Brent Burns plus 16

Erik Karlsson plus 6

Brendan Dillion plus 19

Marc-Edouard Vlasec minus 6

Justin Braun minus 14

The other Sharks players didn’t seem to have a huge issue. To be a good defensemen in a good defensive system, the best way to not get scored on is to not allow shots. Blaming goaltending is just lazy. Despite the Blues championship (and I was routing for them hard), the Blues struggled to take shots and took the bulk of the shots in the final. Hockey Night in Canada would have a timer in the corner of the screen show how long it took for the blues to Generate offense.

I’m really hoping your hopes aren’t all in on Justin Braun fixing all our defensive issues.
- SuperSchennBros

No way Braun is the savior but you should check to see who Braun played with and include zone starts

Courier Post has an interesting read on Wade Allison, kid has been through a lot. Looks like he wants to sign here eventually

The guy makes 3.8 million a year. Do you expect him to be putting up 40-50 points? You realize he’s not an offensive dman correct? He will play 20+ minutes a night against tough lineups and do well defensively. That is our biggest problem from last season, defensive zone lapses, not d men points
- Richieattack18

Its mind-numbing when all people look in defensemen is how many points they had. a lot of people don't get your point here, and that dmen who are good in their own zone are valuable too. People acting like 3.8 million is 7 million.

And if you watched any of the sharks games you would be blaming the goalie too. Jones was horrible.
- Richieattack18

Jones didn’t effect the rest of the Stanley Cup contending team.

lol so by your standards of +- then Vlasic had a terrible season too.
- Richieattack18

Vlasic wasn’t deep into the negative teens, nor was he traded to us.

What do you think 2real, how bad was Martin Jones? So bad he couldn’t get his team to the third round of the playoffs?

I have a gut feeling that Fletch is shopping one of JVR or Voracek, more likely JVR. They're just going to be too close to the cap when all is said and done.

Still gotta move a D man too unless they plan on sending Myers down, which I think would be a mistake.

Its mind-numbing when all people look in defensemen is how many points they had. a lot of people don't get your point here, and that dmen who are good in their own zone are valuable too. People acting like 3.8 million is 7 million.
- sjk540

I agree that first and foremost a defenseman needs to defend and there are certainly a number of situations where a good defensive defenseman can help a team. D zone draws and on the PK. The idea though and the best way to be a better team, is to defend less and spend more time in the other teams end. Move the puck quicker and more efficiently and spend more time on the attack. That was a big problem with the Flyers last year. Does Braun help that, we'll see. I think you're under simplifying it with the 3.8M is 7M comment.

Hartman not tendered by Dallas. So basically what Dallas got out of the trade is cap space.

It will be interesting to see what Hartman get's on the UFA market which could mean he still ends up in Dallas but obviously acquiring Hartman wasn't the point of the trade for them.

I agree that first and foremost a defenseman needs to defend and there are certainly a number of situations where a good defensive defenseman can help a team. D zone draws and on the PK. The idea though and the best way to be a better team, is to defend less and spend more time in the other teams end. Move the puck quicker and more efficiently and spend more time on the attack. That was a big problem with the Flyers last year. Does Braun help that, we'll see. I think you're under simplifying it with the 3.8M is 7M comment.
- MJL

I agree with this whole-heartedly, but at the same time I believe you need to have a good mix and can't have 6 dmen who only focus on offense. They're called defensemen for a reason, having guys who can chip in and lead rushes to me is a huge bonus, which is another reason I believe keeping Ghost far outweighs the cons of moving him.

My last comment was just conjecture, i didnt mean to over or under simplify anything, just stating an opinion based on really nothing, just what I view as people's issues with Braun and his contract specifically.

Hartman not tendered by Dallas. So basically what Dallas got out of the trade is cap space.

It will be interesting to see what Hartman get's on the UFA market which could mean he still ends up in Dallas but obviously acquiring Hartman wasn't the point of the trade for them.
- Flyers_01

Hard to understand that. Dallas didn't need to trade Pitlick to get him off the cap.

No way Braun is the savior but you should check to see who Braun played with and include zone starts
- wcorvette

Brendan dillon is the sharks top dman by +- standards, weak argument

I agree with this whole-heartedly, but at the same time I believe you need to have a good mix and can't have 6 dmen who only focus on offense. They're called defensemen for a reason, having guys who can chip in and lead rushes to me is a huge bonus, which is another reason I believe keeping Ghost far outweighs the cons of moving him.

My last comment was just conjecture, i didnt mean to over or under simplify anything, just stating an opinion based on really nothing, just what I view as people's issues with Braun and his contract specifically.
- sjk540

I agree with your first paragraph. I don't think the issue some have including myself is with his contract. More about what they gave up to get him and how it's just a stop gap solution that is going to take ice time away from a younger player.

idk if it's been mentioned already but it doesn't look like Dallas is going to qualify Hartman. he will be a UFA.

Hartman not tendered by Dallas. So basically what Dallas got out of the trade is cap space.

It will be interesting to see what Hartman get's on the UFA market which could mean he still ends up in Dallas but obviously acquiring Hartman wasn't the point of the trade for them.
- Flyers_01

NOOO fletcher got fleeced again i tell you!!!!!!

idk if it's been mentioned already but it doesn't look like Dallas is going to qualify Hartman. he will be a UFA.


- Mordecai

Can't figure out what Nill's reasoning was for making that deal.

Hartman not tendered by Dallas. So basically what Dallas got out of the trade is cap space.

It will be interesting to see what Hartman get's on the UFA market which could mean he still ends up in Dallas but obviously acquiring Hartman wasn't the point of the trade for them.
- Flyers_01

This doesn't make any sense? So that means Fletcher wanted Potluck because theoretically if we wanted cap savings we could have just not tendered him too

No way Braun is the savior but you should check to see who Braun played with and include zone starts
- wcorvette

Burns gets protected with zone starts. Braun and vlasic get hammered. I’m hoping Braun bounces back but niskanen and Braun are firmly on the back 9. After plenty of hard miles

Can't figure out what Nill's reasoning was for making that deal.
- MJL

Seem's obvious. He wanted Pitlick out of Dallas for whatever reason. Maybe he didn't need to get rid of him but he decided the roster was better off without him and the Flyers helped him out.

Courier Post has an interesting read on Wade Allison, kid has been through a lot. Looks like he wants to sign here eventually
- wcorvette

What did lacsynski have to say?

Burns gets protected with zone starts. Braun and vlasic get hammered. I’m hoping Braun bounces back but niskanen and Braun are firmly on the back 9. After plenty of hard miles
- Just5

Burns is not protected. You want your best offensive defenseman getting as many offensive zone or neutral zone starts as possible. I don't know if many realize but zone start shifts maybe account for half of a players shifts in a game.

Can't figure out what Nill's reasoning was for making that deal.
- MJL

Freed up a roster spot basically. I guess he couldn't get a pick straight up for Pitlick...

I have a gut feeling that Fletch is shopping one of JVR or Voracek, more likely JVR. They're just going to be too close to the cap when all is said and done.

Still gotta move a D man too unless they plan on sending Myers down, which I think would be a mistake.
- hereticpride

There’s just too much term with these players to get anything done imo.

Seem's obvious. He wanted Pitlick out of Dallas for whatever reason. Maybe he didn't need to get rid of him but he decided the roster was better off without him and the Flyers helped him out.
- Flyers_01

The only thing I can think of is they didn't plan on playing Pitlick so they moved him to another team where he has a chance to play rather than waiving and demoting him to the AHL.

Freed up a roster spot basically. I guess he couldn't get a pick straight up for Pitlick...
- hereticpride

They don't have a contract issue and a roster spot can be cleared by waiving and demoting. Comes completely off the cap.

They don't have a contract issue and a roster spot can be cleared by waiving and demoting. Comes completely off the cap.
- MJL

True. Maybe Fletch just phoned in a favor then.

There’s just too much term with these players to get anything done imo.
- Just5

I think the JVR deal is pretty team friendly tbh when you consider what guys are getting now. And with no NMC I could see something getting done.