Name that team.
- Atomic Wedgie

i don't know who that team is, but if the return was worth paying 1 year at 5.3 million for i'm sure they could find one.

I must admit, I did not see Guy Carbonneau's nomination coming.
- Scabeh

I have to agree with you.. or does the Hall of Fame have a "best bottom 6 player of all-time" category?

If our goalie coach can turn Anti Niemi into a somewhat decent backup for a few months, he might do wonder with Sparks!
- Scabeh

Sparks' reaction time is equivalent to that of a blind sloth...

Deal is still on right? No take-backsies.

I must admit, I did not see Guy Carbonneau's nomination coming.
- Scabeh

I gotta admit I don't hate it.

He's no Bob Gainey, but 3 Selkes does get you consideration.

I have to agree with you.. or does the Hall of Fame have a "best bottom 6 player of all-time" category?
- PatC80

Well Carbo is a 3 times Selke winner.... and was used to counter many great players in 80's and 90's (most of them would be driven insane by Carbo's smart defensive play back in the days... just ask Peter Stastny). He, along with Bob Gainey, perfected the defensive forward role.

This being said, I still would have picked Pierre Turgeon over him for HHOF at this point.

I gotta admit I don't hate it.

He's no Bob Gainey, but 3 Selkes does get you consideration.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yeah, I don't think it's farfetched.... just unexpected.

Horton goes on LTIR.

He doesn't count against the cap.

It's 100% a non-issue.
- JohnFergusonJr

i'm not sure that's exactly how that works, i think they have to put him on ltir at the start of every season and they get a certain percentage of his cap space back but not the full hit.

I'll confess I'm the last guy you want to rely on for evaluating Marlies' talent, but from what I saw (a couple of games live, a couple more on TV) and from what I've heard, Sandin is ahead of Lilybust on the development chart now.

And both looked shaky in the AHL playoffs.
- Atomic Wedgie

Well, two years ago Liljegren wasn’t shaky when he lifted the Calder cup. Sandin is younger, but more promising. Liljegren has a more NHL ready body, but his decionmaking is questionable.

Well Carbo is a 3 times Selke winner.... and was used to counter many great players in 80's and 90's (most of them would be driven insane by Carbo's smart defensive play back in the days... just ask Peter Stastny). He, along with Bob Gainey, perfected the defensive forward role.

This being said, I still would have picked Pierre Turgeon over him for HHOF at this point.
- Scabeh

Or Roenick, or Fleury, or Mogilny? Or, a whole lot more

i'm not sure that's exactly how that works, i think they have to put him on ltir at the start of every season and they get a certain percentage of his cap space back but not the full hit.
- SP da GHOST

Should have stopped there

i don't know who that team is, but if the return was worth paying 1 year at 5.3 million for i'm sure they could find one.
- SP da GHOST

You still haven't answered the bigger question: why do you want to get rid of a guy who we can just roll onto LTIR and not worry about his cap hit?

Why bother giving up assets?

i'm not sure that's exactly how that works, i think they have to put him on ltir at the start of every season and they get a certain percentage of his cap space back but not the full hit.
- SP da GHOST

That's not how it works.

It's a non-issue.

Or Roenick, or Fleury, or Mogilny? Or, a whole lot more
- PatC80

Turgeon before all of these guys.

But Carbo deserves to be there before Roenick and Fleury. Imo.

Mogilny.... I have alot of trouble evaluating his time in Russia but he's an important player over there for sure and crazy talented too.

Turgeon before all of these guys.

But Carbo deserves to be there before Roenick and Fleury. Imo.

Mogilny.... I have alot of trouble evaluating his time in Russia but he's an important player over there for sure and crazy talented too.
- Scabeh

Mogilny for his international career and his NHL career.

You are a tad slow.... not a question, just an observation.
- bixll

and here we go...

You can't buy out Horton - he's injured.
- Atomic Wedgie

never suggested buying him out.

You still haven't answered the bigger question: why do you want to get rid of a guy who we can just roll onto LTIR and not worry about his cap hit?

Why bother giving up assets?
- Atomic Wedgie

you are asking the wrong questions.

better question: why hasn't dubas sent at couple of draft picks to some team to take on kessel's retained salary?

never suggested buying him out.
- SP da GHOST

But you did;

hey chief, apparently carolina is going to be buying out marleau or at least that was initial report.

i'm not sure that's exactly how that works, i think they have to put him on ltir at the start of every season and they get a certain percentage of his cap space back but not the full hit.
- SP da GHOST

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

Just remember that he's never coming to training camp or coming back mid-season.

He's done forever.

you don't get it

In your mind why is Hortons contract an issue?
- lonnyBohonos

because somebody has to pay it out and a portion of it counts on the cap and the whole thing counts against the cap in the off season.

because somebody has to pay it out and a portion of it counts on the cap and the whole thing counts against the cap in the off season.
- SP da GHOST

*sigh*

because somebody has to pay it out and a portion of it counts on the cap and the whole thing counts against the cap in the off season.
- SP da GHOST

none of it counts against the cap. Once the season starts you can put him on LTIR. you can go 10% above the cap prior to the season. This contract has zero effect on the cap.

brother, jake gardiner should have been gone long ago, out of necessity he lasted until 2019. i'm not sure what you think jake gardiner really is, but apparently you are overrating him big time.
- SP da GHOST

I always like to hear Santo's side of things. His heart is in the same place as mine. But I disagreed on Gardiner too last blog. And I'll add, we'll never be a true cup favorite as long as we have him. When the coach has to manage his minutes, that speaks volumes. Teams know he is a weak link, and they make sure to pressure his side of the ice. Offensively, a joy to watch him skate. Defensively.... nuff said.

*sigh*
- Steven_Seagull

Mogilny for his international career and his NHL career.
- PatC80

And in a weird sort of way, the builder category, too.

His defection really forced the issue with the Soviet Union - it was the crack in the dam that started the migration of Soviet players to the NHL.

Yes, it was an inevitability, but I really think Mogilny pushed the timetable up by a couple of years.