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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:42 PM ET
He is worth finding out

He gets a bigger role in Vegas than he got in Minny and ends up playing almost 4 minutes more a game and getting PP time and he turns into a top 6 forward

- Stripes77

To be fair that Vegas season in 17-18 is absolutely full of career years from about everyone
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:45 PM ET
He is worth finding out

He gets a bigger role in Vegas than he got in Minny and ends up playing almost 4 minutes more a game and getting PP time and he turns into a top 6 forward

- Stripes77


Vegas must not have thought he was worth that much to get just a prospect who was a 4th rounder w/ production similar to Nylander.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:47 PM ET
I'd still go after Vesey
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:47 PM ET
Vegas must not have thought he was worth that much to get just a prospect who was a 4th rounder w/ production similar to Nylander.
- MillerTime3011



Vegas is in a position where they have to sell off players

He was a big part of their cup run

He was hurt most of last season
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 26 @ 11:48 PM ET
To be fair that Vegas season in 17-18 is absolutely full of career years from about everyone
- sbroads24


N. Roy had 36 points in 69 games in the A which puts him roughly comparable to Nylander's 31p in 49. I'd probably have made that trade
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:00 AM ET
N. Roy had 36 points in 69 games in the A which puts him roughly comparable to Nylander's 31p in 49. I'd probably have made that trade
- jcragcrumple


That's where I am at

Low risk, high reward.

Could have been our next Skinner or at worst been another Sheary type
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 12:01 AM ET
Okay the Haula trade has me getting annoyed now
- Stripes77


Why
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:03 AM ET
Why
- gerbe75pts


Read the rest of my posts

If you could have gotten him for Nylander (I know you love him but he is useless)

He can play 2C or 2LW both a position of need

He showed before his injury that with more ice time and PP time he is a productive player.

Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jun 27 @ 12:03 AM ET
https://www.spectorshockey.net/2019/06/will-david-krejci-become-a-cap-casualty-in-boston/
- homiedclown



Ok. So if it’s a bit of a cap dump what’s his value? He’d be a perfect fit...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:06 AM ET
That's where I am at

Low risk, high reward.

Could have been our next Skinner or at worst been another Sheary type

- Stripes77

Eh. Definitely not Skinner.

He had two solid wingers in Neal and Perron. (Neal is steadily declining)

I’d have done it but not for Nylander
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 12:07 AM ET
Read the rest of my posts

If you could have gotten him for Nylander (I know you love him but he is useless)

He can play 2C or 2LW both a position of need

He showed before his injury that with more ice time and PP time he is a productive player.

- Stripes77


I get he’s a solid player but botts is probably just trying to land another skinner type move
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 12:07 AM ET
Vegas is in a position where they have to sell off players

He was a big part of their cup run

He was hurt most of last season

- Stripes77


So you want to trade a #7 overall and our “best” RW prospect for a 2.9M rental who is coming off missing an entire season because he had 1 flash in a pan season?

I’m not biting. Just like Miller for a 2020 1st. Nah.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:08 AM ET
Eh. Definitely not Skinner.

He had two solid wingers in Neal and Perron. (Neal is steadily declining)

I’d have done it but not for Nylander

- sbroads24



I didn't mean like Skinner production but more like our Skinner deal from last year

Play him on the wing or center with Mitts and Reinhart and I would say he is a 45-55 point player
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:11 AM ET
So you want to trade a #7 overall and our “best” RW prospect for a 2.9M rental who is coming off missing an entire season because he had 1 flash in a pan season?

I’m not biting. Just like Miller for a 2020 1st. Nah.

- MillerTime3011



Nylander has bust written all over him

The guy Haula was traded for has similar production in the A and was a 4th round pick

Nylander isn't getting anyone with term left who is going to be a top 6 forward.

I also shown how he wasn't a flash in the pan

He played 4 more minutes per game in Vegas and got PP time

Something he got very little of in Minny

He went from playing 13 mins a night in Minny to 17 in Vegas.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:12 AM ET
Yea I want to see Sobotka on the 2nd line.
- SABRES 89


Who the very first person who came on here & ripped Sobatka?
Oh yeah... it was me... like 2minutes after that sh!tty trade

Also... pretty sure no one even wants him on the roster, let alone line2

Just some more ridiculous exaggeration
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:16 AM ET
Im gonna need someone to post a calendar that highlights the RDD (roster discussion day) when we're allowed to talk about the projected roster for '19-'20
- jcragcrumple


Well it sure it pointless to talk about it NOW

Bc i absolutely guaranteed that EVRY SINGLE TEAM has roster changes between now & opening night

This has been such an idiotic day of crybaby whining bullish!t
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 12:17 AM ET
Nylander has bust written all over him

The guy Haula was traded for has similar production in the A and was a 4th round pick

Nylander isn't getting anyone with term left who is going to be a top 6 forward.

I also shown how he wasn't a flash in the pan

He played 4 more minutes per game in Vegas and got PP time

Something he got very little of in Minny

He went from playing 13 mins a night in Minny to 17 in Vegas.

- Stripes77


I will rephrase. I’d like Haula for a middle 6 guy but I’m not giving up Nylander, Tage, Asplund, VO, etc. I would have done like CJ Smith. That’s probably better A stats than the Roy they got.
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 12:18 AM ET
Well it sure it pointless to talk about it NOW

Bc i absolutely guaranteed that EVRY SINGLE TEAM has roster changes between now & opening night

This has been such an idiotic day of crybaby whining bullish!t

- jdfitz77



“DO SOMETHING JASON”

*Sabres actually were to make a trade*

“Damn it Botts is an idiot. I can’t believe he gave up X for Y. That’s piss poor. I blame Kim for this”


Rinse. Repeat.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:23 AM ET
I will rephrase. I’d like Haula for a middle 6 guy but I’m not giving up Nylander, Tage, Asplund, VO, etc. I would have done like CJ Smith. That’s probably better A stats than the Roy they got.
- MillerTime3011

I’d have moved CJ.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:38 AM ET
Eh. Definitely not Skinner.

He had two solid wingers in Neal and Perron. (Neal is steadily declining)

I’d have done it but not for Nylander

- sbroads24

He is declining? He barely played last year, and they year before he had 53 points
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:45 AM ET
He is declining? He barely played last year, and they year before he had 53 points
- Mentalorgasm5

I mean James Neal
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 12:47 AM ET
“DO SOMETHING JASON”

*Sabres actually were to make a trade*

“Damn it Botts is an idiot. I can’t believe he gave up X for Y. That’s piss poor. I blame Kim for this”


Rinse. Repeat.

- MillerTime3011

They will make trades
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:54 AM ET
One under the radar name I have a feeling we could end up trading for is Bryan Rust. Heard his name a few times floated around and with Bott's connection with the Pens I would not be surprised to see him here. Very fast and could get around 20 goals a year if he played a little more.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:09 AM ET
I think you all are right, and Botterill will make some moves this summer to make it a respectable team come October. But let me run a hypothetical across that doesn't seem crazy to me.

Only minor moves are made this summer: maybe Donskoi and a depth defenseman. Krueger wants to see what he can do with Risto. The team comes out flat, and by mid-november, the team is sunk. Krueger becomes acting GM due to his background in personnel, and Lindy is brought in later, maybe after the season as PoHO

- jcragcrumple


That’s quite the string of “ifs”
But yeah...
something along those lines could be possible
Might not be that short of a timeline though
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:27 AM ET
Our 2020 1st should absolutely be the first part of any trade deal right off the bat, butter up those GMs.
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