Not that it mattes but Carolina wanted him to play there.

Either way, don't equate the trade being "blatant" with cap circumvention.
- Slump Buster

Eh, they didn’t really want him to play there though

Eh, they didn’t really want him to play there though
- sbroads24

"Yes we did" - An unenthusiastic Tom Dundon, mumbling while staring at his phone, off in the distance

"Yes we did" - An unenthusiastic Tom Dundon, mumbling while staring at his phone, off in the distance
- TheSabresTaco

He's worse than Melnyk.

He's worse than Melnyk.
- mhp

But how is he compared to Murray?

They trade him and that team buys him out. That's pretty blatant.
- BeadyEyedDouche

They gave up a first round pick. That's insane to unload a contract.

Stralman signing means Risto is 100% gone.

They aren’t going to pay him 4-5 mil to play 3rd pair, and they didn’t trade for Montour to be a 3rd pair RD.

And Bogo is immovable

"Yes we did" - An unenthusiastic Tom Dundon, mumbling while staring at his phone, off in the distance
- TheSabresTaco

He's just pissed he got swindled by that poopty football league.

https://www.si.com/nfl/20...ations-bankruptcy-lawsuit

Stralman signing means Risto is 100% gone.

They aren’t going to pay him 4-5 mil to play 3rd pair, and they didn’t trade for Montour to be a 3rd pair RD.

And Bogo is immovable
- sbroads24

Montour and Risto occupy the same role. I don't see any way around that

Montour and Risto occupy the same role. I don't see any way around that
- jcragcrumple

Oh, no !

Not going to do it.

Toronto paid a 1st rounder to do it, Carolina has to deal with the cap charge this season and next. Fair game in my eyes
- Pegullaville

Agreed. The leafs paid the PRICE. It's not inconceivable that the Leafs regress this year either. The pick could be better than Leafs fans want to believe

Montour and Risto occupy the same role. I don't see any way around that
- jcragcrumple

U don’t see any possible way that they could play Risto with Dahlin and Montour on pair 2 with McCabe???

There is a difference between what YOU would do,
and what the Sabres COULD do

Just saying

They gave up a first round pick. That's insane to unload a contract.
- Wetbandit1

When you think about it they essentially paid a first to keep one of their good players. I'd give up at least a first to lose Okposo as his cap figure would get us a good player.

U don’t see any possible way that they could play Risto with Dahlin and Montour on pair 2 with McCabe???

There is a difference between what YOU would do,
and what the Sabres COULD do

Just saying
- jdfitz77

Of course they could, and it's possible that Krueger even wants to do that. Maybe Krueger thinks he can make Risto a responsible balanced defenseman.

I personally think Risto is an offensive defenseman who should get more o zone starts to maximize his potential. He's better suited to pair 2. I think he and Montour are very similar in terms of being PP, 2nd pair RHD guys.

Neither one should play with Dahlin IMO, nor should Bogo. And I definitely won't be happy to see Risto go; I've loved watching him play. But montour makes him redundant, and if we can get offensive help in exchange for him, we should

Agreed. The leafs paid the PRICE. It's not inconceivable that the Leafs regress this year either. The pick could be better than Leafs fans want to believe
- jcragcrumple

I think we pay the PRICE every (frank)ing day reading each other's opinions on this (frank)ing website

I think we pay the PRICE every (frank)ing day reading each other's opinions on this (frank)ing website
- TheSabresTaco

Murrgatory

I think we pay the PRICE every (frank)ing day reading each other's opinions on this (frank)ing website
- TheSabresTaco

Suck it, TacoBeady

Of course they could, and it's possible that Krueger even wants to do that. Maybe Krueger thinks he can make Risto a responsible balanced defenseman.

I personally think Risto is an offensive defenseman who should get more o zone starts to maximize his potential. He's better suited to pair 2. I think he and Montour are very similar in terms of being PP, 2nd pair RHD guys.

Neither one should play with Dahlin IMO, nor should Bogo. And I definitely won't be happy to see Risto go; I've loved watching him play. But montour makes him redundant, and if we can get offensive help in exchange for him, we should
- jcragcrumple

I’m 50/50 on it

If we trade Risto then it better be for a really good player (even if we have to add)
*no more StL trades please

But if we keep him, then i do wanna see him play with Dahlin. Bc if he can make Bogo look decent,
then maybe playing with Dahlin can help Risto’s consistency
There’s been games where he’s looked really great against top competition (Caps & Tampa specifically come to mind... probably why Tampa is interested in him)
So while Risto might be best used as u say,
I’m still holding out hope that he’s more than that

I think we pay the PRICE every (frank)ing day reading each other's opinions on this (frank)ing website
- TheSabresTaco

And yet... here you are.

I’m 50/50 on it

If we trade Risto then it better be for a really good player (even if we have to add)
*no more StL trades please

But if we keep him, then i do wanna see him play with Dahlin. Bc if he can make Bogo look decent,
then maybe playing with Dahlin can help Risto’s consistency
There’s been games where he’s looked really great against top competition (Caps & Tampa specifically come to mind... probably why Tampa is interested in him)
So while Risto might be best used as u say,
I’m still holding out hope that he’s more than that
- jdfitz77

Idk, I think we should stop trying to make Risto something he isn't. He's an offensive defenseman imo. If the sabres were going to move Montour then I would understand his place here, but that's not going to happen.

Of course if the trade market for Risto is pure poop, then they need to keep him

And yet... here you are.
- Wetbandit1

Nerd

I’m 50/50 on it

If we trade Risto then it better be for a really good player (even if we have to add)
*no more StL trades please

But if we keep him, then i do wanna see him play with Dahlin. Bc if he can make Bogo look decent,
then maybe playing with Dahlin can help Risto’s consistency
There’s been games where he’s looked really great against top competition (Caps & Tampa specifically come to mind... probably why Tampa is interested in him)
So while Risto might be best used as u say,
I’m still holding out hope that he’s more than that
- jdfitz77

It would make it easier to move on from Risto.

Stralman is to Dahlin what Tallinder was to Myers
- jcragcrumple

Short?

Idk, I think we should stop trying to make Risto something he isn't. He's an offensive defenseman imo. If the sabres were going to move Montour then I would understand his place here, but that's not going to happen.

Of course if the trade market for Risto is pure poop, then they need to keep him
- jcragcrumple

The guy has played with pretty mediocre partners his whole career
Who’s his best been? McCabe?

And on a team that’s constantly caved in,
with below average goaltending

Even playing a guy who is good defensively that much will result in bad numbers

I’ve seen him dominate the best competition at times
That’s cause for hope that he can do it more consistently

And yet... here you are.
- Wetbandit1

I'm a masochist by definition of my fandom. I (frank)ing love everyone here.

The guy has played with pretty mediocre partners his whole career
Who’s his best been? McCabe?

And on a team that’s constantly caved in,
with below average goaltending

Even playing a guy who is good defensively that much will result in bad numbers

I’ve seen him dominate the best competition at times
That’s cause for hope that he can do it more consistently
- jdfitz77

I don't think we should expect him to be suddenly good defensively. I think we should maximize his offensive instincts. I know he's big and tough, but he's closer to Karlsson than Chara imo. I just don't see that role here with Montour. But maybe Krueger sees it like you do. We shall see