Lemmewinks
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 02.05.2015
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"I’ve mentioned Edmonton three times in a row there on Nyquist, Connolly, and Donskoi. Basically, the Oilers are scouting the market at wing hoping to find one that fits their budget."
- Pierre LeBrun
Well I know who I wouldn’t sign of the three - RatedR80
I'd be fine with all 3 tbh as long as the deals are reasonable |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Damn that Shea Weber cap recapture is nuts.... if he retires today it would be 3.3 mil for 9 years but if he retired before his final season when he is 40 Nashville would be on the hook for 24mil for one season. Basically its 24mil split over how many seasons are left on his deal when he retires. - Lemmewinks
That’s one I bet Poile wishes he had back
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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I'd be fine with all 3 tbh as long as the deals are reasonable - Lemmewinks
I was hoping they would trade for Nyquist at the deadline and Donskoi would be a good addition tho due to it being UFA an over payment is certain to happen....I guess I would put Donskoi at the top of the list if I had to pick just one
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Lemmewinks
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 02.05.2015
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I was hoping they would trade for Nyquist at the deadline and Donskoi would be a good addition tho due to it being UFA an over payment is certain to happen....I guess I would put Donskoi at the top of the list if I had to pick just one - RatedR80
I've heard that Connolly is looking for around 4M per |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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"I’ve mentioned Edmonton three times in a row there on Nyquist, Connolly, and Donskoi. Basically, the Oilers are scouting the market at wing hoping to find one that fits their budget."
- Pierre LeBrun
Well I know who I wouldn’t sign of the three - RatedR80
Who? |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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I've heard that Connolly is looking for around 4M per - Lemmewinks
Personally I wouldn’t like it and I think last year was the exception to the rule as far as seasons go....would be a decent 3rd-4th line player but we need a top 6 guy....Connolly is not that guy
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Who? - RafiDRW
Connolly would be that guy |
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"I’ve mentioned Edmonton three times in a row there on Nyquist, Connolly, and Donskoi. Basically, the Oilers are scouting the market at wing hoping to find one that fits their budget."
- Pierre LeBrun
Well I know who I wouldn’t sign of the three - RatedR80
I'd take Nyquist on a maximum 5yr deal, Connolly at a maximum 3yr deal and Donskoi on whatever term gets him for the lowest cap hit. |
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Personally I wouldn’t like it and I think last year was the exception to the rule as far as seasons go....would be a decent 3rd-4th line player but we need a top 6 guy....Connolly is not that guy - RatedR80
He'd be an excellent addition if the plan is to use him correctly. He's 37th in the league over the past 3 years in 5-on-5 pts/60 at 2.19 (above names like Backstrom, Kessel, Tarasenko and Hall) so he's not without value. I just don't think he'll be worth what he'll get. One could certainly make the argument that he could act as an offensive driver for a sheltered 3rd line while we piece together the top-6 and that would take some scoring burden off the big three.
However, given our organization's history, I'm sure they're thinking "if he scores 22 on the 3rd line, he'll easily score 30 in the top-6" and with thusly justify a 4.5mil x 5 contract. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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I'd take Nyquist on a maximum 5yr deal, Connolly at a maximum 3yr deal and Donskoi on whatever term gets him for the lowest cap hit. - MaximumBone
I have heard zero on Pirri which is kind of surprising actually....that guy is a potential bargain signing in the making and all he wants is to be a full time NHLer
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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He'd be an excellent addition if the plan is to use him correctly. He's 37th in the league over the past 3 years in 5-on-5 pts/60 at 2.19 (above names like Backstrom, Kessel, Tarasenko and Hall) so he's not without value. I just don't think he'll be worth what he'll get. One could certainly make the argument that he could act as an offensive driver for a sheltered 3rd line while we piece together the top-6 and that would take some scoring burden off the big three.
However, given our organization's history, I'm sure they're thinking "if he scores 22 on the 3rd line, he'll easily score 30 in the top-6" and with thusly justify a 4.5mil x 5 contract. - MaximumBone
You more or less made my case on why I don’t want us to sign him.....it’s going to be an overpay and I doubt he gets 20 again....asking him to be a top 6 guy (which is what would happen if we did sign him as you said based on history) then you are asking for trouble
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He'd be an excellent addition if the plan is to use him correctly. He's 37th in the league over the past 3 years in 5-on-5 pts/60 at 2.19 (above names like Backstrom, Kessel, Tarasenko and Hall) so he's not without value. I just don't think he'll be worth what he'll get. One could certainly make the argument that he could act as an offensive driver for a sheltered 3rd line while we piece together the top-6 and that would take some scoring burden off the big three.
However, given our organization's history, I'm sure they're thinking "if he scores 22 on the 3rd line, he'll easily score 30 in the top-6" and with thusly justify a 4.5mil x 5 contract. - MaximumBone
Worth noting is that Connolly is one of just two players that I can fairly describe as neither an elite scorer or a legit top-6 player within the top-50 in that respect. The other one just so happens to be available as a UFA this year, as well. And for much cheaper, I might add.
If the plan is to offer a contract to an offensive winger that'll drive offense from a sheltered role, then I think we'd do better to give Vanek a shot on a cheaper and shorter term deal. Holland's history with him might help, too.
If I can add Vanek (2mil x 2) and Filppula (2.5 x 1) instead of Connolly, I do that every day. Add Daniel Carr (900k, 1-way deal), a Russell trade (1mil retained), a Gagner buyout (save 2mil) and a Zucker acquisition.
Usual 1st line (power V power)
Benson- Nuge- Zucker (tougher minutes)
Carr- Filppula- Vanek (soft minutes)
Some combo of 4th line (regular 4th line)
That could make for an interesting mix. |
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I have heard zero on Pirri which is kind of surprising actually....that guy is a potential bargain signing in the making and all he wants is to be a full time NHLer - RatedR80
He has a lot of limitations as an NHLer so I can understand if people are wary of him. However, he'd likely make for a good fit on a butter-soft minutes line. |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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He has a lot of limitations as an NHLer so I can understand if people are wary of him. However, he'd likely make for a good fit on a butter-soft minutes line. - MaximumBone
He's best suited for a super deep team. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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He has a lot of limitations as an NHLer so I can understand if people are wary of him. However, he'd likely make for a good fit on a butter-soft minutes line. - MaximumBone
My case is simply this....barring a move that frees up cap space we got 9 mil to work with and RNH should be the priority.....so the question is do you squander the resources on a guy that is a productive 3rd line guy or do you go for the legit top 6 option.....now if Holland does free up cap space then sure sign a 3rd line guy but as it stands the money isn’t there....not to mention we need a goalie as well
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Looks like our targets are Mrazec, Tanev, Carr and Connolly |
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Worth noting is that Connolly is one of just two players that I can fairly describe as neither an elite scorer or a legit top-6 player within the top-50 in that respect. The other one just so happens to be available as a UFA this year, as well. And for much cheaper, I might add.
If the plan is to offer a contract to an offensive winger that'll drive offense from a sheltered role, then I think we'd do better to give Vanek a shot on a cheaper and shorter term deal. Holland's history with him might help, too.
If I can add Vanek (2mil x 2) and Filppula (2.5 x 1) instead of Connolly, I do that every day. Add Daniel Carr (900k, 1-way deal), a Russell trade (1mil retained), a Gagner buyout (save 2mil) and a Zucker acquisition.
Usual 1st line (power V power)
Benson- Nuge- Zucker (tougher minutes)
Carr- Filppula- Vanek (soft minutes)
Some combo of 4th line (regular 4th line)
That could make for an interesting mix. - MaximumBone
I don’t want Benson playing any tough minutes |
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I don’t want Benson playing any tough minutes - Ihatebrianburke
Ideally not, but it's not like they're playing elite competition. That's on the 1st line. He's intended as a placeholder there where it could instead be Nygard, Gambardella, Khaira, Currie, etc. Two experienced two-way scorers can carry a newbie to reasonable results against secondary competition. |
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Brightside: we have yet to hear about them pursuing Simmonds. That's an improvement! |
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Brightside: we have yet to hear about them pursuing Simmonds. That's an improvement! - MaximumBone
We need guys that can skate. Slow enough already. He’s gonna get way too much term from someone. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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I hate that we’ve put ourselves in a position where we’re going into year 5 of Connor, while having so many holes, little cap space, multiple anchor deals and not many assets we can afford to deal for big fish because we need to “rebuild” again. Fuking embarrassing
Wishing I lived in a world where we could be in the market for nylander and/or barrie
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I hate that we’ve put ourselves in a position where we’re going into year 5 of Connor, while having so many holes, little cap space, multiple anchor deals and not many assets we can afford to deal for big fish because we need to “rebuild” again. Fuking embarrassing
Wishing I lived in a world where we could be in the market for nylander and/or barrie
So many wasted assets.
I loathe peter chiarelli - HB77
How long until you think he wants out? I think he’ll be pissed if we miss the playoffs again this year, which is very likely. I don’t think he would demand a trade yet, because he’s a class act. But I think if we miss the next 2 years in a row, Nuge walks, and Connor asks for a trade. And then I would be officially done with this team for good. |
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Lemmewinks
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 02.05.2015
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How long until you think he wants out? I think he’ll be pissed if we miss the playoffs again this year, which is very likely. I don’t think he would demand a trade yet, because he’s a class act. But I think if we miss the next 2 years in a row, Nuge walks, and Connor asks for a trade. And then I would be officially done with this team for good. - Ihatebrianburke
Generally hockey players are very loyal to their teams for some reason. I dont see McDavid asking for a trade but if things dont shape up eventually the team will likely move him to enter rebuild number 100 or he will leave as a free agent. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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How long until you think he wants out? I think he’ll be pissed if we miss the playoffs again this year, which is very likely. I don’t think he would demand a trade yet, because he’s a class act. But I think if we miss the next 2 years in a row, Nuge walks, and Connor asks for a trade. And then I would be officially done with this team for good. - Ihatebrianburke
Pretty much this
We miss again this year, I think he’ll be planning his exit very seriously. Another 2 and he’s out.
And this is no reflection on his character whatsoever. He’s a fantastic leader and ambassador. All class.
If it came to him finally saying I want out, that would be completely on the Organization (Peter chiarelli specifically, but not solely. |
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ChonDerry
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Location: Bedlamton, AB Joined: 04.06.2016
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Suppose it comes down to Connor asking for a trade, what do you ask for in return? Don't say eleventy billion firsts, cuz we ruin picks, so what roster players would you ask for?
Also, Katz would have a shiny new $450m abandoned building |
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