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StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
That depends also on if they plan on putting daHaan on LTIR after day 1. In order to maximize the cap savings for possible deadline deals they would need to be as close to the cap on day 1 as possible.
- LAHawk

Presumably, de Haan would be back by the TDL.

No?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
Seems like a quiet day today around the league. Maybe everyone is concentrating on their RFA signings. Heard anything else, Tyler?
- boilermaker100

Where are you?

It's only 9AM here in Chicago - 10AM in NYC - 7 AM on the West Coast.

Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
NHL schedule comes out today as well. Keep an eye out for that.
- Tyler Cameron


The Dub's schedule comes out tomorrow.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:09 AM ET
It's only 10am. Ha.

Hey Brooks Orpik retired. That's something.

Also, yes... all focus on RFAs right now.

- Tyler Cameron


Mr. Cheap Shot - he can suck it full time now up at cottage.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 25 @ 10:10 AM ET
Don’t count Dach out from sticking for the regular season with the Hawks.

At minimum, he gets the 9 game regular season try out. He can always go back to Junior if doesn’t impress in the 1st 9.

Kid sounds and handles himself off ice like a professional. And the stories about his compete level are very promising.

- scottak


He'll compete for a spot 100%. He'll be close either way.

Keep an eye put if he joins a game or two in the Chicago Pro League this summer. Dach spoke about pace and you won't find out what that is until you play with NHLers. While it's a lesser, lighter skating league, it would be good exposure to Chicago and to a lot of NHLers.

Also, if the Hawks move Anisimov, keep an eye on whether they sign or trade for another C.

It might give indication of what they are thinking for Dach.

A lot will unfold throughout the summer.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 25 @ 10:11 AM ET
Mr. Cheap Shot - he can suck it full time now up at cottage.
- Chief4Feathers


Ha. He can.

Hate that guy.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
I wouldn't be surprised to see Seabrook on LTIR at some point during the season.
- LAHawk


Unlike MLB's newly named Injured List, they have to have a real injury that makes the resumption of his career impossible or detrimental to his long-term health; or the cap hit comes right back when he's healthy.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
Presumably, de Haan would be back by the TDL.

No?

- StLBravesFan

Had surgery in mid-May. It’s a 4-6 month recovery time plus getting himself in game shape.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
If the Hawks do sign a goalie, it will be a veteran (Ward), that can come in if CC gets injured. As much as I would love to give Darling a second chance, to sign him to possibly take playing time away from Delia/Lankinen in the Rock is not a good idea IMO.
- LAHawk


on of those 2 are going to be the backup in Chi. They need to see what they have at the NHL level so they can plan for 2020. I think the plan is to go with 2 cheap goalies if they think they can get Replacement level tending.

I would do Craw and Delia in Chi and Lankan #1 and Darling # 2 in Rockford. I think darling needs to work on himself personally so I don't think they need him starting 40 games.

my thought is it only costs rocky $ and if darling can get back to close of what he was 3 years ago he would be a steal in 2020 at $650k and give you extra cash for Cat, trome and kubalik(if he has a good year)

Ward type guys are not any better the delia or lanken at there best and are terrible at there worst. I think most people are listening to eddie O to much Ward was terrible last year and if you look at his numbers it was pretty predictable. He has not been below replacement level since 2012

golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
He'll compete for a spot 100%. He'll be close either way.

Keep an eye put if he joins a game or two in the Chicago Pro League this summer. Dach spoke about pace and you won't find out what that is until you play with NHLers. While it's a lesser, lighter skating league, it would be good exposure to Chicago and to a lot of NHLers.

Also, if the Hawks move Anisimov, keep an eye on whether they sign or trade for another C.

It might give indication of what they are thinking for Dach.

A lot will unfold throughout the summer.

- Tyler Cameron


This is key. While Anisimov does a lot of good things on both ends, he's not physical enough and doesn't win draws consistently. They need to fix that. Sure Kampf was excellent on draws his rookie season but he regressed last year. Can't go in relying on him to bounce back. If he does, great but I think they need to get a more proven guy. Someone who may be worth exploring on the cheap is Valterri Filpulla. Career 51% FO guy and coming off a strong year for the Islanders with 17 goals as a third line center. Can play in every situation. Might not be physical enough but I like his ability to win draws.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
Don’t count Dach out from sticking for the regular season with the Hawks.

At minimum, he gets the 9 game regular season try out. He can always go back to Junior if doesn’t impress in the 1st 9.

Kid sounds and handles himself off ice like a professional. And the stories about his compete level are very promising.

- scottak


So if he does stick at the NHL level, 3rd pick in the draft, i believe he'll be eligible for a $3 million performance bonus? I believe the team can count it against next year's cap but i prefer they leave a little cap cushion for this and next year.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:18 AM ET
Mr. Cheap Shot - he can suck it full time now up at cottage.
- Chief4Feathers

Isn’t Backes American? Lol
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:20 AM ET
This is key. While Anisimov does a lot of good things on both ends, he's not physical enough and doesn't win draws consistently. They need to fix that. Sure Kampf was excellent on draws his rookie season but he regressed last year. Can't go in relying on him to bounce back. If he does, great but I think they need to get a more proven guy. Someone who may be worth exploring on the cheap is Valterri Filpulla. Career 51% FO guy and coming off a strong year for the Islanders with 17 goals as a third line center. Can play in every situation. Might not be physical enough but I like his ability to win draws.
- golfbard


Good call. For the right $/term, he’d be a solid candidate for that role.
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:21 AM ET
Don't think the league would approve that
- Scott1977


Skin condition then it is.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
So if he does stick at the NHL level, 3rd pick in the draft, i believe he'll be eligible for a $3 million performance bonus? I believe the team can count it against next year's cap but i prefer they leave a little cap cushion for this and next year.
- BetweenTheDots


All you wanted to know about ELC performance bonuses.

https://puckpedia.com/sal...level-performance-bonuses
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
Skin condition then it is.
- BlackhawkMike


Slip Hossa’s old Under Armour shirts into Seabs locker...
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
on of those 2 are going to be the backup in Chi. They need to see what they have at the NHL level so they can plan for 2020. I think the plan is to go with 2 cheap goalies if they think they can get Replacement level tending.

I would do Craw and Delia in Chi and Lankan #1 and Darling # 2 in Rockford. I think darling needs to work on himself personally so I don't think they need him starting 40 games.

my thought is it only costs rocky $ and if darling can get back to close of what he was 3 years ago he would be a steal in 2020 at $650k and give you extra cash for Cat, trome and kubalik(if he has a good year)

Ward type guys are not any better the delia or lanken at there best and are terrible at there worst. I think most people are listening to eddie O to much Ward was terrible last year and if you look at his numbers it was pretty predictable. He has not been below replacement level since 2012

- kmw4631


Not sold on Delia, did not play well after the first week he was brought up. I feel he could be Chicago's version of Garrett Sparks.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
So if he does stick at the NHL level, 3rd pick in the draft, i believe he'll be eligible for a $3 million performance bonus? I believe the team can count it against next year's cap but i prefer they leave a little cap cushion for this and next year.
- BetweenTheDots

I believe it’s $2.85 million if he maxes out.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
After this season, Seabs will have collected 35.5M of his 55M total contract value. I believe he can voluntarily retire any time and not cause a cap penalty. But would he (and anybody else) walk away from almost $20M? And the Hawks aren't going to pay him $7 a year as an advisor or assistant coach.
- boilermaker100



yes he can...cap recapture penalty was for pre 2013 long term contracts...

like you i doubt he retires...
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Where are the Blackhawks sitting now $ wise ?

Leave the current roster as is and add Pavelski or Lee , thats a pretty competitive team , no?
hpk90
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: North Potomac, MD
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Toronto isn't going to trade Hyman. They are paying him $2.2 mil. and plays in the top 6, one of the few guys they have that gets his nose dirty. If they have to dump more, they will move Kadri at $4.3 mil.
- LAHawk


It is a hockey trade...need for need. We need a guy like Hyman. They need a young cost controlled defenseman. Makes sense in my Armchair GM world...
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Seabrook isnt retiring early to become a coach

Nor is he going to fake an injury to walk away.

What, based on his character that he has shown through his career, tells anyone that he would fake an injury to simply walk away from a game he has dedicated his whole life to?

If the Hawks want to get rid of him, they will have to buy him out, or have him agree to a trade he and his family will want to move to. And to a team willing to trade for him. Those are the only 2 scenarios.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Not sold on Delia, did not play well after the first week he was brought up. I fel hee could be Chicago's version of Garrett Sparks.
- LAHawk

He was solid for the first few weeks but also had a poopty defense in front of him. Jury is still out imo and same on Strome.

Will they really allow JC to deploy a man defense or will Scotty thwart that plan? Can’t see man working in the new era where even the grinders are blazing fast.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
It is a hockey trade...need for need. We need a guy like Hyman. They need a young cost controlled defenseman. Makes sense in my Armchair GM world...
- hpk90


They need to dump salary, not add. They would love to dump Zaitsev, would you trade Murphy for Zeitsev?, I wouldn't.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
Where are the Blackhawks sitting now $ wise ?

Leave the current roster as is and add Pavelski or Lee , thats a pretty competitive team , no?

- mrpaulish

Depends what AAV either wants. Hawks might have $5-6 mil after RFA’s are signed.
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