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Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 4:57 PM ET
Reaves played some of the lowest quality of competition in the league and got skewed OZS - it's not hard to be decently effective under those circumstances. Vegas could have a 4th line like that because their top players are strong defensively - I mean, Karlsson was a checking center when he was with Columbus. Reaves is a bad passer, bad in transition (like almost league worst), and he contributes almost nothing in terms of shots.

On top of that, his TOI decreases in the playoff to about 8-9 minutes total with no special teams help - signaling when the competition really gets started, the coach doesn't actually find him all that effective.

As a team looking to get better defensively, they need their 4th line to be a checking line that faces at least 2-3L QOC and takes defensive zone stars, neither of which Reaves can do well even a little.

- L_B_R


So what’s your point?

Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
The penalty shot goal against Vancouver will be etched in my mind (and my groin) forever.
- LAHawk




I almost felt sorry for Schneider... but then I didn’t.
TYDALE
Joined: 07.09.2010

Jun 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
If this is for the Hall of Fame it shows Rick was right about the quality of players who are nominated, let alone inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
- paulr


Yes, it was just announced and I agree. The HOF is a joke.
DontKnowNutin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Grandview, MO
Joined: 06.28.2017

Jun 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
The Leafs were in the Norris with the Hawks for 10-12 years though meaning a playoff series win against the Habs or B's would mean a Stanley Cup but that still hurts.
- Popsghostly


Wait, I stand corrected, Toronto was up 4-1, late in 3rd in game 7 against Bruins, back in 2013. NO NHL TEAM has ever come back from that situation. So Toronto must have won that one, the only time in last 60 years they would have beaten Boston:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbsj9-JZm4g

https://www.cbc.ca/sports...-game-7-shocker-1.1386432.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:01 PM ET
If this is for the Hall of Fame it shows Rick was right about the quality of players who are nominated, let alone inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
- paulr

Now I have nothing against Sergei Zubov but gimme a break with Guy Carbonneau. He was a 3rd line checking center, nice player but HOF? Ahead of somebody like Alex Mogilny yet.

Whats next - Dave Bolland nominated ho the Hall by Steve Rain?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:03 PM ET
Vegas has about a half hour to qualify the three RFA's on their NHL roster - Gusev, Nosek and Subban. -
- boilermaker100


Gusev is a stud, he was lights out in that last tourney.

I'd take a shot and eat that Clarkson contract for a year.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:03 PM ET
Now I have nothing against Sergei Zubov but gimme a break with Guy Carbonneau. He was a 3rd line checking center, nice player but HOF? Ahead of somebody like Alex Mogilny yet.

Whats next - Dave Bolland nominated ho the Hall by Steve Rain?

- RickJ


Nick Leddy
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 5:07 PM ET
The Stars didn’t qualify Hartman, he’s now a UFA.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:08 PM ET
Nick Leddy
- vabeachbear

Leddy is Savvy's nomination. Steve is all over Bolland for the Hall.

Only one will probably get in because they need room for some stiff that played for the Leafs or Bruins in 1968.
DontKnowNutin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Grandview, MO
Joined: 06.28.2017

Jun 25 @ 5:09 PM ET
Honestly, I'd rather see them lottery tank for one more year....because no matter what deals Stan makes this season he still will not have the horses to make a serious run for the Cup this season.
- Return of the Roar


Remember, the Blues won the cup. It seems reasonable to use them as a standard of comparison for this upcoming year (i.e. how well do the Hawks match up against them now, currently one of the elite teams?). We'll see in a few months what the final roster looks like, but it sure seems in the current moment that one can make a strong argument that the gap has significantly closed.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:09 PM ET
GM must be at home with a cold.
- paulr


I see what you did there.......
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:10 PM ET
The Stars didn’t qualify Hartman, he’s now a UFA.
- DarthKane

Q and Tallon will be calling shortly. Why pay Panarin when they can get Hartman cheap.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 25 @ 5:11 PM ET
Gusev is a stud, he was lights out in that last tourney.

I'd take a shot and eat that Clarkson contract for a year.

- vabeachbear


Gusev playing LW with Kane would look a lot like another Russian sniper who recently played with Kane. Don't know what kind of coin/term Gusev would sign for but if it's a reasonable 2-year deal at around $4M which would bridge him to free agency - that would be very good.

Sign Gusev for $4M, take on Clarkson's LTIR contract and trade Anisimov. Done.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:11 PM ET
Now I have nothing against Sergei Zubov but gimme a break with Guy Carbonneau. He was a 3rd line checking center, nice player but HOF? Ahead of somebody like Alex Mogilny yet.

Whats next - Dave Bolland nominated ho the Hall by Steve Rain?

- RickJ



Haha. Don’t forget savvyone. We will do a joint presser.

Jr should be in. 27 should be in the rafters but we got Maggie so every meathead can rejoice at that.....😳😳😳
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:12 PM ET
Q and Tallon will be calling shortly. Why pay Panarin when they can get Hartman cheap.
- RickJ




Hartman hates Q
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 25 @ 5:12 PM ET
Remember, the Blues won the cup. It seems reasonable to use them as a standard of comparison for this upcoming year (i.e. how well do the Hawks match up against them now, currently one of the elite teams?). We'll see in a few months what the final roster looks like, but it sure seems in the current moment that one can make a strong argument that the gap has significantly closed.
- DontKnowNutin


Yes but Colorado got hall of famer (according to Pierre), Byron Byram
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:17 PM ET
The penalty shot goal against Vancouver will be etched in my mind (and my groin) forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkIwC2sT09I

- LAHawk


Top 5 moment seeing games live. Roberta......man I miss that rivalry.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:17 PM ET


Hartman hates Q

- gifman

I'm sure the feeling is mutual
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
I’d rather Stan try to land Copp out of Winnipeg.
- DarthKane

I'd rather have (reunite) Copp and Tanev if that's possible.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
I'd rather have (reunite) Copp and Tanev if that's possible.
- BGKarras


That would be the ultimate best case scenario, they’ve were quite a combo in Winnipeg.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
What a joke of a HOF class

Zubov over Wilson?

Carbonneau ever? Yikes.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
Haha. Don’t forget savvyone. We will do a joint presser.

Jr should be in. 27 should be in the rafters but we got Maggie so every meathead can rejoice at that.....😳😳😳

- SteveRain

Had to look it up - Carbonneau had 6 seasons with single digit number of goals and 2 other seasons where he had 10 and 14. And this is a HOF'er?



SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
What a joke of a HOF class

Zubov over Wilson?

Carbonneau ever? Yikes.

- PatShart


There’s now hope for dirk graham.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
Had to look it up - Carbonneau had 6 seasons with single digit number of goals and 2 other seasons where he had 10 and 14. And this is a HOF'er?
- RickJ


I don’t get it either. I’m sure his corsi retroactive Stats are amazing though. Ugh.

What a joke. Good player. Not a great player. Certainly not a hall of famer.
Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Jun 25 @ 5:25 PM ET
Frolik has always made a lot of sense.
- DarthKane


If the penalty kill is fixed the Hawks are in the playoff conversation

Not sure Frolik is that answer but he would help
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