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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:08 PM ET



Turned 20: Dec 2017
Signed Contract: April 2017.

McAvoy was not "Player aged 20 or older, (or who but did turn 20 between September 16 and December 31 of the year in which he signs his first SPC, so he earned a year of professional experience by playing ten (4 ahl and 6 nhl playoff games) or more Professional Games under an SPC in a given League Year. "

- Tumbleweed
So you're trying to say him turning 20 in a completely different season affects his professional experience from the year before? That makes no sense.

The facts are that I've produced an article from the most highly regarded hockey site, saying he is ineligible. I've laid out that in the season a player signs, if he is 18-19 he needs to play 10 NHL games (which he did not), and that him turning 20 the next season has no bearing on his previous season's professional experience.

this could not be any clearer, yet you seem to be leaving it out every time:

"For the purposes of this Section 10.2(a), a Player aged 18 or 19 earns a
year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games
in a given NHL Season"

How old was he when he signed AND played in 2016-2017? Him turning 20 in 2017-2018 has nothing to do with that season. If he didn't play in 2016-2017, then the next season played 10 professional games, AHL or NHL, you'd be right. Then again, would he be an RFA? No.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
Landsberg is just doing his job. However, I appreciate that Hayes on Overdrive openly admits he loves the chaos and wants it because then he has content.

I figure Carlo is trying to suggest he "earned" his right because it's in the CBA for RFAs

I said it before and noone believed me but when the negotiations for the next CBA comes up I guarantee this RFA stuff will be addressed. Limit dollars...length...something. the older players who are 27 and 28 are going to be squeezed and they wont like it. Think Kap or Johnsson are worth 4? They probably are but cant get it.

- Aaron_85

I think theyll add arbitration hearings after the elc.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:20 PM ET
So you're trying to say him turning 20 in a completely different season affects his professional experience from the year before? That makes no sense.

The facts are that I've produced an article from the most highly regarded hockey site, saying he is ineligible. I've laid out that in the season a player signs, if he is 18-19 he needs to play 10 NHL games (which he did not), and that him turning 20 the next season has no bearing on his previous season's professional experience.

this could not be any clearer, yet you seem to be leaving it out every time:

"For the purposes of this Section 10.2(a), a Player aged 18 or 19 earns a
year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games
in a given NHL Season"

- RickJames77

You didn't reference a Hockeybuzz article...so?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:21 PM ET
So you're trying to say him turning 20 in a completely different season affects his professional experience from the year before? That makes no sense.

The facts are that I've produced an article from the most highly regarded hockey site, saying he is ineligible. I've laid out that in the season a player signs, if he is 18-19 he needs to play 10 NHL games (which he did not), and that him turning 20 the next season has no bearing on his previous season's professional experience.

this could not be any clearer, yet you seem to be leaving it out every time:

"For the purposes of this Section 10.2(a), a Player aged 18 or 19 earns a
year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games
in a given NHL Season"

- RickJames77

I don't have a dog in this fight, but you've produced one article from Fluto Shinzawa, whereas I've shown you articles from Sportsnet and the NHL.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
I don't have a dog in this fight, but you've produced one article from Fluto Shinzawa, whereas I've shown you articles from Sportsnet and the NHL.
- Atomic Wedgie

I've also clearly referenced the CBA.

How else can this be interpreted? "For the purposes of this Section 10.2(a), a Player aged 18 or 19 earns a
year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games
in a given NHL Season"

And how can someone's age in a future season dictate their previous year's professional experience? You agree that makes zero sense, no?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 27 @ 1:26 PM ET

- Aetherial


RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:27 PM ET
https://twitter.com/murph.../1143305622278070272?s=21
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
I've also clearly referenced the CBA.

How else can this be interpreted? "For the purposes of this Section 10.2(a), a Player aged 18 or 19 earns a
year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games
in a given NHL Season"

And how can someone's age in a future season dictate their previous year's professional experience? You agree that makes zero sense, no?

- RickJames77

Having a quick read, it doesn't look like he has accumulated 3 years, so I'm going to side with Fluto here.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
https://twitter.com/murph.../1143305622278070272?s=21
- RickJames77


Can't wait for the Carlo offer sheet !
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
Can't wait for the Carlo offer sheet !
- The Law



You can't!!!!










Just kidding.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
https://twitter.com/murph.../1143305622278070272?s=21
- RickJames77

This whole thing has been a smokescreen the whole time:

You've been so busy worrying about McAvoy - and we quietly snuck Carlo across the border and gave him a free tour of the CN Tower and lunch at RealSports.

Dubas wins....again.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
https://twitter.com/murph.../1143305622278070272?s=21
- RickJames77



isn't he a Bruins homer? I bet he's making poop up.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
Having a quick read, it doesn't look like he has accumulated 3 years, so I'm going to side with Fluto here.
- Atomic Wedgie



I'll await Tumble's rebuttal. I'll admit, the CBA can be a bit dense and confusing
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
isn't he a Bruins homer? I bet he's making poop up.
- PatC80

His name is Jimmy Murphy.

I'll bet you a pint of Guinness at the Black Rose his middle name is Clancy.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:40 PM ET
Mike Augello: Is “Priority 1” preventing Leafs from pursuing upgrades??
- mikeinbuffalo

trade all of these greedy, pencil neck creampuffs to the same team for some real dmen who don’t want to milk injuries and play house for half the season and some heavier forwards

then these “highly skilled” pantywaists can jack each other off in the change room while they win the presidents trophy

then we crush them into the glass and snap there pencil necks on our way to the cup

MAYBE keep glassthews

what a (frank)ing joke

edit: nice alliteration
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
His name is Jimmy Murphy.

I'll bet you a pint of Guinness at the Black Rose his middle name is Clancy.

- Atomic Wedgie



his name alone screams "Bruins homer".. I'm not a fan of Jimmy Clancy Murphy anymore.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
His name is Jimmy Murphy.

I'll bet you a pint of Guinness at the Black Rose his middle name is Clancy.

- Atomic Wedgie



For what it's worth, Brock Boeser is in the exact same situation.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
This whole thing has been a smokescreen the whole time:

You've been so busy worrying about McAvoy - and we quietly snuck Carlo across the border and gave him a free tour of the CN Tower and lunch at RealSports.

Dubas wins....again.

- Atomic Wedgie


when did he ever win apart from a bought AHL championship??
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:44 PM ET
when did he ever win apart from a bought AHL championship??
- MaximusAurelius

He parlayed his job as a stickboy for his grandfather's junior team into being named GM of the Leafs, before the age where he needed to shave.

If that ain't winning, I don't know what is.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
He parlayed his job as a stickboy for his grandfather's junior team into being named GM of the Leafs, before the age where he needed to shave.

If that ain't winning, I don't know what is.

- Atomic Wedgie


ow yes - so you mean a personal Dubas win.
not one actually for his team..
i got confused - sorry...
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
Umm, that article says absolutely nothing about offer sheets, when referencing McAvoy. It simply states that all of those players are coming out of their ELC, which he is. so...

Unless you’re a hockey fan living under a rock, you know that Sebastian Aho, Brayden Point, Patrik Laine, Mikko Rantanen, Mitch Marner, Matthew Tkachuk, Kyle Connor, Timo Meier, Brock Boeser, Zach Werenski, Ivan Provorov and Charlie McAvoy are all coming out of their entry-level contracts this summer.

- RickJames77


very smart move by Boston Management on the way they handled McAvoy. Other teams should take note. Instead of lowballing him now when they can, they will offer him a nice team friendly long-term deal and he will happily accept.


MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
very smart move by Boston Management on the way they handled McAvoy. Other teams should take note. Instead of lowballing him now when they can, they will offer him a nice team friendly long-term deal and he will happily accept.
- winsix


pure luck.
they never would have guessed he would end up a potential future norris winner at the time they let him play a few playoff games a few seasons ago.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
very smart move by Boston Management on the way they handled McAvoy. Other teams should take note. Instead of lowballing him now when they can, they will offer him a nice team friendly long-term deal and he will happily accept.
- winsix
We did it with Krug and Rielly Smith as well. I think you'll start to see it more and more with high end kids coming out of the NCAA once their college season is over.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
pure luck.
they never would have guessed he would end up a potential future norris winner at the time they let him play a few playoff games a few seasons ago.

- MaximusAurelius

We kind of had to play him also. That was the year the Bruins lost to Ottawa and 5 of our defensemen were hurt. If we somehow got past that round, we wouldn't even be having this conversation because he would've eclipsed 10 games.

It happened with Cale Makar this year. He just hit 10.
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:54 PM ET
Landsberg is just doing his job. However, I appreciate that Hayes on Overdrive openly admits he loves the chaos and wants it because then he has content.

I figure Carlo is trying to suggest he "earned" his right because it's in the CBA for RFAs

I said it before and noone believed me but when the negotiations for the next CBA comes up I guarantee this RFA stuff will be addressed. Limit dollars...length...something. the older players who are 27 and 28 are going to be squeezed and they wont like it. Think Kap or Johnsson are worth 4? They probably are but cant get it.

- Aaron_85

5 year ELC seems to be being talked up...current structure is eliminating the middle class.
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