- TPC

- TPC

I didn't watch a lot of Columbus hockey, honestly last season I spent so much time at my son's hockey games I didn't have a ton of time and with the Rangers sucking I didn't mind missing those games. great but can he do that where ever he goes or will he need talent around him? I'm broadening the scope is it because of one player or the chemistry one player had with others how they saw the ice?
- blueshirts_fan

Panarin spent the majority of last season playing with Pierre Luc Dubois and Cam Atkinson. Both good players, I actually really like Dubois' game, but it's not like he was playing with superstars. There's no reason to think his production would drop much playing with Zib/Buch or Chytil/One of the rookie wingers. The guy has 320 points in 322 games. There's always going to be a concern whether a players stats will transfer from one team to another, but I don't think Panarin is much of a risk in that regard

Panarin spent the majority of last season playing with Pierre Luc Dubois and Cam Atkinson. Both good players, I actually really like Dubois' game, but it's not like he was playing with superstars. There's no reason to think his production would drop much playing with Zib/Buch or Chytil/One of the rookie wingers. The guy has 320 points in 322 games. There's always going to be a concern whether a players stats will transfer from one team to another, but I don't think Panarin is much of a risk in that regard
- SkjeiStadium

and he's right handed shot, perfect to go along with any of Kakko, Kravstov and Chytil, all lefties

and he's right handed shot, perfect to go along with any of Kakko, Kravstov and Chytil, all lefties
- jimbro83

So use Chytil as the center? Panarin is a winger and so are Kakko and Kravstov

So use Chytil as the center? Panarin is a winger and so are Kakko and Kravstov
- blueshirts_fan

yeah, maybe not immediately

I envision all these guys teammates for 7 years, I am sure they'll be lots of line shuffling over the years

There’s no question Panarin makes us better this year, the question is are we ready to compete for a cup in the next year or 2. If you believe we are then you sign him. If you think we’re a few years of growing pains away then you don’t.

There’s no question Panarin makes us better this year, the question is are we ready to compete for a cup in the next year or 2. If you believe we are then you sign him. If you think we’re a few years of growing pains away then you don’t.
- nyrangers9479

I don't agree with this, I think Panarin will be elite for his full 7 years

why wait until Kakko and Kravstov are off their ELC contracts to sign a big time UFA?

There’s no question Panarin makes us better this year, the question is are we ready to compete for a cup in the next year or 2. If you believe we are then you sign him. If you think we’re a few years of growing pains away then you don’t.
- nyrangers9479

If he signs for 7 years and you are projecting the Rangers to be good in 3, I would still do it now and not look back. He will still be in the middle of his prime right as the Rangers are going off

guys, the Rangers have already made the decision to sign Panarin, now the only thing that remains to be seen is if they win the sweepstakes.

saying they should wait until they are a contender is a waste of time, they've made the decision already to go for the guy

guys, the Rangers have already made the decision to sign Panarin, now the only thing that remains to be seen is if they win the sweepstakes.

saying they should wait until they are a contender is a waste of time, they've made the decision already to go for the guy
- jimbro83

Hes coming...hold your butts

Hes coming...hold your butts
- TPC

Who are we getting rid of to accommodate this?

I don't agree with this, I think Panarin will be elite for his full 7 years

why wait until Kakko and Kravstov are off their ELC contracts to sign a big time UFA?
- jimbro83

To build a house you need a full toolbox not just a hammer

To build a house you need a full toolbox not just a hammer
- blueshirts_fan

The thing is tho, we don’t know what they’ll do after if they do sign Panarin. To use your analogy, Panarin would be the foundation of that house you speak of. He’s a legit top line forward, nothing says he wouldn’t be that for us. Then more moves would be coming. I fully expect Kreider or Buch to get traded in a package for a better player (I think they’re done accumulating picks, any trades will be for NHL players). Then that’s your windows. We have oodles of talent in prospects ready to contribute right away too, that’s the basement? Lol. Then you figure which of the deadweight guys would go, that’s the garage (where they gather dust)

This team is ready to rock in October, growing pains will occur for sure but they are in a very good place right now. They need to take the next step as this rebuild is just about over imo

Elliotte Friedman stated earlier today on NHL Network that "the Isles are very much in the hunt for Panarin, and don't count them out on Bobrovsky as well, even though most people feel that both will become Panthers."
He added that Pavelski is also meeting with Tampa, after having visited with Dallas.

Otherwise, there are many teams interested in signing pending F.A. Anders Lee, including Chicago, since word is they were heavily interested in bringing back originally drafted, Kevin Hayes, had the Flyers not been able to sign him.

But the team that will be most active in trades sooner than later will be Vegas, after their recent extending of William Karlsson long term. Despite their trade yesterday of Erik Haula to the Canes (for $2.275 in cap relief), the Knights are currently around $5M or so over the cap ceiling, with the need still to sign a backup goalie to fill just one necessary roster hole, due to Malcolm Subban being currently a pending RFA. Among those in chief rumored to be possibly dealt by them for cap relief purposes include:

C- Cody Eakin (1 year left @ $3.85M)
RW- Ryan Reaves (1 year left @ $2.775M)
RW- David Clarkson (1 year left @ $5.25M)
D- Colin Miller (3 years left @ $3.875M)
D- Nick Holden (1 year left @ $2.2M)
D- Jon Merrill (1 year left @ $1.375M)

I could see Vegas parting primarily very soon with both Eakin and Miller. Despite teams allowed to be 10% over the cap until next season's start, they immediately need to acquire or sign as a free agent an experienced reliable backup goalie, if not able to rely on one to do the job from their minor league system should Subban sign elsewhere.

To build a house you need a full toolbox not just a hammer
- blueshirts_fan

A hammer is an important tool to build a house though, so this is a bad analogy

Elliotte Friedman stated earlier today on NHL Network that "the Isles are very much in the hunt for Panarin, and don't count them out on Bobrovsky as well, even though most people feel that both will become Panthers."
He added that Pavelski is also meeting with Tampa, after having visited with Dallas.

Otherwise, there are many teams interested in signing pending F.A. Anders Lee, including Chicago, since word is they were heavily interested in bringing back originally drafted, Kevin Hayes, had the Flyers not been able to sign him.

But the team that will be most active in trades sooner than later will be Vegas, after their recent extending of William Karlsson long term. Despite their trade yesterday of Erik Haula to the Canes (for $2.275 in cap relief), the Knights are currently around $5M or so over the cap ceiling, with the need still to sign a backup goalie to fill just one necessary roster hole. Among those in chief rumored to be possibly dealt by them for cap relief purposes include:

C- Cody Eakin (1 year left @ $3.85M)
RW- Ryan Reaves (1 year left @ $2.775M)
RW- David Clarkson (1 year left @ $5.25M)
D- Colin Miller (3 years left @ $3.875M)
D- Nick Holden (1 year left @ $2.2M)
D- Jon Merrill (1 year left @ $1.375M)

I could see Vegas parting primarily very soon with both Eakin and Miller. Despite teams allowed to be 10% over the cap until next season's start, they immediately need to acquire or sign as a free agent an experienced reliable backup goalie, if not able to rely on one to do the job from their minor league system.
- RangerSaver

I forget where I heard it, but they said Vegas may have to deal away Gusev. I’d inquire about him, as he seems to be a lot like Panarins trajectory. Hard to evaluate a player like him tho, in what you’d give up to get him. They had the chance to dress him if they beat SJ, but didn’t get that chance obviously

A hammer is an important tool to build a house though, so this is a bad analogy
- Bean_Dip

I’d say Panarin could be, at worst, the sheet rock

If he signs for 7 years and you are projecting the Rangers to be good in 3, I would still do it now and not look back. He will still be in the middle of his prime right as the Rangers are going off
- TPC

That’s about right regarding the timing. But, does Paranin see it that way, will he be ok, waiting 3 years for the club to become contenders.

With respect to who he would play with here, he knows he’s plays with Barkov in Florida, a true established #1 center. Then there’s the matter of financial upside of signing in Florida, although I don’t think that’s a deal breaker.

That’s about right regarding the timing. But, does Paranin see it that way, will he be ok, waiting 3 years for the club to become contenders.

With respect to who he would play with here, he knows he’s plays with Barkov in Florida, a true established #1 center. Then there’s the matter of financial upside of signing in Florida, although I don’t think that’s a deal breaker.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

I think it’s pretty obvious the first line is Kakko-Zib-Panarin. That’s a loaded line

I understand Kakko is a RW, but he’s shoots LH. I’d think he could adjust, or Panarin could play the left side of need be. Bottom line tho, that needs to be a line

I tell ya tho, it would be a hard and painful kick in the nads if the Isles got Panarin

I think it’s pretty obvious the first line is Kakko-Zib-Panarin. That’s a loaded line

I understand Kakko is a RW, but he’s shoots LH. I’d think he could adjust, or Panarin could play the left side of need be. Bottom line tho, that needs to be a line
- Slimtj100

Not sure Quinn is anywhere near ready to anoint Kakko 1st line minutes. I feel thats the issue, there are so many unknowns with this group of youngsters, making line combinations is a lot to assume. If on July 1st, Paranin can careless about who he plays with, how long it will take for the club to contend, and wants to be a Ranger, I have no doubt, he’ll be a Ranger.

I forget where I heard it, but they said Vegas may have to deal away Gusev. I’d inquire about him, as he seems to be a lot like Panarins trajectory. Hard to evaluate a player like him tho, in what you’d give up to get him. They had the chance to dress him if they beat SJ, but didn’t get that chance obviously
- Slimtj100

I would also be interested in Gusev if the Knights either trade him within the next few days, or simply let him go as an RFA (not likely). But for now, their immediate need is to create cap space on their pro roster to first fit in a backup goalie should Subban sign elsewhere. So I feel they will be looking to make trades as they did yesterday, in dealing Haula in effect, for a salary dump return from the Canes. That trade had attached conditions on the 2021 Conditional 5th Round pick they also received, due to Haula suffering that upper body injury last season when he was removed off the ice on a stretcher.

Not sure Quinn is anywhere near ready to anoint Kakko 1st line minutes. I feel thats the issue, there are so many unknowns with this group of youngsters, making line combinations is a lot to assume. If on July 1st, Paranin can careless about who he plays with, how long it will take for the club to contend, and wants to be a Ranger, I have no doubt, he’ll be a Ranger.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

I mean do you want him playing with lesser player tho? I think you play him with the best players our best two forwards by a country mile would be Zib and Panarin

I don't agree with this, I think Panarin will be elite for his full 7 years

why wait until Kakko and Kravstov are off their ELC contracts to sign a big time UFA?
- jimbro83

The history of the NHL tells you very few guys remain elite over 30, even more so in today’s NHL. I think he will do better than most bc he only has the 4 years in the NHL but to say at 35 he’s going to be the same player he was at 28 is asinine.