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Lemmewinks
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.05.2015

Jun 26 @ 4:13 PM ET
"I’ve mentioned Edmonton three times in a row there on Nyquist, Connolly, and Donskoi. Basically, the Oilers are scouting the market at wing hoping to find one that fits their budget."

- Pierre LeBrun

Well I know who I wouldn’t sign of the three

- RatedR80

I'd be fine with all 3 tbh as long as the deals are reasonable
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:13 PM ET
Damn that Shea Weber cap recapture is nuts.... if he retires today it would be 3.3 mil for 9 years but if he retired before his final season when he is 40 Nashville would be on the hook for 24mil for one season. Basically its 24mil split over how many seasons are left on his deal when he retires.
- Lemmewinks


That’s one I bet Poile wishes he had back
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
I'd be fine with all 3 tbh as long as the deals are reasonable
- Lemmewinks


I was hoping they would trade for Nyquist at the deadline and Donskoi would be a good addition tho due to it being UFA an over payment is certain to happen....I guess I would put Donskoi at the top of the list if I had to pick just one
Lemmewinks
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.05.2015

Jun 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
I was hoping they would trade for Nyquist at the deadline and Donskoi would be a good addition tho due to it being UFA an over payment is certain to happen....I guess I would put Donskoi at the top of the list if I had to pick just one
- RatedR80

I've heard that Connolly is looking for around 4M per
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 26 @ 4:21 PM ET
"I’ve mentioned Edmonton three times in a row there on Nyquist, Connolly, and Donskoi. Basically, the Oilers are scouting the market at wing hoping to find one that fits their budget."

- Pierre LeBrun

Well I know who I wouldn’t sign of the three

- RatedR80

Who?
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:26 PM ET
I've heard that Connolly is looking for around 4M per
- Lemmewinks


Personally I wouldn’t like it and I think last year was the exception to the rule as far as seasons go....would be a decent 3rd-4th line player but we need a top 6 guy....Connolly is not that guy
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
Who?
- RafiDRW


Connolly would be that guy
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
"I’ve mentioned Edmonton three times in a row there on Nyquist, Connolly, and Donskoi. Basically, the Oilers are scouting the market at wing hoping to find one that fits their budget."

- Pierre LeBrun

Well I know who I wouldn’t sign of the three

- RatedR80

I'd take Nyquist on a maximum 5yr deal, Connolly at a maximum 3yr deal and Donskoi on whatever term gets him for the lowest cap hit.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
Personally I wouldn’t like it and I think last year was the exception to the rule as far as seasons go....would be a decent 3rd-4th line player but we need a top 6 guy....Connolly is not that guy
- RatedR80

He'd be an excellent addition if the plan is to use him correctly. He's 37th in the league over the past 3 years in 5-on-5 pts/60 at 2.19 (above names like Backstrom, Kessel, Tarasenko and Hall) so he's not without value. I just don't think he'll be worth what he'll get. One could certainly make the argument that he could act as an offensive driver for a sheltered 3rd line while we piece together the top-6 and that would take some scoring burden off the big three.

However, given our organization's history, I'm sure they're thinking "if he scores 22 on the 3rd line, he'll easily score 30 in the top-6" and with thusly justify a 4.5mil x 5 contract.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:34 PM ET
I'd take Nyquist on a maximum 5yr deal, Connolly at a maximum 3yr deal and Donskoi on whatever term gets him for the lowest cap hit.
- MaximumBone


I have heard zero on Pirri which is kind of surprising actually....that guy is a potential bargain signing in the making and all he wants is to be a full time NHLer
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
He'd be an excellent addition if the plan is to use him correctly. He's 37th in the league over the past 3 years in 5-on-5 pts/60 at 2.19 (above names like Backstrom, Kessel, Tarasenko and Hall) so he's not without value. I just don't think he'll be worth what he'll get. One could certainly make the argument that he could act as an offensive driver for a sheltered 3rd line while we piece together the top-6 and that would take some scoring burden off the big three.

However, given our organization's history, I'm sure they're thinking "if he scores 22 on the 3rd line, he'll easily score 30 in the top-6" and with thusly justify a 4.5mil x 5 contract.

- MaximumBone


You more or less made my case on why I don’t want us to sign him.....it’s going to be an overpay and I doubt he gets 20 again....asking him to be a top 6 guy (which is what would happen if we did sign him as you said based on history) then you are asking for trouble
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:43 PM ET
He'd be an excellent addition if the plan is to use him correctly. He's 37th in the league over the past 3 years in 5-on-5 pts/60 at 2.19 (above names like Backstrom, Kessel, Tarasenko and Hall) so he's not without value. I just don't think he'll be worth what he'll get. One could certainly make the argument that he could act as an offensive driver for a sheltered 3rd line while we piece together the top-6 and that would take some scoring burden off the big three.

However, given our organization's history, I'm sure they're thinking "if he scores 22 on the 3rd line, he'll easily score 30 in the top-6" and with thusly justify a 4.5mil x 5 contract.

- MaximumBone

Worth noting is that Connolly is one of just two players that I can fairly describe as neither an elite scorer or a legit top-6 player within the top-50 in that respect. The other one just so happens to be available as a UFA this year, as well. And for much cheaper, I might add.

If the plan is to offer a contract to an offensive winger that'll drive offense from a sheltered role, then I think we'd do better to give Vanek a shot on a cheaper and shorter term deal. Holland's history with him might help, too.

If I can add Vanek (2mil x 2) and Filppula (2.5 x 1) instead of Connolly, I do that every day. Add Daniel Carr (900k, 1-way deal), a Russell trade (1mil retained), a Gagner buyout (save 2mil) and a Zucker acquisition.

Usual 1st line (power V power)
Benson- Nuge- Zucker (tougher minutes)
Carr- Filppula- Vanek (soft minutes)
Some combo of 4th line (regular 4th line)

That could make for an interesting mix.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:44 PM ET
I have heard zero on Pirri which is kind of surprising actually....that guy is a potential bargain signing in the making and all he wants is to be a full time NHLer
- RatedR80

He has a lot of limitations as an NHLer so I can understand if people are wary of him. However, he'd likely make for a good fit on a butter-soft minutes line.
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Jun 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
He has a lot of limitations as an NHLer so I can understand if people are wary of him. However, he'd likely make for a good fit on a butter-soft minutes line.
- MaximumBone

He's best suited for a super deep team.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
He has a lot of limitations as an NHLer so I can understand if people are wary of him. However, he'd likely make for a good fit on a butter-soft minutes line.
- MaximumBone


My case is simply this....barring a move that frees up cap space we got 9 mil to work with and RNH should be the priority.....so the question is do you squander the resources on a guy that is a productive 3rd line guy or do you go for the legit top 6 option.....now if Holland does free up cap space then sure sign a 3rd line guy but as it stands the money isn’t there....not to mention we need a goalie as well
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Jun 26 @ 5:21 PM ET
Looks like our targets are Mrazec, Tanev, Carr and Connolly
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:46 PM ET
Worth noting is that Connolly is one of just two players that I can fairly describe as neither an elite scorer or a legit top-6 player within the top-50 in that respect. The other one just so happens to be available as a UFA this year, as well. And for much cheaper, I might add.

If the plan is to offer a contract to an offensive winger that'll drive offense from a sheltered role, then I think we'd do better to give Vanek a shot on a cheaper and shorter term deal. Holland's history with him might help, too.

If I can add Vanek (2mil x 2) and Filppula (2.5 x 1) instead of Connolly, I do that every day. Add Daniel Carr (900k, 1-way deal), a Russell trade (1mil retained), a Gagner buyout (save 2mil) and a Zucker acquisition.

Usual 1st line (power V power)
Benson- Nuge- Zucker (tougher minutes)
Carr- Filppula- Vanek (soft minutes)
Some combo of 4th line (regular 4th line)

That could make for an interesting mix.

- MaximumBone

I don’t want Benson playing any tough minutes
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 5:50 PM ET
I don’t want Benson playing any tough minutes
- Ihatebrianburke

Ideally not, but it's not like they're playing elite competition. That's on the 1st line. He's intended as a placeholder there where it could instead be Nygard, Gambardella, Khaira, Currie, etc. Two experienced two-way scorers can carry a newbie to reasonable results against secondary competition.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:02 PM ET
Brightside: we have yet to hear about them pursuing Simmonds. That's an improvement!
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 27 @ 12:43 AM ET
Brightside: we have yet to hear about them pursuing Simmonds. That's an improvement!
- MaximumBone

We need guys that can skate. Slow enough already. He’s gonna get way too much term from someone.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
I hate that we’ve put ourselves in a position where we’re going into year 5 of Connor, while having so many holes, little cap space, multiple anchor deals and not many assets we can afford to deal for big fish because we need to “rebuild” again. Fuking embarrassing

Wishing I lived in a world where we could be in the market for nylander and/or barrie

I loathe peter chiarelli
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 27 @ 11:58 AM ET
I hate that we’ve put ourselves in a position where we’re going into year 5 of Connor, while having so many holes, little cap space, multiple anchor deals and not many assets we can afford to deal for big fish because we need to “rebuild” again. Fuking embarrassing

Wishing I lived in a world where we could be in the market for nylander and/or barrie
So many wasted assets.
I loathe peter chiarelli

- HB77

How long until you think he wants out? I think he’ll be pissed if we miss the playoffs again this year, which is very likely. I don’t think he would demand a trade yet, because he’s a class act. But I think if we miss the next 2 years in a row, Nuge walks, and Connor asks for a trade. And then I would be officially done with this team for good.
Lemmewinks
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
How long until you think he wants out? I think he’ll be pissed if we miss the playoffs again this year, which is very likely. I don’t think he would demand a trade yet, because he’s a class act. But I think if we miss the next 2 years in a row, Nuge walks, and Connor asks for a trade. And then I would be officially done with this team for good.
- Ihatebrianburke

Generally hockey players are very loyal to their teams for some reason. I dont see McDavid asking for a trade but if things dont shape up eventually the team will likely move him to enter rebuild number 100 or he will leave as a free agent.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
How long until you think he wants out? I think he’ll be pissed if we miss the playoffs again this year, which is very likely. I don’t think he would demand a trade yet, because he’s a class act. But I think if we miss the next 2 years in a row, Nuge walks, and Connor asks for a trade. And then I would be officially done with this team for good.
- Ihatebrianburke

Pretty much this


We miss again this year, I think he’ll be planning his exit very seriously. Another 2 and he’s out.
And this is no reflection on his character whatsoever. He’s a fantastic leader and ambassador. All class.

If it came to him finally saying I want out, that would be completely on the Organization (Peter chiarelli specifically, but not solely.
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Jun 27 @ 3:20 PM ET
Suppose it comes down to Connor asking for a trade, what do you ask for in return? Don't say eleventy billion firsts, cuz we ruin picks, so what roster players would you ask for?

Also, Katz would have a shiny new $450m abandoned building
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