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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: What would you do if Sabres GM Jason Botterill made minimal (or no) moves?
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:22 PM ET
Doesn’t that affect their Cap for next year though?

They won’t have room for that
I think that’s why there are reports they wanna move Clarkson
If they was no penalty, then why give up an asset to move him???

- jdfitz77



Clarkson is a UFA next year.

You can go over the cap by 10% in the off-season but....

You have to be cap compliant once the season starts. Can’t LTIR until the season starts so Clarkson counts for a day. They have to move him with a piece to get cap compliant.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 8:24 PM ET
Enough acid or mushrooms and you definitely see the future.
- dadeadhead

Nah my brother, you don't see the future, you feel the future. We're living it it, man.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:24 PM ET
Yeah, I dont believe there is a penalty.

I dont think Clarkson will be in a move. It will be someone like Miller, or maybe Miller and Eakin/Haula.

Horton, Dats and company never gave their respected teams any penalty

- Mentalorgasm5


I think there’s only a penalty if it causes you to exceed the Cap

ARZ definitely didn’t have to worry about that with Datsyuk
And if there was no type of penalty the following year, why would Detroit have needed to move him?

Maybe that’s not right
Just thought i heard/read it somewhere

Otherwise...
Vegas would have no need to move Clarkson at all & those rumors would’ve made no sense
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:24 PM ET
Why did that guy bag on Depew a few pages back? I thought we all agreed that Lockport was the phantom zone. I live in Depew and love it. I’m offended.
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:24 PM ET
Then take it up with Pachla, who wrote a blog on that topic
- jcragcrumple


I think your multiple posts say that the way you'd react is by losing your mind. Could've just said that and did something else with your day.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 8:24 PM ET
Why did that guy bag on Depew a few pages back? I thought we all agreed that Lockport was the phantom zone. I live in Depew and love it. I’m offended.
- Khmylev

He has probably never been to Cockport.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:25 PM ET
Clarkson is a UFA next year.
- dadeadhead


I know
Did u read my previous post?

We were talking about whether or not there’s any Cap ramifications for the following season if a team uses LTIR to go “over the Cap” for this season

EDIT
i saw your edit
That makes sense then
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:26 PM ET
He has probably never been to Cockport.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Sticky Sockport
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:26 PM ET
Nah my brother, you don't see the future, you feel the future. We're living it it, man.
- BeadyEyedDouche



Oh no, you definitely think you can see the future at times.


I’ve done enough acid to supply a nice sized music festival for a weekend.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:28 PM ET
I know
Did u read my previous post?

We were talking about whether or not there’s any Cap ramifications for the following season if a team uses LTIR to go “over the Cap” for this season

EDIT
i saw your edit
That makes sense then

- jdfitz77



This is why you see teams move a young piece out with a guy like Clarkson.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 25 @ 8:29 PM ET
My, my, my how some of you miss the point but come so close. Tage Thompsons all over this board.

It's not that anyone thinks he has done "nothing", it's that, well, he has in fact, done nothing. And that's just it. Free agency is going to severely disappoint the lot of you, I'm afraid.

- BeadyEyedDouche


And that's the heart of the matter. Why should anyone be ok with Botterill doing nothing?
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 8:29 PM ET
Oh no, you definitely think you can see the future at times.


I’ve done enough acid to supply a nice sized music festival for a weekend.

- dadeadhead

You and me both, not even kidding lol, maybe a small music festival for me
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:30 PM ET
This is why you see teams move a young piece out with a guy like Clarkson.
- dadeadhead


I’d be cool if Botts made a move like that
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:30 PM ET
I think there’s only a penalty if it causes you to exceed the Cap

ARZ definitely didn’t have to worry about that with Datsyuk
And if there was no type of penalty the following year, why would Detroit have needed to move him?

Maybe that’s not right
Just thought i heard/read it somewhere

Otherwise...
Vegas would have no need to move Clarkson at all & those rumors would’ve made no sense

- jdfitz77

As deadhead said no penalty. Toronto would have received for going over
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 8:31 PM ET
And that's the basis of the premise. Why should anyone be ok with Botterill doing nothing?
- jcragcrumple

They shouldn't. And that's all that matters. Just like getting good players on the Sabres.

We are not going to land a big name FA unless we massively overpay, and watch it be Duchene for 7 years at 10.5 million.

Realistically, we are going to have to make a couple of trades. But we have only a couple of real trade chips. Ristolainen, Reinhart, and maybe McCabe. And Reinhart is almost certainly not going anywhere, and he shouldn't.

So who knows.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:32 PM ET
You and me both, not even kidding lol, maybe a small music festival for me
- BeadyEyedDouche



There was a time in the late 90’s early 00’s if you had liquid acid, you probably got it from us.

OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:33 PM ET
They shouldn't. And that's all that matters. Just like getting good players on the Sabres.

We are not going to land a big name FA unless we massively overpay, and watch it be Duchene for 7 years at 10.5 million.

Realistically, we are going to have to make a couple of trades. But we have only a couple of real trade chips. Ristolainen, Reinhart, and maybe McCabe. And Reinhart is almost certainly not going anywhere, and he shouldn't.

So who knows.

- BeadyEyedDouche

9/10 times that’s a good thing.
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:34 PM ET
Everything after pick 15 from 2019-2008. With a few outliers
- jcragcrumple


You do realize Botts overhauled the scouting department, right? Its a little early to grade his drafts. This is the time to grade Darcy and Murray drafts.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 8:38 PM ET
There was a time in the late 90’s early 00’s if you had liquid acid, you probably got it from us.


- dadeadhead

hmm, well, never got liquid honestly, but windowpane is amazing
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:38 PM ET
You do realize Botts overhauled the scouting department, right? Its a little early to grade his drafts. This is the time to grade Darcy and Murray drafts.
- Frizzlefry



You going to see Claypool at Art Park?
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 8:39 PM ET
9/10 times that’s a good thing.
- OneKaneOneCup

Okposo, Leino, were not big names.

I'm talking Stamkos level give or take. And no, that's not a good thing.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:40 PM ET
hmm, well, never got liquid honestly, but windowpane is amazing
- BeadyEyedDouche



Sugar cube or gummy bear with a hit on it?


dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:41 PM ET
Okposo, Leino, were not big names.

I'm talking Stamkos level give or take. And no, that's not a good thing.

- BeadyEyedDouche



Okposo was a top 3-5 UFA the offseason he was signed
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:42 PM ET
Miracles do happen 😂😂😂
- jdfitz77


If by miracles you mean the Sabres drafting the first overall pick in 2020? This team is closer than ever before.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:45 PM ET
Simmonds wants a long term deal, can't see him getting a long term deal.
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