Ya I’m thinking term is sticking point.

Leafs want 3 year or 6 year.

Marner wants 4 or 5 year.

Marner doesn’t want 8 because it would probably be a bargain come 5-8 years.

And leafs don’t want to walk him to ufa at 4 and 5.
- bryant

Which all points to a settlement at 10.25 x 6 or so. No one really happy or mad.

Respectfully disagree. Preds already showing signs of decline, Rinne not what he was, gave away PK for a pack of smokes, Josi a UFA next year. It doesn't take long for a good run to end.
- winsix

They'll be far from a lottery team.

They'll be far from a lottery team.
- JohnFergusonJr

They just need to miss the playoffs once. Lou will rig the draft lottery again. Wait... oh

Which all points to a settlement at 10.25 x 6 or so. No one really happy or mad.
- aminnes

I’ll be mad.

Which all points to a settlement at 10.25 x 6 or so. No one really happy or mad.
- aminnes

Seems about right, but people are always mad

Whatever happens, the Leafs won't cave at 5 years and have his contract up along side Matthews'.

BREAKING : leafs sign RFA Mitch Mrner to 6 year deal aav 9.65mil .. more to come in a few weeks

They'll be far from a lottery team.
- JohnFergusonJr

No way to say that and state it as a fact. We don't know for sure.

Rinne is 35, has had some adventures in goal, do they re-sign him at 37? Is the backup any good?

Ryan Johansen is a very good hockey player - is he really worth $8 million for 14 goals and 64 points? And he was their top scorer!

Seems about right, but people are always mad

Whatever happens, the Leafs won't cave at 5 years and have his contract up along side Matthews'.
- RickJames77

Exactly. And if that means another .500 a year, I think they do that.

BREAKING : leafs sign RFA Mitch Mrner to 6 year deal aav 9.65mil .. more to come in a few weeks
- Puck-us-all

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- .HOHO.

No way to say that and state it as a fact. We don't know for sure.

Rinne is 35, has had some adventures in goal, do they re-sign him at 37? Is the backup any good?

Ryan Johansen is a very good hockey player - is he really worth $8 million for 14 goals and 64 points? And he was their top scorer!
- winsix

They are still a solid team for a few more years. Not a bad enough future to expect to replace Marner with one of those picks.

Yes, Sarros is good and so is Rinne, had better numbers than Andersen.

How much better is Johansen with Marner beside him?

OK seriously.... FFS

We offered him $80MM plus another $16MM to $24MM in endorsement money and that isn't enough for a guy coming off his ELC?

Seriously?
- .HOHO.

UH?
where the hell does it say he was offered any endorsement money?
Plus no hockey player makes anywhere close to 16 -24MM in endorsements.

BREAKING : leafs sign RFA Mitch Mrner to 6 year deal aav 9.65mil .. more to come in a few weeks
- Puck-us-all

Great. I'm giving Kyle a call right now to confirm...... Anyone got his cell# handy?

Seems about right, but people are always mad

Whatever happens, the Leafs won't cave at 5 years and have his contract up along side Matthews'.
- RickJames77

5 years isn't ideal but there's nothing to be scared of.... Summer of 2024 the Leafs with more than 30 million to spend on whatever they want. Nice.....

They are still a solid team for a few more years. Not a bad enough future to expect to replace Marner with one of those picks.

Yes, Sarros is good and so is Rinne, had better numbers than Andersen.

How much better is Johansen with Marner beside him?
- JohnFergusonJr

How much you think he makes in endorsements in Nashville compared to T.O.? I don't know either but it's a factor.

How much you think he makes in endorsements in Nashville compared to T.O.? I don't know either but it's a factor.
- The Law

Subban was still in commercials playing in Nashville.

If you don't know how can you say it's a factor?

They are still a solid team for a few more years. Not a bad enough future to expect to replace Marner with one of those picks.

Yes, Sarros is good and so is Rinne, had better numbers than Andersen.

How much better is Johansen with Marner beside him?
- JohnFergusonJr

I say they are playing with fire if they make that deal, knowing that the Weber issue will be hanging over their heads. Note that he will make $6 million in salary (bonus money all gone) for 3 more years. After that it goes to $3 million for one year and down to $1 million for the last 3 seasons. I would say there is a strong possibility he retires at age 37 or so. This is not trivial we are talking a $30 million cap hit over 4 seasons.

UH?
where the hell does it say he was offered any endorsement money?
Plus no hockey player makes anywhere close to 16 -24MM in endorsements.
- Fakepartofme

Not true my friend. The best (see Forbes and other sources) earn about 4 milly in endorsements annually. So over 8 years thats 32 million.

5 years isn't ideal but there's nothing to be scared of.... Summer of 2024 the Leafs with more than 30 million to spend on whatever they want. Nice.....
- The Law

Just not happy that he and AM after 5 years may plan something nasty against the Leafs... like moving on together.

Subban was still in commercials playing in Nashville.

If you don't know how can you say it's a factor?
- JohnFergusonJr

LOL ....ugh, it's a factor ...for him, not you and I in this meaningful discussion.

live shot of paul marner after hearing the leafs latest offer:


- Tumbleweed

😂

I say they are playing with fire if they make that deal, knowing that the Weber issue will be hanging over their heads. Note that he will make $6 million in salary (bonus money all gone) for 3 more years. After that it goes to $3 million for one year and down to $1 million for the last 3 seasons. I would say there is a strong possibility he retires at age 37 or so. This is not trivial we are talking a $30 million cap hit over 4 seasons.
- winsix

If they think they can win a Cup, I don't think they'd care.

I know Crosby was making over 1.5 million a year with Reebok. Plus he had Gatorade, Tim Hoes, and Bell. Somewhere around 5 a year over his salary.

Subban was still in commercials playing in Nashville.

If you don't know how can you say it's a factor?
- JohnFergusonJr

There are two real tiers to NHL endorsement deals. The first tier is really low hanging fruit .....local businesses and small deals with bigger companies. There are a bunch of athletes dialed in to those deals and they don't really push the needle in terms of enticing players. The upper tier comes from big Canadian companies or Canadian branches of US companies. Bell, Rogers, Gatorade, CCM ....

Crosby, Ovechkin and McDavid are locked into those big deals. Matthews is likely on his way if he wants it. Marner too ...and I think he has a better chance at locking in to those contracts if he stayed in Toronto (or say a Montreal). Those guys make upwards of 4-5 milly per year from endorsements.

That's why it's a factor.

If they think they can win a Cup, I don't think they'd care.
- JohnFergusonJr

Marner is guaranteed to leave them anyways if they don’t wanna cup

It’s a science apparently