If Chevy Trade Lowry for Murphy it would likely not be long for his replacement to step in

Not sure.

All is quiet.
- Tyler Cameron

Vegas probably has about 50 offers on the table for various players, either individually or as packages. I am sure they are playing one team's offers against others.

Hartman obviously has something to prove...maybe even to stay in the NHL. He may be a bit humbled by not being tendered

I'd rather the Hawks gave him a 1yr deal for the 4th line then overpay Tanev...and I'm not a Hartman fan

He's a useful complimentary player is my point. But I remember his 2nd hit being memorable.
- I Am The Breadman

I dont think they count when he tripped and face planted on the boards as a hit

Well explain your theory or reason as to why Chicago should continue holding out hope . Sikura has played enough games to get a great sense of his skill and impact. He has played in the top 6 and top 9 role and his numbers and lack of ability to finish doesnt justify wasting anymore time hoping and praying he somehow catches lightening in a bottle.


Stan has a window of 4 years or less to utilize toews and Kanes remainder contracts and skills to win 1 more cup.

This whole half hearted approach the team has taken doesn't instil confidence that Stan can put together all the right pieces .

Sure Perry has had some issues but he has a solid record and maybe a fresh start just like brad Richards could be enough to win.
- Taylorst1

Sikura has barely a half of a season’s worth of playing time. The sense that I get (supported by lots of numbers) of his skill and impact is that he’s a very good player at both ends of the ice save for maybe his finishing ability. Not every player is going to produce huge point totals, but that doesn’t mean they don’t provide value to the team as a whole.

What I meant, but didn’t clarify in my original post about him being on the top line is this: I also doubt that he is ultimately top line material. But since he’s done everything else well (possession, board battles, defense, play making etc) maybe it would be interesting to see him with 19&88. Because if his scoring ability doesn’t manifest itself playing with those two, then maybe it never will. That’s fine too, because he still does a lot of the little things that help teams win cups, and if he does those things on a bargain of a contract then even better. If he proves to be a bottom 6 guy, then so be it, there is still value there. They can’t all be superstars. Dianna Ross needed the Supremes, and Gladys Knight had the Pips.

In the words of the late great Judge Elihu Smails, “the world”...or team in this case...”needs ditch diggers too”

Is any Vegas deal dead?
- LAHawk

Not sure.

All is quiet.- Tyler Cameron
- Tyler Cameron

Being smart is great , but what is his purpose if he is not producing , skating around and holding the puck doesn't measure to success.

Even if you take that small sample and take into account his size and skill set , his numbers should be better , that's my entire point.

How come Debrincat came in and stepped up and produced. Maybe it's because he is a better player .

Repeating the same thing doesn't change the outcome.
If sikura could be part of this team and needs more time than keep him in Rockford until it's so obvious he is ready.
- Taylorst1

Seems to be your strategy, so I wouldn’t knock it too much.

DREAM:

Saad – Lowry – Tanev



REALITY:

Saad-Anisimov-Perlini



Let's live the dream!

I didn't read it as a 3x3 deal, I think it was 3 years 3 mil total. I could be wrong though.
- I Am The Breadman

I’m building a team too, it’s a work in progress, but I had him for three years at $1.75m

Regarding Hawks RFA qualifying offers....

https://chicago.suntimes....-david-kampf-dylan-sikura

TC - I like your thinking.

I am ok with keeping AA. But I agree he is likely to be moved July 1st.

We are overloaded with left side dmen and short on right side dmen. If they move Murphy we really only have 2 natural RD. One is Joki and some think he will start in Rockford (I think because he is right handed it helps his chances of staying with the Hawks). The other is Seabs and almost no one on this board thinks he is more than a 3rd pairing dman or 7th dman right now. They played Gus on the left side some last year, and probably will be forced to again this year. So if they move Murphy for Lowry I would look for them to try to add another natural RD.
LD – Keith (LH) – Maatta (LH) - DeHaan (LH) – Koekkoek (LH) – Dahlstrom (LH)
RD – Joki (RH) – Seabs (RH) – Murphy (RH)
LD/RD – Gus (LH) (natural position LD, but played some on the right side)

The other thing that will be interesting to see is what wing guys end up playing and who their line mates will be. They are all left handers. For most young players I think flipping them from RW to LW and playing them with different line mates every few games is counterproductive. One of the things that bugged me about Q was his constant flipping of the young players, never giving them a chance to settle in on one wing with the same center for maybe 10 15 games in a row.
LW/RW – Kubalik (LH) –- Sikura (LH) – Caggiula (LH) – Perlini (LH) – Wedin? (LH) – Quennville (LH)

Sikura has played 38 games & a former 6th round pick. I guess he gets no time to develop. He plays a possession game, hits, battles along the board, & looks for the open man. I don't care if he doesn't score, he can chip in or not as we have a top 6 filling out nicely. He's a smart kid slowly honing his skills.
- I Am The Breadman

You're wasting your keystrokes - Sikura haters will be Sikura haters.

Hartman obviously has something to prove...maybe even to stay in the NHL. He may be a bit humbled by not being tendered

I'd rather the Hawks gave him a 1yr deal for the 4th line then overpay Tanev...and I'm not a Hartman fan
- PatShart

Two entirely different players, Tanev is a spark plug, Hartman is a flat tire.

I’m building a team too, it’s a work in progress, but I had him for three years at $1.75m
- walleyeb1

I was clarifying, not team building, haha. I'm fine with that though. I'd like him on the bottom 6.

Sikura has barely a half of a season’s worth of playing time. The sense that I get (supported by lots of numbers) of his skill and impact is that he’s a very good player at both ends of the ice save for maybe his finishing ability. Not every player is going to produce huge point totals, but that doesn’t mean they don’t provide value to the team as a whole.

What I meant, but didn’t clarify in my original post about him being on the top line is this: I also doubt that he is ultimately top line material. But since he’s done everything else well (possession, board battles, defense, play making etc) maybe it would be interesting to see him with 19&88. Because if his scoring ability doesn’t manifest itself playing with those two, then maybe it never will. That’s fine too, because he still does a lot of the little things that help teams win cups, and if he does those things on a bargain of a contract than even better. If he proves to be a bottom 6 guy, then so be it, there is still value there. They can’t all be superstars. Dianna Ross needed the Supremes, and Gladys Knight had the Pips.

In the words of the late great Judge Elihu Smails, “the world”...or team in this case...”needs ditch diggers too”
- Ogilthorpe2

38 games and his numbers along with so many times we watched him choke when scoring more often than not. He hasn't done anything worthy to help any team win a Stanley cup and he is 24 years old supposedly in his prime years now, the learning and adjustment period is over.

If your a depth player when called upon your needed to produce or help make your line mates better.

He is considered a skilful scorer , not a shutdown or big body bang and crash create havoc type player.

I just think with the past 4 years of decline , and 2 years of missing the playoffs and toews and Kane in their 30`s if Chicago intends on making the playoffs and winning a cup it's now or never.

Also the elephant in the room is Keith and Seabrook, their age ,decline n play and the ridiculous term left.

Chic ago can't get better with those 2 , all good things come to a end.

You're wasting your keystrokes - Sikura haters will be Sikura haters.
- EbonyRaptor

The hate goes beyond Sikura, but I get your point just the same.

Well explain your theory or reason as to why Chicago should continue holding out hope . Sikura has played enough games to get a great sense of his skill and impact. He has played in the top 6 and top 9 role and his numbers and lack of ability to finish doesnt justify wasting anymore time hoping and praying he somehow catches lightening in a bottle.


Stan has a window of 4 years or less to utilize toews and Kanes remainder contracts and skills to win 1 more cup.

This whole half hearted approach the team has taken doesn't instil confidence that Stan can put together all the right pieces .

Sure Perry has had some issues but he has a solid record and maybe a fresh start just like brad Richards could be enough to win.
- Taylorst1

Where you and I disagree regarding Sikura is I think he has shown plenty to warrant being one of the 12 forwards on this team. The only thing he hasn't shown is goal scoring but goal scoring isn't the end-all be-all. He does enough other stuff well to continue to give him time to see if he can get crack the seal on goal scoring.

Sikura is a good young cost controlled forward who has demonstrated he understands how to play a defensive game in the NHL on a team that doesn't play defense so well. He has also demonstrated he can score on each level of hockey he has played, except, so far, in the NHL. If you watched him play you'd know how he played, you'd see he had a number of opportunities to score and you'd also see a rookie playing a composed mature game and who didn't allow the pressure of not scoring affect other facets of his game. Next season when the Hawks are on TV, put down your gameboy and your phone and spend 3 hours watching the game. You may be surprised that there's a allot more to a successful team than scoring goals.
- paulr

I hate to continue the Sikura discussion, but maybe he is willing or capable of playing on the PK. Any opinions by anybody?

Couldn't agree more
- RaleighHawk

I agree. Delia had a few good games, but showed a lot of weaknesses the more he played. I think Lankinen could be the backup. I like him more than Delia. But maybe it is better for Lankinen to be "the man" in Rockford getting 75% of the starts to open the season. Then call him up in December or so.

I thought it was an AWFUL trade at the time.
- Z3Hawk

Of course you did.

You're wasting your keystrokes - Sikura haters will be Sikura haters.
- EbonyRaptor

Is it wrong to say that in the 38 games he has played, he has left a lot to be desired? I dont think we should write him off, but I won't sit here and say his prospective stock has gotten greater in his short time.

I was clarifying, not team building, haha. I'm fine with that though. I'd like him on the bottom 6.
- I Am The Breadman

I’ll post my arm chair GM later, I’m busy taking the morning off. I’ll it when I get into the office. But yes that’s where I put him.

Not sure.

All is quiet.
- Tyler Cameron

The calm before the storm ... Frolik should be a Hawk in 3 . 2 . 1 ...

Sikura shouldnt make more than 1mil so they can bury him and his salary when needed

Sikura has barely a half of a season’s worth of playing time. The sense that I get (supported by lots of numbers) of his skill and impact is that he’s a very good player at both ends of the ice save for maybe his finishing ability. Not every player is going to produce huge point totals, but that doesn’t mean they don’t provide value to the team as a whole.

What I meant, but didn’t clarify in my original post about him being on the top line is this: I also doubt that he is ultimately top line material. But since he’s done everything else well (possession, board battles, defense, play making etc) maybe it would be interesting to see him with 19&88. Because if his scoring ability doesn’t manifest itself playing with those two, then maybe it never will. That’s fine too, because he still does a lot of the little things that help teams win cups, and if he does those things on a bargain of a contract then even better. If he proves to be a bottom 6 guy, then so be it, there is still value there. They can’t all be superstars. Dianna Ross needed the Supremes, and Gladys Knight had the Pips.

In the words of the late great Judge Elihu Smails, “the world”...or team in this case...”needs ditch diggers too”
- Ogilthorpe2

In that respect remember when Frolik first came to be the second line center, after a couple of 20 goal seasons in Florida. and he was considered a bust as he scored like 2 goals in 30 games? In fact, I don't think Frolik scored more than 5 goals in a season in his tenure with the Hawks? And we are looking at Frolik at $4 million for a 3rd/4th line role? I would give Sikura a chance on his ELC, fi he becomes a Michel Frolik, good PK, responsible forward I would be happy at $925K.