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golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 26 @ 8:45 PM ET
jt miller is a good contract, myers isn't done your speculating, gudbranson,LE,sutter,granlund a few others will be gone.
- Bettmanhatesus


I sure the (frank) hope it never gets done. You go ahead and pretend it's all rosy, i'll be more realistic. There's no doubt we have a nice young group of talent, but surrounding them tomorrow with what is the best available today will do nothing more than hinder their chances at the ultimate goal.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 26 @ 8:46 PM ET
GM'S need to get together and stop these monstrous ufa contracts, make it a limit of 4 years.
- Bettmanhatesus

They need to stay away from Myers. See Shattenkirk, don’t want that to happen and it didn’t take long for his career to dive
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 8:51 PM ET
Well we're talking about signing Myers and just expecting somebody to take LE for peanuts. I'd say given how we just acquired salary for a 1st round draft pick and have handed out contracts to LE, Sutter, Beagle and Gudbranson it really isn't a stretch at all.

Less than a year ago many people thought Beagle's deal wouldn't have financial ramifications. That's 12 Million for LE, Beagle and Luongo in 3 years. The only one that Benning knew about when he got hired was the possibility of Lu's cap hit. Even if the cap is at $90M that's about 13.5 % of max salary cap for those 3 players.

Let that set in.

- golfingsince

F*ck you.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 26 @ 8:54 PM ET
^this

Tiny or leap would have signed that contract in a f*cking heartbeat if they were in Lu's shoes. He was the best goalie in canuck history and that's it. Huge congrats on a brilliant career and wish him well. People whining about luongos cap penalty need to shut up.

- Codes1087


The only person to blame is Benning, if he hasn’t prepared for this inevitability. If Lui, Beagle and Sutter are keeping them from signing Myers to a max deal I’m going to be 😡
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 8:55 PM ET
Schaller doesn't even count, that's $1M if we sign an entry level replacement player. Entry level guys now are going to need contracts. You can't expect guys like Gaudette , Juolevi etc. to produce and pay them like bums.

Edler still provides something, so you have to replace what he brings. For a team so many years into a rebuild where the absolute only contract still signed by Gillis is haunting them is Lu's, they're not in a good cap situation moving forward. BTW, at 90M Lu's penalty would only be about 3% of the cap.

- golfingsince


There will be no issues with the Cap. Isn't there a charge of 750 mil or higher for the expansion team to be split with the owners? Sports betting starts this year. A new TV deal in the States also.

Owners will be making money up the wazoo and the cap will increase.

OJ will not get a substantial raise . Gaudette had 5 goals last year and from the sound of it , Smyl made it sound like he will be returning to Utica this year to get his proper development.

It is okay if you don't like what is going on but Canucks do not seem worried at all and are going forward regardless of what fans think.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 26 @ 8:59 PM ET
could you imagine HB if we signed karlsson to that deal.
- Bettmanhatesus


We shouldn't be signing anyone to that type of deal. It's insane.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:00 PM ET
PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:00 PM ET
Gotta cheap out on D cap allocation & wait for OJ & Woo & Rathbone to marinade into the line-up. The F’s in the pipeline are similar when Vet contract start expiring.
- Nighthawk


A marinade is the stuff you put meat into to marinate (take on the flavor)
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:01 PM ET
There will be no issues with the Cap. Isn't there a charge of 750 mil or higher for the expansion team to be split with the owners? Sports betting starts this year. A new TV deal in the States also.

Owners will be making money up the wazoo and the cap will increase.

OJ will not get a substantial raise . Gaudette had 5 goals last year and from the sound of it , Smyl made it sound like he will be returning to Utica this year to get his proper development.

It is okay if you don't like what is going on but Canucks do not seem worried at all and are going forward regardless of what fans think.

- VANTEL


Well that makes me feel better.

I mean Pablo Escobar wasn't worried at all and went forward regardless of how his fans felt, and he had a pile of fans.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:06 PM ET
Well that makes me feel better.

I mean Pablo Escobar wasn't worried at all and went forward regardless of how his fans felt, and he had a pile of fans.

- golfingsince


Canucks have 5 players signed past 2 years and one is Loui if he is still on the team.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:08 PM ET
F*ck you.
- Marwood

Yes I want to hit somebody.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:08 PM ET
Yeah, it's great to have an injection of youth in the lineup. However, it will turn to nothing if we can't keep some of it or have roster holes because we're overpaying positions.

Everybody, and I mean everybody hates LE. By the end, just about everybody hated EG. Our answer to this is to go out and overpay Myers? WTF man? You can just about kiss everything goodbye if you lock onto this guy for high salary.

- golfingsince

You, clearly are not a real fan.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:09 PM ET
Well that makes me feel better.

I mean Pablo Escobar wasn't worried at all and went forward regardless of how his fans felt, and he had a pile of fans.

- golfingsince

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 9:11 PM ET
The Gillis era still haunting us for 3 more years.
- Bettmanhatesus


He has lots of fans here still.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:14 PM ET
I sure the (frank) hope it never gets done. You go ahead and pretend it's all rosy, i'll be more realistic. There's no doubt we have a nice young group of talent, but surrounding them tomorrow with what is the best available today will do nothing more than hinder their chances at the ultimate goal.
- golfingsince

golfingsince
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Jun 26 @ 9:16 PM ET
Canucks have 5 players signed past 2 years and one is Loui if he is still on the team.
- VANTEL

The other 4 are Horvat, Miller, Beagle and Roussel. For probably 25% of the cap.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 9:16 PM ET
Hoglander is probably the cutest Canuck drafted since Jake.
- Nucker101


Time to poster over that Kesler one on your bedroom ceiling.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:17 PM ET
The other 4 are Horvat, Miller, Beagle and Roussel. For probably 25% of the cap.
- golfingsince



You know what the cap is in three years ?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:18 PM ET
The other 4 are Horvat, Miller, Beagle and Roussel. For probably 25% of the cap.
- golfingsince

The new Core.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 26 @ 9:18 PM ET
I’m angry at God for making me a Canuck fan.
- bloatedmosquito

"Woe to the one who quarrels with his Maker-- An earthenware vessel among the vessels of earth! Will the clay say to the potter, 'What are you doing?' Or the thing you are making say, 'He has no hands '?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:19 PM ET
You know what the cap is in two years ?
- VANTEL

For the Canucks or the rest of the teams?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:22 PM ET
For the Canucks or the rest of the teams?
- A_SteamingLombardi



I don't think you can blame Benning for Gillis's stupid contracts .



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 9:30 PM ET
That's were that came from, zep being Satan worshipers but they arn't.
- Bettmanhatesus


Satan isnt an occult thing. Lucifer is. Lucifer is Pagan. Satan is old testament. Roman church was who identified them as the same but Lucifer was only mentioned once in the old testament I think and it was not a reference to Satan.

Lucifer is ancient solar cult.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 26 @ 9:32 PM ET
This is entertaining: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vi...he-panel-intern%7E1716413
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 9:35 PM ET
I'm a little surprised by your take on this. It had nothing to do with Gillis. He signed a legal contract with his player following several examples that had already set the precedent. Bettman simply changed the rules after the fact.
- YeOldTimer


This is fair.
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