Meh we’ll see how Caufield and brink compare
- 2Real

vs Caufield and Brink compare as thats a close draft position comparison.

they won t go bridge deal with provy for sure now, nor should they. Just waiting for McVoy or Werenski to sign first.

Becomes a free agent after all the retentions and buyouts are off the books.
- Flyers1218

I’d much rather it be a 6 year deal but fletcher seemingly backed himself into a corner to make a bridge deal

sanheim 2 yrs 3.25 is a good number for a bridge deal
- nastyflyergirl

I'm very pleased with this. Does anyone know what his RFA status will be at the end of the deal? Arb eligible ( I think so)? Hopefully he's in a position to demand $7mil/year in two years.

The GM has really killed this team with his deals. He has hurt the future.

Best move Sanbeim, he can set himself up for a monster deal in 2 yrs. I thought it would be difficult to go long term with him at this time
- ravishingone

It’s been done around the league plenty of times.

The Flyers have 8 forwards signed with 2 RFAs, 6 dmen signed with 2 RFAs and 1 goalie. Goes to reason after signing the RFAs they will still need to add whether by UFA, promotion or trade 1 goalie and 2-3 forwards. Counting Schlemko’s buried contract they have rounded 22.5 million in cap space. If the rumored numbers for the UFAs are accurate you are looking at 18-20 million. That really doesn’t leave much for the additional goalie and forwards they need to add. This is why I am leery about adding Hayes, Braun (at least there are no long term ramifications) and Niskanen (not Niskanen as much as the retaining Gudas salary part).

Yes of course we want to add players to improve and I believe those players do but are they players that help get the flyers get to real contender status? Is having Giroux, Voracek, Hayes and JVR on 7 million plus cap hits going to help the Flyers become an elite team?

I get the frustration with Hextall. It was taking too long and we wanted to see progress. See the kids pushed along a bit. Changes made to better the team. But I won’t lie that Fletcher does bring back bad Holmgren (I believe there was also a good Holmgren) nightmares. Obviously building a cup winner is hard. 30 out of 31 teams fail every season and there is urgency with the Flyers because they have become so irrelevant over the last 9 years but you have to build wisely and spend wisely. I still am not confident in the leadership of Holmgren/Fletcher.
- nastyflyergirl

I agree and share your concerns. I'll just add that I don't blame Fletcher. He is just doing what he was mandated to do. I don't like the approach but in the context of what he was hired to do, he has done a good job in that respect. He has improved he team.

If LA hadn't drafted Kaliyev at 33 would the Flyers have chosen him or did they want Brink all along? 50 Goals and 100 points in major junior is no small feat.

worse case they have to let Laughton and/or Hartman go. I guess it depends on how some of 2nd year AHL forwards look this year.

The Flyers have 8 forwards signed with 2 RFAs, 6 dmen signed with 2 RFAs and 1 goalie. Goes to reason after signing the RFAs they will still need to add whether by UFA, promotion or trade 1 goalie and 2-3 forwards. Counting Schlemko’s buried contract they have rounded 22.5 million in cap space. If the rumored numbers for the UFAs are accurate you are looking at 18-20 million. That really doesn’t leave much for the additional goalie and forwards they need to add. This is why I am leery about adding Hayes, Braun (at least there are no long term ramifications) and Niskanen (not Niskanen as much as the retaining Gudas salary part).

Yes of course we want to add players to improve and I believe those players do but are they players that help get the flyers get to real contender status? Is having Giroux, Voracek, Hayes and JVR on 7 million plus cap hits going to help the Flyers become an elite team?

I get the frustration with Hextall. It was taking too long and we wanted to see progress. See the kids pushed along a bit. Changes made to better the team. But I won’t lie that Fletcher does bring back bad Holmgren (I believe there was also a good Holmgren) nightmares. Obviously building a cup winner is hard. 30 out of 31 teams fail every season and there is urgency with the Flyers because they have become so irrelevant over the last 9 years but you have to build wisely and spend wisely. I still am not confident in the leadership of Holmgren/Fletcher.
- nastyflyergirl

Problem with Flyers was ever that role players did not get any appreciation
But in reality they are also the difference maker if team is a contender
If you compare a builder like Hextall with a buyer like Fletcher it doesn't make a huge difference.
Hextall was betting on TK among others
Fletcher is betting on Hayes

And I don't like both approaches

Hayes is horrible overpaid and TK also in 2 years will not end up as complete player

It’s been done around the league plenty of times.
- Just5

If I was the agent for Sanheim, I would have wanted a bridge deal. He has 1 yr of good production to base a long term deal. Realistically, he would be looking at 5 million per yr. 2 more seasons at similiar production he is going to probably command closer to 8 million per yr. In fact, his agent will be very interested in Trouba s extension whenever it is signed. Risk versus reward.

Sanehim is smart as be is betting on himself to get a huge contract in 2 years. Good for him as he will be very motivated.

My point is Laughton is #4 C. Do you really want to pay 2mil or more on a 4th line guy when we may need additional room for our good rfas?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Laughton is going to cost in the 2 to 2.5 range.

Would have liked to get Sanheim locked up for longer. Lots of new contracts will happen in two years and he's gonna get a huge raise

Sanehim is smart as be is betting on himself to get a huge contract in 2 years. Good for him as he will be very motivated.
- daryl stanley

And a lot can change in two years. Cap can go up, maybe a big contract like Voracek or van Riemsdyk is moved because younger guys are now here. Niskanen is off the books.

Think the deal is pretty sound.

The Flyers have 8 forwards signed with 2 RFAs, 6 dmen signed with 2 RFAs and 1 goalie. Goes to reason after signing the RFAs they will still need to add whether by UFA, promotion or trade 1 goalie and 2-3 forwards. Counting Schlemko’s buried contract they have rounded 22.5 million in cap space. If the rumored numbers for the UFAs are accurate you are looking at 18-20 million. That really doesn’t leave much for the additional goalie and forwards they need to add. This is why I am leery about adding Hayes, Braun (at least there are no long term ramifications) and Niskanen (not Niskanen as much as the retaining Gudas salary part).

Yes of course we want to add players to improve and I believe those players do but are they players that help get the flyers get to real contender status? Is having Giroux, Voracek, Hayes and JVR on 7 million plus cap hits going to help the Flyers become an elite team?

I get the frustration with Hextall. It was taking too long and we wanted to see progress. See the kids pushed along a bit. Changes made to better the team. But I won’t lie that Fletcher does bring back bad Holmgren (I believe there was also a good Holmgren) nightmares. Obviously building a cup winner is hard. 30 out of 31 teams fail every season and there is urgency with the Flyers because they have become so irrelevant over the last 9 years but you have to build wisely and spend wisely. I still am not confident in the leadership of Holmgren/Fletcher.
- nastyflyergirl

No. They are still a playoff bubble team. The two teams in the division they finished ahead of last year adding the following players to their rosters:

NJD Hall (Played 30 games last year). Subban, Hughes.
Rags Kakko, Trouba.

This is before July 1. They both have a fair amount of cap room left as well.
A case can be made the Flyers are the worse team in the division.

Teams like the Islanders, Hurricanes and Jackets may regress. Who knows. Have to see how July 1 plays out. But barring a surprise, what the Flyers have now is pretty much their team.

Seems like a nice deal with the promise of more once Niskanen comes off the books. Kind of times just right.

Wow. maybe this Fletcher guy isn't a total idiot
- J35Bacher

Unpossible — Fletcher hates the Flyers and is a Harvard dummy who cannot do math

No. They are still a playoff bubble team. The two teams in the division they finished ahead of last year adding the following players to their rosters:

NJD Hall (Played 30 games last year). Subban, Hughes.
Rags Kakko, Trouba.

This is before July 1. They both have a fair amount of cap room left as well.
A case can be made the Flyers are the worse team in the division.
- PLindbergh31

Don't forget the Flyers have a huge upgrade in goal this year as well, I would not consider them the worst team in the division by any means.
NJ top two centers are 18 and 20 they have some work to do, and no guarantee Kakko even plays this year with he Rags

If it hasn’t been brought up before...the flyers tanking the last two weeks got them a 2nd round pick. For those who love to chastise that line of thinking.

The GM has really killed this team with his deals. He has hurt the future.
- daryl stanley

It’s almost like he is planning to go hard for the next two years, see where they are and if they can get Giroux over the hump, after six years of plodding along

But that cannot be accurate because he hates the Flyers

No. They are still a playoff bubble team. The two teams in the division they finished ahead of last year adding the following players to their rosters:

NJD Hall (Played 30 games last year). Subban, Hughes.
Rags Kakko, Trouba.

This is before July 1. They both have a fair amount of cap room left as well.
A case can be made the Flyers are the worse team in the division.
- PLindbergh31

IDK why I’m responding to this “negative-Nelly syndrome” comment. The grass is always greener over on the other teams turf. All their warts look better from farther away too.

Don't forget the Flyers have a huge upgrade in goal this year as well, I would not consider them the worst team in the division by any means.
NJ top two centers are 18 and 20 they have some work to do, and no guarantee Kakko even plays this year with he Rags
- Daceroni

True. A full season of Hart should lead an uptick in the standings. I'm sure they aren't going to want to play Hart more than 55 games or so. Who is the backup going to be? Elliott/Talbot aren't the answer.

What if hayes pots 25+ goals and 60+ points the next 3 or 4 years. Will you still hate the contract?
- Richieattack18

didn't use the word hate....said leery. time will tell. I like Hayes and I do believe he makes the team better. i do believe having him as the 2 C could help Patrick in the 3 C role. Have to see the bottom line....the product on the ice over the next few seasons.

I also get Fletcher has to have the opportunity to mold the team he wants. he inherited a lot of contracts. who knows what he really thinks of them. I just am leery about spending to the cap and putting yourself in the position we are seeing Toronto and other teams in.

Good deal for Sanheim. The ball is in his court now to be the defenseman we know he's capable of being so he can cash in in 2 years.

bye bye ghost no longer needed