Skinner was a UFA, not comparable.
- tvetter

How is it not comparable?

smaltz was extended with a 7 yr/ 40 mildo contract and has 80 more nhl games than strome...

my guess adb gets extended before strome....for strome this is a show me season; he maybe willing to go for a shorter term ext for less money now or "roll the dice" and get the extension next summer

no way should stanbow give strome a huge 6 yr plus contract now
- bogiedoc

DeBrincat has a better resume and goal scorers get paid. Bowman will probably want to get him done ASAP in case he continues to put up bigger numbers and gets really expensive.

Schmaltz contract seemed a bit high for what he has done so far too.

DeBrincat has a better resume and goal scorers get paid. Bowman will probably want to get him done ASAP in case he continues to put up bigger numbers and gets really expensive.

Schmaltz contract seemed a bit high for what he has done so far too.
- pjm901

Schmaltz contract is in line with his comparables - .59 PPG which is more than Landeskog, Drouin, and Larkin had during their ELC years. Only 13 less games played than Landeskog.

How is it not comparable?
- pjm901

Going by arbitration rules, UFA players are not comparables for RFA - the age and games played difference are the biggest issues.

How is it not comparable?
- pjm901

Leverage would be my guess.

How is it not comparable?
- pjm901

One has more years of service. Top 5 goal scorer at EV over the last 4-5 seasons.
UFA vs RFA being the most important factor.

Nylander makes a good comparable then and DeBrincat has outperformed him.

Nylander makes a good comparable then and DeBrincat has outperformed him.
- pjm901

Which puts him right in the range that LBR mentioned previously.

Nylander makes a good comparable then and DeBrincat has outperformed him.
- pjm901

Does William Karlsson?

Which puts him right in the range that LBR mentioned previously.
- Elbows15

If DeBrincat hits 40 again or comes close to it wouldn't that put him a bit higher? If they don't work something out during the season.

Karlsson had 78 points 2 years ago

Teuvo a comparable as well

Schmaltz contract is in line with his comparables - .59 PPG which is more than Landeskog, Drouin, and Larkin had during their ELC years. Only 13 less games played than Landeskog.
- L_B_R

I don’t doubt the statistic, but I am a bit surprised to see that Schmaltz’ PPG average is higher than Landeskog’s.

The devil must really be in the details as agent and team hash out the differences in a player’s line mates and other factors that influence these broad measurables.

Teuvo a comparable as well
- BetweenTheDots

Could be but there are far more direct comparables - i.e. players coming directly off their ELCs with around a .7 PPG or better.

Teravainen is on his 3rd contract since he signed a lower bridge deal after his ELC when he had only a .44 PPG in his ELC seasons. Teravainen was able to get that higher hit by having a .65 PPG over the 2 year bridge deal span with a .93 PPG in the final year.

Debrincat is more productive at a younger age, though - already at .79 PPG in his first two years of his ELC with a .93 PPG in the final year. Hopefully it'll end up in the Monahan/MacKinnon range but he could get Tarasenko money, though the latter is signed for 8 years, so the cap hit amount was higher than normal since it ate into his UFA years.

TT could be used but it's not as direct comp as some others.

I don’t doubt the statistic, but I am a bit surprised to see that Schmaltz’ PPG average is higher than Landeskog’s.

The devil must really be in the details as agent and team hash out the differences in a player’s line mates and other factors that influence these broad measurables.
- Chief4Feathers

The Avs signed Landeskog with a year left on his ELC hoping to get him on a decent contract before he broke out - and it worked. He had only 69 points in 118 games (.58 PPG) when he signed and then followed that up with a 65 point season.

If Landeskog had waited another season, he would have had 0.67 PPG and netted him probably another $800k-1m.

Yes!
And when he nominates ol Davey, Rain Main will be the 1st to do so singing this song (Rain Man, brought this out of the mothballs just for you!):

“The Ballad of Davey Bolland” (by Savvyone)
(sung to the tune of “Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald”)

The legend lives on from the UC on down
Of the player they call-ed "The Rat."
“The Rat”, it is told, is always playoff gold
When the season of hockey turns frightening.
With a aching old back and a melon made mush
You know that this rat is hurting.
With a groin that is pulled, how did this happen to you
In the season that saw Hawks win plenty.

“The Rat” was the pride of the Blackhawks side
Coming back from all of his inj’ries.
As this hockey player goes, he was more hurt than most
And his legend lived on for seasons.
Including this year when he played a new role
And was the new 2nd line center.
Well the Hawks soon found out his legend was for naught,
Fourteen points was all he could muster.

Could it be true, “The Rat” was only foolin’ you
With his playoff performances before then.
Now he was broke and couldn’t be fixed
Yet Q kept trottin’ him out there.
His fans couldn’t believe “The Rat” was but gone
When his injuries were not gonna’ be healing.
Like a ship good and true, it’s “The Rat” and Q
That will be thrown overboard at the end of this season.

The legend lives on from the UC on down
Of the player they called "The Rat."
“The Rat”, it is told, is always playoff gold
When the season of hockey turns bold.
With a aching old back and a melon made mush
You know that this rat is hurting.
Now a groin that is pulled, what more can happen to you
In the season that saw them come up empty.
- savvyone-1

Holy (frank) is that lame.

He could skate ok and he was willing to play tough. Not retained only means = just don t believe his upside is all too good.

A tad surprising as surely someone else could have been looped? Next i want to see if Tuulola makes
it even with another organization. Seen enough progress
In Tuilola, AEL_FOX? Is the Hillman cut a fair decision?#
- jhawk59

Although I would have preferred to see him in another full season in Rockford to see if he could improve, not surprised that Hillman was not resigned either.

For one, he didn't play consistently and often tried to do too much which led to turnovers and being caught out of position. Instead he should have played a simple game making safe, smart plays especially as a defensive defenseman. Krys is guilty of this, too, but has more upside as a 2-way rearguard who still has years left on his ELC to improve.

Another thing is the crowded blueline in Rockford:

- 5 sure-fire starters (Carlsson, Gilbert, Tuulola, Krys, Beaudin)
- 2 possible starters (Jokiharju, Boqvist)
- 3 tweeners between the Hogs and Fuel (Osipov, McArdle, Ryczek)
- 2 veterans who may not return (Campbell, Davidson)

That's 12 defensemen not even counting Dahlstrom and/or Koekkoek if passed through (and cleared) waivers. Even though Hillman was caught in a numbers game, a career minor leaguer like Osipov outplayed him.

If DBC gets 50 next year and he very well could ,he will be looking at 9 or 10 mil .If Strom hits 70 points he looking at 7 mil .I try and lock them up now DBC 8 mil 5years and Strom 6 for 5 years .. Get her done .

Holy (frank) is that lame.
- Ogilthorpe2

Holy (frank) is that lame.
- Ogilthorpe2

You actually read it?

He could skate ok and he was willing to play tough. Not retained only means = just don t believe his upside is all too good.

A tad surprising as surely someone else could have been looped? Next i want to see if Tuulola makes
it even with another organization. Seen enough progress
In Tuilola, AEL_FOX? Is the Hillman cut a fair decision?#
- jhawk59

Tuulola was definitely more consistent than Hillman in comparison as the Finn defended the paint, cleared the crease, and got in opponent's grill. Way more physical and a decent skater.

Is Tuulola worth an NHL cup of coffee? Likely not as he is still low on the depth chart. Then again, Gilbert was lower on that chart compared to Carlsson and Hillman a year ago yet got better as the season went along earning more minutes and his brief call up to the Hawks.

Anything is possible but Tuulola would have to leapfrog Jokiharju, Carlsson, Gilbert, and possibly first year pros Beaudin, Krys (first full season), and Boqvist (if management feels he is best off in the AHL rather than back in London). Just don't see it happening. Not bad as an AHL defenseman, though.

and Boqvist (if management feels he is best off in the AHL rather than back in London).
- AEL_Fox

Ok guys, worth repeating again....Boqvist is not eligible to play in the AHL this year. It's NHL or juniors, he cannot go to Rockford, so it's a moot point.

If DBC gets 50 next year and he very well could ,he will be looking at 9 or 10 mil .If Strom hits 70 points he looking at 7 mil .I try and lock them up now DBC 8 mil 5years and Strom 6 for 5 years .. Get her done .
- oldduffman

Then start looking for his new home sooner than later...

Ok guys, worth repeating again....Boqvist is not eligible to play in the AHL this year. It's NHL or juniors, he cannot go to Rockford, so it's a moot point.
- Budi1782

That is factually incorrect. Boqvist can play in the AHL next season. The CHL/AHL age rule does not apply to players who were drafted out of their Euro team. Call it a loop hole if you want but Boqvist played for London last season "on loan" from his Swedish team - therefore the CHL/AHL rule does not apply to him.

Ok guys, worth repeating again....Boqvist is not eligible to play in the AHL this year. It's NHL or juniors, he cannot go to Rockford, so it's a moot point.
- Budi1782

Incorrect Boqvist was drafted out of Brynäs IF. He is 100% eligible to play in the AHL.