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golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:24 AM ET
Sikura in the top six would be a major major hole. I can't really rely on Dach stepping in, as impressive as this kid is and the bright future he has.

As I said yesterday, I know Bowman said they're only looking at one year deals for PK guys but what he didn't and won't mention is how trades can open up opportunities to take on term. If you move Anisimov and Murphy out, you could add a top six winger.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:25 AM ET
Tyler, I agree DeBrincat is a smart player, but did he officially change his name to DeBraincat?
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
And second.

Read this morning that Calgary has cap issues. too. They have 13M to extend goalie Rittich,obtain a back up goalie, sign RFA's Tkachuck, Bennett and Mangiapane

Maybe they want to move Frolik and his 4.3M for cap space. Since they are in a bind and don't want salary back, possibly a mid round draft pick or two can get him.

- boilermaker100


I agree Frolik would be ideal for what we're looking for. Go get'm Stan.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:27 AM ET
Best thing long term is probably to sit back and be happy with the moves made. We need money so sign Gus, Cat and Strome next year and right now uoung players are getting PAID.
- PetterKane

Peter, I know you love Gus, but this will be his last season in Chicago. His heir replacement is waiting in the wings in Adam Boqvist. The Hawks are going to give Boqvist every chance to do what Gus does. In sports, the NHL included, teams really like giving their 1st round picks every opportunity to prove themselves (fair or unfair), and Boqvist will be no different starting in the 2020-2021 season in my opinion.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:29 AM ET
Moving Danault (damn, I did it) still hurts forever and always.
- Tyler Cameron

Moving Danault hurt - especially for the return (altho I’m not sure how many were against the deal at the time - other than Nester, who hates every deal - I was ok with it at the time). Moving Panarin out - I’m ok with Saad for a “cost controlled” two more years, instead of losing Panarin for probably nothing this summer.

All GMs regret moving some players.

But other than those, I don’t see any players traded away that we can really be upset about their leaving - certainly wouldn’t mind having Shaw back, I’m fine with bringing Frolik back for a season - who else?

Certainly not Hartman, for me, not Schmaltz, not a still-unproved Kahun, Forsling, or Forsberg....

Time to stop pining for Danault, I think.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 9:30 AM ET
Peter, I know you love Gus, but this will be his last season in Chicago. His heir replacement is waiting in the wings in Adam Boqvist. The Hawks are going to give Boqvist every chance to do what Gus does. In sports, the NHL included, teams really like giving their 1st round picks every opportunity to prove themselves (fair or unfair), and Boqvist will be no different starting in the 2020-2021 season in my opinion.
- ChicagoHope

Agreed. Also, Gus isn’t young.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:31 AM ET
We need a back up goalie ,Delia is not going to cut it . HAWKS may miss Forsberg more then some think ..
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
And that's what a 1st line wing is paid to do...score.
- Beaver-Warrior

Sikura - he seems to have scored everywhere he’s played so far except here.

He could be a “triple-A player”, but I’m guessing (considering how he’s skated here so far) he’ll do it for Chicago, too.
PetterKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.12.2015

Jun 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
Peter, I know you love Gus, but this will be his last season in Chicago. His heir replacement is waiting in the wings in Adam Boqvist. The Hawks are going to give Boqvist every chance to do what Gus does. In sports, the NHL included, teams really like giving their 1st round picks every opportunity to prove themselves (fair or unfair), and Boqvist will be no different starting in the 2020-2021 season in my opinion.
- ChicagoHope


True, but so far Boqvist has not played a game in the NHL and will probably not do it this season ether. Gus is proven and the won’t except Boqvist to just come in and dominante.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
Great, not only write about possibly getting Lowry but posting his height and weight, you're sure to give all the size queens their morning wood.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 9:34 AM ET
Moving Danault hurt - especially for the return (altho I’m not sure how many were against the deal at the time - other than Nester, who hates every deal - I was ok with it at the time). Moving Panarin out - I’m ok with Saad for a “cost controlled” two more years, instead of losing Panarin for probably nothing this summer.

All GMs regret moving some players.

But other than those, I don’t see any players traded away that we can really be upset about their leaving - certainly wouldn’t mind having Shaw back, I’m fine with bringing Frolik back for a season - who else?

Certainly not Hartman, for me, not Schmaltz, not a still-unproved Kahun, Forsling, or Forsberg....

Time to stop pining for Danault, I think.

- StLBravesFan

I hated it at the time too. The players he got, Fleischmann (has been) and Weise (never was) were not the players that team needed to get over the hump.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 26 @ 9:34 AM ET
Tyler, Can you reference a site where you obtained that chart listing the top PK forwards? Thanks.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
TC, I like your thinking!! However as the roster currently looks, swap Saad and Sikura spots and I like the look of that top 6 more. Keep up the great work, you have been doing a terrific job keeping us updated on the Hawks!!
gnosox1986
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 01.25.2012

Jun 26 @ 9:37 AM ET
Moving Danault hurt - especially for the return (altho I’m not sure how many were against the deal at the time - other than Nester, who hates every deal - I was ok with it at the time). Moving Panarin out - I’m ok with Saad for a “cost controlled” two more years, instead of losing Panarin for probably nothing this summer.

All GMs regret moving some players.

But other than those, I don’t see any players traded away that we can really be upset about their leaving - certainly wouldn’t mind having Shaw back, I’m fine with bringing Frolik back for a season - who else?

Certainly not Hartman, for me, not Schmaltz, not a still-unproved Kahun, Forsling, or Forsberg....

Time to stop pining for Danault, I think.

- StLBravesFan


The worst part about the PD trade was giving up a 2nd with him. Flesh and Wiese were aging pieces on a middling Montreal team. Montreal was the definition of "Average" that year. and we gave them the best player and a pick worth more than either vet.

If it was like PD and a 5th or 6th, it would be easier to swallow, because that 2nd rounder we gave up could have helped replace PD later. But that deal was a fleecing. I get Stan/Q were swinging for the fences for another cup run. It made sense to make a move to go it... but that move specifically hurts.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jun 26 @ 9:37 AM ET
Why do people continue to want to pay Tanev - a 4th line WINGER (not even a center with versatility that can take faceoffs) 3 million dollars????

Kruger at 3mil was over paid, but at least he can take draws.

Sheez.

For the bottom 6...think Kunitz, Wingels, or other bargain shopping/reclamation project for this role. Stan is more likely to take that flier on a 1yr deal than give a 4th line RWer 3y deal at 3mil per (at least let's hope)

- PatShart


I didn't read it as a 3x3 deal, I think it was 3 years 3 mil total. I could be wrong though.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:37 AM ET
True, but so far Boqvist has not played a game in the NHL and will probably not do it this season ether. Gus is proven and the won’t except Boqvist to just come in and dominante.
- PetterKane

Both are defensive liabilities, you cannot have both playing in your top 6. Gus is valuable no doubt, but I just think going forward the Hawks value Boqvist more.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
I hated it at the time too. The players he got, Fleischmann (has been) and Weise (never was) were not the players that team needed to get over the hump.
- Ogilthorpe2

OK - except for Nester and Ogi, who hate every deal....

RaleighHawk
Joined: 03.29.2016

Jun 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
We need a back up goalie ,Delia is not going to cut it . HAWKS may miss Forsberg more then some think ..
- oldduffman

Couldn't agree more
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
Why do people continue to want to pay Tanev - a 4th line WINGER (not even a center with versatility that can take faceoffs) 3 million dollars????

Kruger at 3mil was over paid, but at least he can take draws.

Sheez.

For the bottom 6...think Kunitz, Wingels, or other bargain shopping/reclamation project for this role. Stan is more likely to take that flier on a 1yr deal than give a 4th line RWer 3y deal at 3mil per (at least let's hope)

- PatShart


That is how teams get into Cap trouble. Some player achieves success in an environment that perfectly suits him, gets signed by another team for big dollars, and then cannot duplicate this play in his new environment.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jun 26 @ 9:39 AM ET
Moving Danault hurt - especially for the return (altho I’m not sure how many were against the deal at the time - other than Nester, who hates every deal - I was ok with it at the time). Moving Panarin out - I’m ok with Saad for a “cost controlled” two more years, instead of losing Panarin for probably nothing this summer.

All GMs regret moving some players.

But other than those, I don’t see any players traded away that we can really be upset about their leaving - certainly wouldn’t mind having Shaw back, I’m fine with bringing Frolik back for a season - who else?

Certainly not Hartman, for me, not Schmaltz, not a still-unproved Kahun, Forsling, or Forsberg....

Time to stop pining for Danault, I think.

- StLBravesFan


I thought it was an AWFUL trade at the time.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:41 AM ET
Couldn't agree more
- RaleighHawk

Let's see what Delia looks like with actual NHL defensemen playing in front of him now. I would venture to say that this newly constructed Hawks blueline will not be giving up 36 shots (Tampa Bay) and 29 (Toronto) in a period this year.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 26 @ 9:41 AM ET
Why do people continue to want to pay Tanev - a 4th line WINGER (not even a center with versatility that can take faceoffs) 3 million dollars????

Kruger at 3mil was over paid, but at least he can take draws.

Sheez.

For the bottom 6...think Kunitz, Wingels, or other bargain shopping/reclamation project for this role. Stan is more likely to take that flier on a 1yr deal than give a 4th line RWer 3y deal at 3mil per (at least let's hope)

- PatShart


Those guys really worked out well.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jun 26 @ 9:41 AM ET
Couldn't agree more
- RaleighHawk


What has Delia done or not done that you have basically written him off?
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jun 26 @ 9:44 AM ET
#25 in TC's list. Make it happen Stan!
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:44 AM ET
Moving Danault hurt - especially for the return (altho I’m not sure how many were against the deal at the time - other than Nester, who hates every deal - I was ok with it at the time). Moving Panarin out - I’m ok with Saad for a “cost controlled” two more years, instead of losing Panarin for probably nothing this summer.

All GMs regret moving some players.

But other than those, I don’t see any players traded away that we can really be upset about their leaving - certainly wouldn’t mind having Shaw back, I’m fine with bringing Frolik back for a season - who else?

Certainly not Hartman, for me, not Schmaltz, not a still-unproved Kahun, Forsling, or Forsberg....

Time to stop pining for Danault, I think.

- StLBravesFan


That trade along with Seabrook's contract were the biggest mistakes SB has made I think. I understand the reason for this trade but it goes back to the relationhip Bowman and Q had. It almost seemed like they both existed in different bubbles. And that's on Stan. It's his repsonsibility to ensure their is communication and it's probably one reason why Q ultimately lost his gig in Chicago.
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