you guys are the one's who brought up signing Panarin now affects their ability to sign their own players then, not me
- jimbro83

SOOOOO you're saying we shouldn't sign him

THANK YOU

HOLY (frank) SOMEBODY HELP ME HERE
- jimbro83

Yeah I'm not seeing the connection to signing Panarin now and losing Kakko or Kravtsov in 4 years

I’m not comparing them or saying they’re the next Malkin and Crosby. What I’m saying is those teams had young players and let them grow. We have young players that project to be good, let’s see what we have in them before we go out and sign someone that could potentially cause us to lose one of them in 3 years.
- nyrangers9479

can you please just go to to this site and look at it

please

I beg you

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/rangers

SOOOOO you're saying we shouldn't sign him
- blueshirts_fan

OMFG

OMFG
- jimbro83

You should trade Kakko now so you can re-sign Panarin in 7 years

You should trade Kakko now so you can re-sign Panarin in 7 years
- eichiefs9

I am starting to suspect Tom took over this guy's account

Yeah I'm not seeing the connection to signing Panarin now and losing Kakko or Kravtsov in 4 years
- mdw7413

I got nothing man. If they ever became a level where they are getting 90 pts, it would be your second tier guys that you'd lose. You'd either move heaven and earth to keep Kakko/Kravs or you take the kings ransom from the off sheet/trade. There's no scenario wher eyou lose them for nothing.

They added Hossa to both teams. When Sid and Malkin came in the league, they immediately got guys like Leclair, Recchi, etc. The bolded statement couldn't be further from the truth.
- 2sticks1puck

They won cups with Leclair and Recchi??? Interesting........

OMFG
- jimbro83

Im not sure why you wouldn't want to sign Panarin.. If the only reason is because of the cap situation 2/3 years from now.. thats not good enough for me. Lets worry about it when we get there.

Also, if Kaako and Kratsov turn out to be superstars, the Rangers will find a way to keep them

I got nothing man. If they ever became a level where they are getting 90 pts, it would be your second tier guys that you'd lose. You'd either move heaven and earth to keep Kakko/Kravs or you take the kings ransom from the off sheet/trade. There's no scenario wher eyou lose them for nothing.
- 2sticks1puck

you mean there is no chance Toronto is losing Marner for absolutely nothing?

can you please just go to to this site and look at it

please

I beg you

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/rangers
- jimbro83

Panarin Kakko Kravtsov Trouba combined 40 million. That’s almost half your cap on 4 players, you can’t do that. Again, I’m not saying they will be Mitch Marner and want 12 million coming off their ELC’s, but that seems to be the trend of late.

I am starting to suspect Tom took over this guy's account
- jimbro83

what have I said that I'm down on the team? don't care wither way if we sign him? that we will have to lose players if we do. I want to see what our young players can do, how is this bad?

Im not sure why you wouldn't want to sign Panarin.. If the only reason is because of the cap situation 2/3 years from now.. thats not good enough for me. Lets worry about it when we get there.

Also, if Kaako and Kratsov turn out to be superstars, the Rangers will find a way to keep them
- TrueBlue9182

in 2023, Vegas already has a cap hit of 43 million

we currently have 6 million

I am just not worried

I am starting to suspect Tom took over this guy's account
- jimbro83

Apparently someone that bar-backs at the Surf Lodge in Montauk said Panarin, his GF, and Theofanus were out there with Scott Malkin and Kimber Auerbach (Isles PR Director)

what have I said that I'm down on the team? don't care wither way if we sign him? that we will have to lose players if we do. I want to see what our young players can do, how is this bad?
- blueshirts_fan

you just responded to a point I made "sooooooo, you don't wanna sign him?"

as if you didn't read anything I have said

very Tom like

Panarin Kakko Kravtsov Trouba combined 40 million. That’s almost half your cap on 4 players, you can’t do that. Again, I’m not saying they will be Mitch Marner and want 12 million coming off their ELC’s, but that seems to be the trend of late.
- nyrangers9479

that's half the cap now, not syaing it will raise 30 mil in 5 or 6 years, but you can't say it will be 50% of our cap in the future.

that's half the cap now, not syaing it will raise 30 mil in 5 or 6 years, but you can't say it will be 50% of our cap in the future.
- blueshirts_fan

Or that either rookie is going to get a $10M contract coming right out of their ELC's

you mean there is no chance Toronto is losing Marner for absolutely nothing?
- jimbro83

No one is saying nothing, but you’re not getting a 100 point player in return. Offer sheet Marner and those 4 1sts are around 20. The picks in the 3rd and 4th year are 5-6 years away from playing in the NHL. Year one you lose him for nothing bc u don’t even get a pick until 2020. That pick likely doesn’t play until the earliest the 2021-2022 season. Etc etc for the rest of the picks while whichever team got him is getting 90-100 points for all those years.

Or that either rookie is going to get a $10M contract coming right out of their ELC's
- eichiefs9

Was going to point that out. God I hope they are that good but I'm giving that a 1% chance

Panarin Kakko Kravtsov Trouba combined 40 million. That’s almost half your cap on 4 players, you can’t do that. Again, I’m not saying they will be Mitch Marner and want 12 million coming off their ELC’s, but that seems to be the trend of late.
- nyrangers9479

When is the last time the Rangers have had a guy coming off their rookie deal demand a huge pay day? 2 or 3 players doing it this offseason doesn't single trend to me.

Or that either rookie is going to get a $10M contract coming right out of their ELC's
- eichiefs9

It’s been the trend of late.

Or that either rookie is going to get a $10M contract coming right out of their ELC's
- eichiefs9

true. They could ya know bust

true. They could ya know bust
- blueshirts_fan

I get what's going on here

It’s been the trend of late.
- nyrangers9479

No it hasn't. It's been the trend with young superstars. Marner lead the Leafs in points with 94. Matthews averages over a goal every other game and was over a PPG last year. Rantanen has two consecutive seasons over a PPG. What other RFA's are getting $10M deals right out of the gate?

You are assuming that Kakko and/or Kravstov are going to be as good as those players and I'm telling you that's extremely far from a guarantee. Maybe they do, but to be claiming it now is crazy.

When is the last time the Rangers have had a guy coming off their rookie deal demand a huge pay day? 2 or 3 players doing it this offseason doesn't single trend to me.
- TPC

Off the top of my head, Nylander Marner McDavid Draisaitl, Meier Tkachuk Point don’t want bridge deals either, they all want 8+
Edit: Mathews Rantanen (thanks chiefs)