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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:23 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi


You can never have enough Lu's
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 10:42 PM ET
This 3m cap hit... on a player who demanded a trade...who is retired....makes my head hurt. (frank) you Betteman... (frank) you Gillis... and FA if Gillis' accusation is true.

If there is any talk of Lu making the ring of honor... I'll puke.

I dont think anyone who demanded out makes the so called honor. Sorry Pavel, love ya but that includes you. Kesler... give me a break. If those 3 are on it... it should be called Ring Worm of Honor.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 10:50 PM ET
OK but $26 million is 25% of $104M, do you think it will exceed that?
- golfingsince

How much is off the books by then?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 10:53 PM ET
My penchant for rosterhawking spells out how cap allocates in future seasons. Someone go ahead & give it a whirl.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 10:54 PM ET
Start with agreeing Boeser gets 7.5m
Leaves 8m & 23 signed.
Demotions & RFA’s left on the plate
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:03 PM ET
No $hit!👍🏿😂
- thundachunk


I always thought Johnny Canuck was Jesus in a toque. I took it as a sign.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:07 PM ET
Erik Haula to Carolina for Nic Roy.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:11 PM ET
Only Luongo's $3M is on Gillis. Benning must have known about that before he signed on, I mean we all did.

Of course, some thought it would never happen. Don't worry that we overpaid for Beagle, traded picks for Gudbranson's and Sutter's, cap space won't be an issue. Now we aren't worried about trading a 1st round pick as part of a package to a cap strapped team because we're going to go for it and make the playoffs.

We aren't against signing declining players to long term contracts, because the GM saves his job? Why? Because of his drafting?

He's had the opportunity at a pile of top 40 picks for 6 years, like no Canucks GM has seen in a long time. I sure as hell hope he has some nice new shiny pieces, but he has holes to fill because he never hung on to his other picks to begin with. He continued that trend at this draft, despite it being obvious to anyone who can't be described as anything else than "Benning loyalists" that he overpaid.

- golfingsince

Amen!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 26 @ 11:15 PM ET
Thanks Carol.
I haven't back read yet, but, Lefty and a few others, guaranteed me that this wouldn't happen.
This is just another reason why, the trade to win now, was foolish IMO.

Now back reading begins.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:17 PM ET
Smyl said they knew about it and it won't be stopping them from going ahead and doing what they started.
- VANTEL

He was hooked up to a heart monitor and on sedatives when he said that.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:29 PM ET
This might put pom pom makers out of business.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
Thanks Carol.
I haven't back read yet, but, Lefty and a few others, guaranteed me that this wouldn't happen.
This is just another reason why, the trade to win now, was foolish IMO.

Now back reading begins.

- Reubenkincade


Wish I could remember all the ppl who gave me sh!t when I tried to explain how stupid that contract was/how inevitable recapture was. I hope they fight it.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 11:33 PM ET
Thanks Carol.
I haven't back read yet, but, Lefty and a few others, guaranteed me that this wouldn't happen.
This is just another reason why, the trade to win now, was foolish IMO.

Now back reading begins.

- Reubenkincade


Lefty assured me the lotto would have helped us by 3 tries. You get the tar, I'll get the feathers.

Nothing wrong with adding players now especially with a reasonable contract. Something wrong with sending the 1st rounder though. That has no relation to Lungo's cap hit.

The good news is in 2 years, most likely Podz will be added to the top 6 on a 3 year ELC. So there is that smart move.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:35 PM ET
Lefty assured me the lotto would have helped us by 3 tries. You get the tar, I'll get the feathers.

Nothing wrong with adding players now especially with a reasonable contract. Something wrong with sending the 1st rounder though. That has no relation to Lungo's cap hit.

The good news is in 2 years, most likely Podz will be added to the top 6 on a 3 year ELC. So there is that smart move.

- boonerbuck


Maybe Hoglander too
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:37 PM ET
Wish I could remember all the ppl who gave me sh!t when I tried to explain how stupid that contract was/how inevitable recapture was. I hope they fight it.
- DrChristianTroy


My biggest gripe is that it should have been grandfathered in as a new rule

Especially with teams LTIR’ing there way out of it in most cases anyway
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 26 @ 11:37 PM ET
This might put pom pom makers out of business.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Never!
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 11:37 PM ET
Maybe Hoglander too
- VANTEL


Is he locked down for 2 seasons as well?

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:40 PM ET
Never!

- Shuswap Wap[/img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/1tk8yQfv2ApEc/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5d1439ad706f7767559b36fa&rid=giphy.gif[img][/img]

It looks out of work to me.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:41 PM ET
Is he locked down for 2 seasons as well?
- boonerbuck


Yes, but I think someone mentioned that the transfer agreement between the SHL and NHL is a lot more friendly. I think the Canucks could buy out his SHL deal, but don’t quote me on that.

Frankly, I’d rather keep prospects away from the AHL as long as possible. So far there’s been more negative than positive stories/development under Cull. I’m sceptical about him lasting very long in Utica
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:41 PM ET
Is he locked down for 2 seasons as well?
- boonerbuck

With this Luongo thing we're going to need them to be locked down for 3 years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:42 PM ET
Is he locked down for 2 seasons as well?
- boonerbuck


Two at the most
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 11:49 PM ET
With this Luongo thing we're going to need them to be locked down for 3 years.
- A_SteamingLombardi


It only works out to 2.2m doesnt it? His salary comes off the hit? It complicates things but let's not get carried away... this is not a Toronto situation over 2.2m. There's plenty of fat that can be trimmed over the next 3 off seasons.

If it's still JB's team after 2 more seasons, I'm confident he'll make space for ELC's if they make the team. He has been true to that all along. If it's a different GM... well who knows. Fu*k face Gillis traded Grabner right after he had a 4 goal pre season game as a throw in toss away for a crippled vet. Who knows what the next GM will be like.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 11:54 PM ET
Two at the most
- VANTEL


Doesnt sound like he's locked into more than one then? 2nd is an option? Out clause?

Is it possible he makes the team next season then?
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:57 PM ET
Doesnt sound like he's locked into more than one then? 2nd is an option? Out clause?

Is it possible he makes the team next season then?

- boonerbuck


Very
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 12:01 AM ET
Doesnt sound like he's locked into more than one then? 2nd is an option? Out clause?

Is it possible he makes the team next season then?

- boonerbuck



Think so
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