Luke fn Schenn👍
- mr.sir

Luke Schenn would be a lock on this D atm

I hate Stralman

No
- mr.sir

Why?

There might not be enough money for Stralman but if they can find it, he would be a welcomed addition to the Leafs lineup.

He's a #4 D at this point and knowing the Leafs they'll play him like Hainsey but I'd rather have Stralman on the cheap than nobody at this point.

Luke Schenn would be a lock on this D atm
- DrunkenCanuck

Could probably handle 16-18 minutes a night with the right partner as a 6/7 D.

Could probably handle 16-18 minutes a night with the right partner as a 6/7 D.
- JohnFergusonJr

Phaneuf or Hainsey?

6 players under 1M
21 players listed out of, a usual 22 (23?) roster
Kessel cap hit is 1.2 (I think?)

People who pointed out the cap problems conclude we would have like 7 or 8 players 1M or under. Your roster bears this out.

Maybe that works out just fine, but having 1/3 of your roster under 1M sounds like a lot of potential issues in the lineup

AND... they have to get rid of Nylander to achieve all of this.

You think that is not a problem?
- Aetherial

St. Louis had about 9 players at or under $1.
The Capitals the year before had 7.
The Pens the year before had about 10.
The year before that the Pens had about 8 or 9.

Apparently it's not that much of a problem.

Realistically, your 4th line, and 5/6 D, and maybe your backup goalie should all be cheap. That's 6 potential $1m players right there. Throw in a couple of rookies and cheap contracts, and you're sitting at 9 players, which allows you to maximize your superstar salary.

Phaneuf or Hainsey?
- DrunkenCanuck

Hainsey and Schenn

That's a cap hit as it pertains to the calculation for offer sheets only. His salary cap hit is still the salary he'd agree to.

While I'm pretty sure the Leafs would walk away from $14m, I wonder where they walk away? I think the absolute top-end if you're the Leafs (and you want to push it) is probably $11 million. That gets into the realm of stupid.
- Monkeypunk

Exactly. Who even has that type of cap space available, let alone $14M per and is willing to sacrifice FOUR 1st's?

I'm not even sure teams would do that for McDavid...

I think Kyle Doofus is the hold up. Why are some of you turning on Marner, who is a home grown talent that we haven’t seen in decades, lives and loves the Leafs, projects to be a top 10pt player in the league for years to come... In favour of a well spoken dork who’s done nothing well since taking over? He’s overpaid the other two, why wouldn’t Marner expect the same?
- DrunkenCanuck

People still think NYlander is overpaid? LOL

Hainsey and Schenn
- mr.sir

Yep. Makes too much sense for the current mgmt though.

People still think NYlander is overpaid? LOL
- RogerRoeper

Wild Bill says Hi

Exactly. Who even has that type of cap space available, let alone $14M per and is willing to sacrifice FOUR 1st's?

I'm not even sure teams would do that for McDavid...
- As_I_See_It

I would do it in a heartbeat for McDavid.

But your point is completely taken. I think it's a move of sheer desperation in a time where 1st round picks are a remarkably valuable commodity because they afford you those $1m dollar players for 3 years who can potentially play up in your lineup.

If you sign Marner, you'd better be positive you're going to be good and relevant for all 4 years.

Hainsey and Schenn
- mr.sir

Hainsey and Schenn? With their footspeed, who is going to be near the puck?

Phaneuf or Hainsey?
- DrunkenCanuck

Hard pass on both.

They suck.

They're past their prime (Phaneuf never had one).

Ineffective veterans < Rookies.

Hainsey and Schenn? With their footspeed, who is going to be near the puck?
- Monkeypunk

Marner

Exactly. Who even has that type of cap space available, let alone $14M per and is willing to sacrifice FOUR 1st's?

I'm not even sure teams would do that for McDavid...
- As_I_See_It

The Islanders.

They have the coach, they have the team defense and if they keep Lehner, they have the goalie. They lack the offense (Leafs stole it from them).

There are a couple teams out there that, if they make the playoffs every year, don't give a poop about giving up four 20th-25th picks for Marner.

I’m convinced a deal will get done. Of the three that will be overpaid, please consider which one is durable and can play the PK very well and will only get better defensively. Can you even consider putting the other two on the PK? No. No you can’t.

The Islanders.

They have the coach, they have the team defense and if they keep Lehner, they have the goalie. They lack the offense (Leafs stole it from them).

There are a couple teams out there that, if they make the playoffs every year, don't give a poop about giving up four 20th-25th picks for Marner.
- JohnFergusonJr

So the guy who pissed Marner off in the first place by not giving him his Schedule 'B' bonuses is the guy he wants to sign with? It better be a mind-bogglingly big offer, I would think.

I guess we'll see.

So the guy who pissed Marner off in the first place by not giving him his Schedule 'B' bonuses is the guy he wants to sign with? It better be a mind-bogglingly big offer, I would think.

I guess we'll see.
- Monkeypunk

I'm not saying the Islanders will do it, I'm just saying they could if they wanted to.

And we're talking about money here, right? If Lou gives him what he wants this time around, pretty sure the chump change he didn't make last time is water under the bridge.

Another example, The Predators.

They have 11 forwards, 8 D and 2 goalies with 13.1 million in cap space.

You think they care about four 1st round picks?

I’m convinced a deal will get done. Of the three that will be overpaid, please consider which one is durable and can play the PK very well and will only get better defensively. Can you even consider putting the other two on the PK? No. No you can’t.
- DrunkenCanuck

I think a deal will get done. There's a lot of posturing and high-stakes chicken. Both sides can lose here.

The Leafs can only pay so much despite how good Marner is.

Marner wants to be a Leaf.

I think all of the elite RFAs are sort of waiting for a ball to drop so they can start moving.

Hainsey and Schenn? With their footspeed, who is going to be near the puck?
- Monkeypunk

The other team?

I think a deal will get done. There's a lot of posturing and high-stakes chicken. Both sides can lose here.

The Leafs can only pay so much despite how good Marner is.

Marner wants to be a Leaf.

I think all of the elite RFAs are sort of waiting for a ball to drop so they can start moving.
- Monkeypunk

Bang on

The other team?
- gergeswillems

We should see what Kronwall is doing then.

The Islanders.

They have the coach, they have the team defense and if they keep Lehner, they have the goalie. They lack the offense (Leafs stole it from them).

There are a couple teams out there that, if they make the playoffs every year, don't give a poop about giving up four 20th-25th picks for Marner.
- JohnFergusonJr

NYI would also be thinking of Barzal coming down the pipe and possibly getting sheeted. Even if they sheeted Marner and Barzal wasn’t sheeted, what is Barzal’s asking when he sees Marner making $14M per?

We should see what Kronwall is doing then.
- DrunkenCanuck

He's trying to decide if coming back to the worst team in the NHL for another season is worth it or not.

I'm not saying the Islanders will do it, I'm just saying they could if they wanted to.

And we're talking about money here, right? If Lou gives him what he wants this time around, pretty sure the chump change he didn't make last time is water under the bridge.

Another example, The Predators.

They have 11 forwards, 8 D and 2 goalies with 13.1 million in cap space.

You think they care about four 1st round picks?
- JohnFergusonJr

I think they do care, obviously.

It's not impossible. Nashville is another team with many moving parts. They moved PK to get room for Josi. If they want to keep Granlund and Smith and Watson . . . they can't really be players.

The point isn't that someone won't, the point is that you need to know your team is there now, and you're ready now to contend for 4 years.

It's a bigger roll of the dice than when Burke acquired Kessel, but you are getting a better player for your gamble.