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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:17 AM ET
Reports of Aho only being offered 6M on a 8yr deal from CAR.

What type of offer sheet would makes Dundon blink and think about taking the comp and not matching the deal?

- Sabre_Tooth



9-10 mil.

They’re lowballing him as he doesn’t have arb rights.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:18 AM ET
Again kinda.

That trade effected the landscape of the NHL.

For instance, Edmonton use the 91 pick for Martin Rucinsky, who was then moved to Colorado for Tugnutt, and then moved from Colorado to Montreal as part of the package for ......


You guessed it, Patrick Roy.

Any trade of getting Point is going to put under a microscope harder than the ROR move IMO. This is for anyone thinking of moving 4 1st or Risto, Mitts, plus.

- dadeadhead


Of course a trade for Point would be discussed like crazy
He’s a really good player, and we’d be giving up a lot for him either way

I really don’t see why u keep trying to tie Gretzky to it though
Really has nothing to do with the deal

And everything you’re talking about is crap that is or the local media might say
Doesn’t affect what happens on the ice with Point here

So again...
Mitts + what?
Would u rather give up Risto,
or the four 1sts?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:20 AM ET
Reports of Aho only being offered 6M on a 8yr deal from CAR.

What type of offer sheet would makes Dundon blink and think about taking the comp and not matching the deal?

- Sabre_Tooth


10mil at least I’d think

I get negotiating...
but that’s a pretty severe low ball offer
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:26 AM ET
Of course a trade for Point would be discussed like crazy
He’s a really good player, and we’d be giving up a lot for him either way

I really don’t see why u keep trying to tie Gretzky to it though
Really has nothing to do with the deal

And everything you’re talking about is crap that is or the local media might say
Doesn’t affect what happens on the ice with Point here

So again...
Mitts + what?
Would u rather give up Risto,
or the four 1sts?

- jdfitz77


I’d honestly not get him at all to be truthful.

When that 92 point becomes 5 yrs of 65-70 all you’ll hear is b!tch, b!tch, b!tch....

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:28 AM ET
The issue I would have giving up the 4 1sts for Point would be that Tampa would still have a better team overall than Buffalo and they are getting our picks.
Would be different for someone out West maybe, but a trade like that within the division would be a bad decision.
Now if it was something like Mitts, Nylander, Thompson and a 1st, that would be something I could get on board with. It's like they're getting 4 1sts anyway.
Slapjackzack
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.02.2016

Jun 26 @ 1:30 AM ET
The issue I would have giving up the 4 1sts for Point would be that Tampa would still have a better team overall than Buffalo and they are getting our picks.
Would be different for someone out West maybe, but a trade like that within the division would be a bad decision.
Now if it was something like Mitts, Nylander, Thompson and a 1st, that would be something I could get on board with. It's like they're getting 4 1sts anyway.

- adambuffalo
take mitts out some how i would be fine
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:32 AM ET
Ryan Hartman got released by Dallas this guy must have the pooptiest attitude holy crap lol
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:34 AM ET
Fruite belt isnt lackawanna, its down by the medical campus, there are fruit streets in lackawanna though
- Mentalorgasm5


That's what I thought, but it's been almost 20 years since I've been down there. My uncle wanted to buy rental property, and he was disabused of that notion pretty quickly. I just remember Plum, and it was bad.

Judging by the street view, the Lackawanna area is rough too.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:35 AM ET
Why no upl at development camp????
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:38 AM ET
Why no upl at development camp????
- gordong

Surgery remember
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:39 AM ET
9-10 mil.

They’re lowballing him as he doesn’t have arb rights.

- dadeadhead


The fact that it came out so quickly has to mean they're really pissed off about that.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:40 AM ET
Surgery remember
- gerbe75pts


He should suck it up.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:41 AM ET
Ryan Hartman got released by Dallas this guy must have the pooptiest attitude holy crap lol
- gerbe75pts

He didn't get tendered, but they are still trying to sign him. Same thing with Vancouver and Hutton.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:41 AM ET
I’d honestly not get him at all to be truthful.

When that 92 point becomes 5 yrs of 65-70 all you’ll hear is b!tch, b!tch, b!tch....

- dadeadhead


I don’t think he’d dip that low here
I’d play Sam with him & look to find a LW long term
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:46 AM ET
take mitts out some how i would be fine
- Slapjackzack


I’d be very comfortable trading Mitts + for Point
Especially since we just drafted Cozens

Eichel, Point, Cozens as our Top3 centers going forward
That’s gonna be pretty tough to match up against
Just gotta build around them
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:48 AM ET
I don’t think he’d dip that low here
I’d play Sam with him & look to find a LW long term

- jdfitz77



Unless you get him rather inexpensive I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:51 AM ET
Unless you get him rather inexpensive I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole.
- dadeadhead


Building with Eichel, Mitts & Cozens down the middle is good too
But i think Point is legit

Who would u like to see us target?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:53 AM ET
Sure...
but it just goes to show that NO ONE has ever given up 4 picks in the 1st
Not even for the best player ever

And why???
Bc it’s a bad freaking idea

Mitts + four 1sts
Or
Mitts + Risto

The 2nd option is WAY BETTER

- jdfitz77

The 2nd option doesnt come close to getting you point.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:21 AM ET
The 2nd option doesnt come close to getting you point.
- Mentalorgasm5


Idk about that?

They obviously think highly of Risto,
supposedly offered a 1st + Foote

Hell...
Mitts plus just the Cap Space is a huge return

I doubt they’d trade Point anyways
But getting back a Top4 RH defenseman who they clearly value,
plus a young player with AT LEAST a ceiling of a very good 2C...

That kinda seems like EXACTLY what Tampa would ask for
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:56 AM ET
Idk about that?

They obviously think highly of Risto,
supposedly offered a 1st + Foote

Hell...
Mitts plus just the Cap Space is a huge return

I doubt they’d trade Point anyways
But getting back a Top4 RH defenseman who they clearly value,
plus a young player with AT LEAST a ceiling of a very good 2C...

That kinda seems like EXACTLY what Tampa would ask for

- jdfitz77


Doubt they offered that for Risto.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:02 AM ET
Doubt they offered that for Risto.
- dadeadhead


I think that’s what LeBrun said
Pretty respectable source there
Slapjackzack
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.02.2016

Jun 26 @ 3:06 AM ET
I’d be very comfortable trading Mitts + for Point
Especially since we just drafted Cozens

Eichel, Point, Cozens as our Top3 centers going forward
That’s gonna be pretty tough to match up against
Just gotta build around them

- jdfitz77

Mitts as winger
Slapjackzack
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.02.2016

Jun 26 @ 3:07 AM ET
Mitts as winger
- Slapjackzack

Risto probably be better rw than a rd but that's just me.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:08 AM ET
Mitts as winger
- Slapjackzack


Sure...
but how the heck do we get Point without him?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:12 AM ET
Idk about that?

They obviously think highly of Risto,
supposedly offered a 1st + Foote

Hell...
Mitts plus just the Cap Space is a huge return

I doubt they’d trade Point anyways
But getting back a Top4 RH defenseman who they clearly value,
plus a young player with AT LEAST a ceiling of a very good 2C...

That kinda seems like EXACTLY what Tampa would ask for

- jdfitz77


No way to Casey and Risto get you a 23 year old center that netted 92 points. Trade wouldnt be considered by Tampa.
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