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Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 26 @ 6:19 PM ET
Only thing is, marner is a 90 plus pt player who makes others around him better.
- Fakepartofme



Except his dad and agent
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:20 PM ET
Sorry, but if Aho and Rantanen want 9.5 why is Mitch asking for Matthews' contract?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 6:20 PM ET
Not sure which is better - paying a good salary for a talented player or paying
$3.033 Million a year for three years for a player that doesn't play any more and might provide an ocassional stench, but not much else?

- winsix

Anyone can pick a comparison
Cap crunched & not Cap crunched
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 6:21 PM ET
Signing Myers to a 7x7 is problematic.
- ClarksonDavid

He signed where?
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 26 @ 6:21 PM ET
Had 800k retained so an added 2.2m
- Nighthawk



Beagle, Roussel, Sutter, Pearson, Eriksson, soon to be Myers.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 26 @ 6:21 PM ET
Sorry, but if Aho and Rantanen want 9.5 why is Mitch asking for Matthews' contract?
- RogerRoeper



Mitch is a greedy, me-first person.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 6:22 PM ET
Having awesome players is not problematic. Signing Marner is not problematic.

The cap issue for the Leafs is that they have way too many good young wingers so they are spending too much of their cap on forwards to be able to afford four high quality defensemen for their top 4.. They need to make trades to be able to afford at least one very good Top 4 D(preferably top pairing).

Trading Nylander directly for a good, youngish RHD would be ideal. Maybe not possible. Maybe it's a series of two or three separate trades.

- Njuice

In the end correct. Too much allocated to F’s.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 26 @ 6:22 PM ET
Mitch's female doge$ (papa Paul Marner & Darren Ferris) will mess things up real bad for the Leafs on what they need to do to this off season to improve the team.

If i am Dubas i set a deadline with the female doge$ and if no deal is signed then trade him asap, i am sick of all this $hit, it's dejavu of Nylander all over again....

- bluestar

Willie's father was bad enough, but this Paulie Walnuts type daddy sounds f'n bonkers...
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ,all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:24 PM ET
Okay, I love Marner, but we need to be much more competitive then we have been for...well most of my 40+ years of life! What are we lacking most? RH D-men and grit. Why not trade Marner to someone like Minnesota for a package that include Zucker and Dumba. Zucker fills the winger spot left behind, but could drop to 2nd or 3rd line to balance the lines better. Dumba is only 24 and has 4 years left at a healthy 4mill. I'm sure the teams would want some picks or prospects to balance it more, but Minnesota gets an offensive play driver which they need badly and the Leafs get some grit and a very solid RD to fill that huge void.
- butch055



We would regret moving him for a long time. Marner is on his way to becoming an elite player in this league. You don’t move him to plug holes and acquire grit.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jun 26 @ 6:24 PM ET
Sorry, but if Aho and Rantanen want 9.5 why is Mitch asking for Matthews' contract?
- RogerRoeper


That's a big 'if'. I don't think Rantanen is signing 9.5 for 8 years either. Maybe 5, but certainly not 8.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 26 @ 6:25 PM ET
Mitch is a greedy, me-first person.
- Steven_Seagull

He watched Nylander avoid every corner he’s ever met and probably thinks he’s worth double. 🕺🏻

Go Team Marner

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:25 PM ET
That's a big 'if'. I don't think Rantanen is signing 9.5 for 8 years either. Maybe 5, but certainly not 8.
- aminnes


Yeah but even 9.5 for 5, Mitch will want much more.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 6:26 PM ET
Beagle, Roussel, Sutter, Pearson, Eriksson, soon to be Myers.
- Steven_Seagull

Not the greatest signings but still are not in the way for the short term.

Myers is a bum
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jun 26 @ 6:26 PM ET
We would regret moving him for a long time. Marner is on his way to becoming an elite player in this league. You don’t move him to plug holes and acquire grit.
- Canada Cup


Agreed. 22 years old. 94 points, and one off the league lead in primary assists just below a 26 year old in his prime. The same guys saying trade Marner are saying keep Nylander. WFT! lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 6:26 PM ET
Mitch is a greedy, me-first person.
- Steven_Seagull

He learned it well from a couple 3 others.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:27 PM ET
Agreed. 22 years old. 94 points, and one off the league lead in primary assists just below a 26 year old in his prime. The same guys saying trade Marner are saying keep Nylander. WFT! lol
- aminnes


I say keep both.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 26 @ 6:28 PM ET
He watched Nylander avoid every corner he’s ever met and probably thinks he’s worth double. 🕺🏻

Go Team Marner

- Garnie



The only corner Marner’s working is the one where he sells his wussy for Daddy.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jun 26 @ 6:28 PM ET
Yeah but even 9.5 for 5, Mitch will want much more.
- RogerRoeper


If the reports are are true, Leafs offered 10x8. The issue wasn't dollar but term at that level. Have to think he would accept a little over 10 at around 6 years. If they want him for 8 it will likely take 11+. At least he's not demanding 11+ for 5. And again, Rantenan taking 9.5 for 8 years is unlikely, but we will see I guess.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jun 26 @ 6:29 PM ET
I say keep both.
- RogerRoeper


They have to make moves to get defensive help. If it's a choice bye bye Bill Nye.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 6:30 PM ET
Agreed. 22 years old. 94 points, and one off the league lead in primary assists just below a 26 year old in his prime. The same guys saying trade Marner are saying keep Nylander. WFT! lol
- aminnes

Marner is nearly Kane 2.0

Todays market i peg him at $10m
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jun 26 @ 6:30 PM ET
Marner is nearly Kane 2.0

Todays market i peg him at $10m

- Nighthawk


At most. But, if you've already overpaid the last 2 guys very difficult to negotiate a more fair, or hometown discount price.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 6:32 PM ET
They have to make moves to get defensive help. If it's a choice bye bye Bill Nye.
- aminnes

He won’t a fetch a top 2 RHD. A top 4 RHD are hard enough to find but more likely, possible bigger trade package is needed.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 26 @ 6:32 PM ET
At most. But, if you've already overpaid the last 2 guys very difficult to negotiate a more fair, or hometown discount price.
- aminnes



hmmm....
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:34 PM ET
They have to make moves to get defensive help. If it's a choice bye bye Bill Nye.
- aminnes


Well they will move out Zaitsev for cap help. We'll see what the cost is for a RH top 4 D.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:34 PM ET
At most. But, if you've already overpaid the last 2 guys very difficult to negotiate a more fair, or hometown discount price.
- aminnes


How is offering 10 million a hometown discount? LOL. Only on the Leafs would people claim this.
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