Even if it's Ferris instead of Paul, what's the difference? His line about he's ok because he's 51 but Marner's will be affected because he's in his 20's was hilarious.

Why is Dreger surprised by this backlash? He chose to go down this route and waste so much time on it during the season. If there's no offersheets does he think it's not a big deal? He's put everything into offersheets that he's finished if there's none.

And what is Carlo talking about? He said Leaf fans all want Marner to take some big discount? WHat?
- RogerRoeper

It was all pretty amusing. We're in trouble when McKenzie retires with all of Dreger's nonsense...the difference in professionalism is very noticeable.

Carlo also mentioned how Marner has "earned this right" to visit as an RFA...I guess I'm old school, but 3 years in the league isn't earning that for me. I don't think this is what the guys that sacrificed for years to be paid a fair NHL wage had in mind either.

Landsberg just takes whatever the controversial alternate angle is no matter the argument...

AHL doesn't count when you're 18-19. Needs to be 10 NHL games. I'll bleach my bumhole and meet you at the Brass Rail for your Ahjay rimming.

"For the purposes of this Section 10.2(a), a Player aged 18 or 19 earns a
year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games
in a given NHL Season, and a Player aged 20 or older (or who turns 20
between September 16 and December 31 of the year in which he signs his
first SPC) earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or
more Professional Games under an SPC in a given League Year. "
- RickJames77

18-19 age doesn't apply. he signed his 1st spc in the year he turned 20 and ahl games count towards pro experience.

i will hit up taco bell before the brass rail.

18-19 age doesn't apply. he signed his 1st spc in the year he turned 20 and ahl games count towards pro experience.

i will hit up taco bell before the brass rail.
- Tumbleweed

Dude.

He signed his ELC when he was 19 and played that year, like you said. He played 4 AHL and 6 NHL games. 6 NHL games. Not 10. That doesn't count as a year of experience, but it does count as burning a year off of your ELC. The point you're referencing, would be if he had not played in 16-17 and debuted in 17-18. In that case, because he turned 20 in December, that year would've counted as a year of professional experience if he played 10 games or more in any professional league. It does not apply when you're 18-19 and playing in the AHL that year. 18 or 19 years of age 100% applies here.

18-19 age doesn't apply. he signed his 1st spc in the year he turned 20 and ahl games count towards pro experience.

i will hit up taco bell before the brass rail.
- Tumbleweed

Sportsnet is under the impression that you can offer-sheet McAvoy:

The landscape is a little clearer today. Aside from Auston Matthews, who signed a five-year deal in February, all the best RFAs are still unsigned, including Patrik Laine, Mitch Marner, Brayden Point, Charlie McAvoy, Mikko Rantanen, Kyle Connor and Matthew Tkachuk. With less than a month until all of these players can start talking to other teams, and just 32 more days until they can sign with one of them, there are a lot of offer sheet possibilities out there.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ts-work-players-sign-one/

Move Nylander for a Dman with a comparable contract value. Problem solved.

Sportsnet is under the impression that you can offer-sheet McAvoy:

The landscape is a little clearer today. Aside from Auston Matthews, who signed a five-year deal in February, all the best RFAs are still unsigned, including Patrik Laine, Mitch Marner, Brayden Point, Charlie McAvoy, Mikko Rantanen, Kyle Connor and Matthew Tkachuk. With less than a month until all of these players can start talking to other teams, and just 32 more days until they can sign with one of them, there are a lot of offer sheet possibilities out there.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ts-work-players-sign-one/
- Atomic Wedgie

And the Athletic says you cannot. It's the same as what happened with Johnny Gaudreau. And Torey Krug for that matter.

NHL agrees:

Potential candidates to sign an offer sheet include Toronto Maple Leafs forward Mitchell Marner, Tampa Bay Lightning center Brayden Point, Boston Bruins defensemen Charlie McAvoy and Brandon Carlo, Columbus Blue Jackets defenseman Zach Werenski, Winnipeg Jets forwards Patrik Laine and Kyle Connor, Vancouver Canucks forward Brock Boeser, Colorado Avalanche forward Mikko Rantanen, and Calgary Flames forward Matthew Tkachuk.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...tions-answers/c-308047180

Face it, RJ, you are completely franked.

Advantage: Dubas.

Apparently Leafs are in on Barrie. Good player. Have Rielly on one pairing then Barrie on another. Nice. Oh wait, he isn’t a slow useless tough guy. Can’t have him. Dang...
- Steven_Seagull

Barrie would be a decent pickup.. Can we get away with only giving up Brown?

Barrie would be a decent pickup.. Can we get away with only giving up Brown?
- PatC80

No, because Dubas sucks.

NHL agrees:

Potential candidates to sign an offer sheet include Toronto Maple Leafs forward Mitchell Marner, Tampa Bay Lightning center Brayden Point, Boston Bruins defensemen Charlie McAvoy and Brandon Carlo, Columbus Blue Jackets defenseman Zach Werenski, Winnipeg Jets forwards Patrik Laine and Kyle Connor, Vancouver Canucks forward Brock Boeser, Colorado Avalanche forward Mikko Rantanen, and Calgary Flames forward Matthew Tkachuk.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...tions-answers/c-308047180

Face it, RJ, you are completely franked.

Advantage: Dubas.
- Atomic Wedgie

When Charlie McAvoy’s entry-level contract expires at the conclusion of this season, he will not be eligible to sign an offer sheet with another club. He will be two years removed from having arbitration rights. Technically, McAvoy will not even be a traditional restricted free agent.

Because of his six playoff games against Ottawa in 2016, the Bruins defenseman will be categorized as a 10.2 (c) player: one who does not have three years of professional experience even after the expiration of his three-year ELC.

The cohort of 10.2 (c) players is spare but high-powered. They are typically NCAA players fished from school partly with the promise of instantly burning the first year of their ELCs. Torey Krug (Michigan State) and ex-Bruin Reilly Smith (Miami) were previous examples. So were former Boston College phenom Johnny Gaudreau, Jaden Schwartz (Colorado College) and Jason Zucker (Denver).

At a bare minimum, an employer of a 10.2 (c) player needs only to qualify him to retain his services. In McAvoy’s case, it would be a one-year, $971,250 qualifying offer for 2019-20 — take it or leave it.

The chances of this happening are nil.

Even if clubs have most of the bargaining power in such cases, they rarely flex their muscles to this degree. It would not be in the Bruins’ best long-term interest to irk McAvoy for a short-term advantage.

History proves it.


https://theathletic.com/8...-future-the-past-says-so/

NHL agrees:

Potential candidates to sign an offer sheet include Toronto Maple Leafs forward Mitchell Marner, Tampa Bay Lightning center Brayden Point, Boston Bruins defensemen Charlie McAvoy and Brandon Carlo, Columbus Blue Jackets defenseman Zach Werenski, Winnipeg Jets forwards Patrik Laine and Kyle Connor, Vancouver Canucks forward Brock Boeser, Colorado Avalanche forward Mikko Rantanen, and Calgary Flames forward Matthew Tkachuk.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...tions-answers/c-308047180

Face it, RJ, you are completely franked.

Advantage: Dubas.
- Atomic Wedgie

McAvoy cannot receive any offersheets, let alone sign one.
it sucks, because it woudl have been the obvious target for Leafs, even if Kadri + Nylander ++ would have been needed to ship out to make room for McAvoy and his 8-9mln AAV contract.

No, because Dubas sucks.
- Atomic Wedgie

true, I forgot about his level of suck

When Charlie McAvoy’s entry-level contract expires at the conclusion of this season, he will not be eligible to sign an offer sheet with another club. He will be two years removed from having arbitration rights. Technically, McAvoy will not even be a traditional restricted free agent.

Because of his six playoff games against Ottawa in 2016, the Bruins defenseman will be categorized as a 10.2 (c) player: one who does not have three years of professional experience even after the expiration of his three-year ELC.

The cohort of 10.2 (c) players is spare but high-powered. They are typically NCAA players fished from school partly with the promise of instantly burning the first year of their ELCs. Torey Krug (Michigan State) and ex-Bruin Reilly Smith (Miami) were previous examples. So were former Boston College phenom Johnny Gaudreau, Jaden Schwartz (Colorado College) and Jason Zucker (Denver).

At a bare minimum, an employer of a 10.2 (c) player needs only to qualify him to retain his services. In McAvoy’s case, it would be a one-year, $971,250 qualifying offer for 2019-20 — take it or leave it.

The chances of this happening are nil.

Even if clubs have most of the bargaining power in such cases, they rarely flex their muscles to this degree. It would not be in the Bruins’ best long-term interest to irk McAvoy for a short-term advantage.

History proves it.


https://theathletic.com/8...-future-the-past-says-so/
- RickJames77

Tell that to the NHL.

Face it, RJ. He's gone.

Gone to Toronto.

Check-mate.

Tell that to the NHL.

Face it, RJ. He's gone.

Gone to Toronto.

Check-mate.
- Atomic Wedgie

You are a cruel, hard man.

When Charlie McAvoy’s entry-level contract expires at the conclusion of this season, he will not be eligible to sign an offer sheet with another club. He will be two years removed from having arbitration rights. Technically, McAvoy will not even be a traditional restricted free agent.

Because of his six playoff games against Ottawa in 2016, the Bruins defenseman will be categorized as a 10.2 (c) player: one who does not have three years of professional experience even after the expiration of his three-year ELC.

The cohort of 10.2 (c) players is spare but high-powered. They are typically NCAA players fished from school partly with the promise of instantly burning the first year of their ELCs. Torey Krug (Michigan State) and ex-Bruin Reilly Smith (Miami) were previous examples. So were former Boston College phenom Johnny Gaudreau, Jaden Schwartz (Colorado College) and Jason Zucker (Denver).

At a bare minimum, an employer of a 10.2 (c) player needs only to qualify him to retain his services. In McAvoy’s case, it would be a one-year, $971,250 qualifying offer for 2019-20 — take it or leave it.

The chances of this happening are nil.

Even if clubs have most of the bargaining power in such cases, they rarely flex their muscles to this degree. It would not be in the Bruins’ best long-term interest to irk McAvoy for a short-term advantage.

History proves it.


https://theathletic.com/8...-future-the-past-says-so/
- RickJames77

but athletic also has him eligible.

https://theathletic.com/1...y-produce-an-offer-sheet/

but athletic also has him eligible.

https://theathletic.com/1...y-produce-an-offer-sheet/
- Tumbleweed

Umm, that article says absolutely nothing about offer sheets, when referencing McAvoy. It simply states that all of those players are coming out of their ELC, which he is. so...

Unless you’re a hockey fan living under a rock, you know that Sebastian Aho, Brayden Point, Patrik Laine, Mikko Rantanen, Mitch Marner, Matthew Tkachuk, Kyle Connor, Timo Meier, Brock Boeser, Zach Werenski, Ivan Provorov and Charlie McAvoy are all coming out of their entry-level contracts this summer.

Umm, that article says absolutely nothing about offer sheets, when referencing McAvoy. It simply states that all of those players are coming out of their ELC, which he is. so...

Unless you’re a hockey fan living under a rock, you know that Sebastian Aho, Brayden Point, Patrik Laine, Mikko Rantanen, Mitch Marner, Matthew Tkachuk, Kyle Connor, Timo Meier, Brock Boeser, Zach Werenski, Ivan Provorov and Charlie McAvoy are all coming out of their entry-level contracts this summer.
- RickJames77

oh

Umm, that article says absolutely nothing about offer sheets, when referencing McAvoy. It simply states that all of those players are coming out of their ELC, which he is. so...

Unless you’re a hockey fan living under a rock, you know that Sebastian Aho, Brayden Point, Patrik Laine, Mikko Rantanen, Mitch Marner, Matthew Tkachuk, Kyle Connor, Timo Meier, Brock Boeser, Zach Werenski, Ivan Provorov and Charlie McAvoy are all coming out of their entry-level contracts this summer.
- RickJames77

Yet you forgot Danton Heinen... You call yourself a Bruins fan?

My wife's hairdresser's cousin is next door neighbours with a guy who bowls with the husband of a real estate agent.

McAvoy is currently in Toronto, shopping for a house.

My Lord RickJames I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offense against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possible that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?

After July 1 Zaitsev's actual $$ works out to about 3.9 per year.

I smell value ....

Also - any team trying to woo Dreger's love child better be prepared to write some big signing bonus cheques .....like 25+ million in the next 12 months.

My wife's hairdresser's cousin is next door neighbours with a guy who bowls with the husband of a real estate agent.

McAvoy is currently in Toronto, shopping for a house.
- Atomic Wedgie

That makes sense.

Advantage: Marner

It was all pretty amusing. We're in trouble when McKenzie retires with all of Dreger's nonsense...the difference in professionalism is very noticeable.

Carlo also mentioned how Marner has "earned this right" to visit as an RFA...I guess I'm old school, but 3 years in the league isn't earning that for me. I don't think this is what the guys that sacrificed for years to be paid a fair NHL wage had in mind either.

Landsberg just takes whatever the controversial alternate angle is no matter the argument...
- Deeps27

Landsberg is just doing his job. However, I appreciate that Hayes on Overdrive openly admits he loves the chaos and wants it because then he has content.

I figure Carlo is trying to suggest he "earned" his right because it's in the CBA for RFAs

I said it before and noone believed me but when the negotiations for the next CBA comes up I guarantee this RFA stuff will be addressed. Limit dollars...length...something. the older players who are 27 and 28 are going to be squeezed and they wont like it. Think Kap or Johnsson are worth 4? They probably are but cant get it.

That makes sense.


- PatC80

I like how this will live forever