn't we have them all?

Didn't we have the wrong federov too?
- blueshirts_fan

Forgot about Fedor, thanks for reminding me.

Didn't we have them all?
- blueshirts_fan

Such high hopes for those guys. Could never make the transition to the NHL.

we definitely had the right Lundqvist
- jimbro83

and we have alternate spellings coming up as well

The only person you have to baby sit is Tom
- Slimtj100

YOU have some pair i will say that .....
throwing someone under your bus
your reference on your avatar
"to being inside someones(Dundees ) wife" MUST BE DOWN ...
that is as inflammatory a statement that cant be overlooked
where's a ref when you need one !
Take that crap down and , so glad theres a real moderator to watch or read the acts
of the participants...

YOU have some pair i will say that .....
throwing someone under your bus
your reference on your avatar
"to being inside someones(Dundees ) wife" MUST BE DOWN ...
that is as inflammatory a statement that cant be overlooked
where's a ref when you need one !
Take that crap down and , so glad theres a real moderator to watch or read the acts
of the participants...
- NASHTYGUY

that was cohesive thought

I'm not being negative, all I am saying is that instead of trying to get every other team's young players cause they had a good season is look at the broader pic, one guy does not make a team look at his teammates. because they achieved something doesn't mean they can do it again. one guy may be playing really well because of who he is playing with.
- blueshirts_fan

So no on an offer sheet to Aho?

That actually drives me crazy with the NFL sometimes. Draft a QB. The QB is a bust. No, we can't draft another QB! The last guy was a bust!
- Pete V

Browns fan??

So no on an offer sheet to Aho?
- WineryDog

why not see what we got instead of trying to take everyone else's new toys

Browns fan??
- Tonybere

they've had what 130 QBs in the last 10 years or so

I loved having Rick Nash because I felt he could be a great teacher to the next Gen

not saying he is a bust I'm saying if we don't have anything to show for it what's the point?
- blueshirts_fan

The point is that if you don't make the signing, you don't even have the failed attempt at the goal.

Pulling out an old Star Trek gem here (yes, big loser, I know):

"It is possible to make no mistakes and still lose."
- Capt. J.L. Picard