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daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 24 @ 8:45 PM ET
Get use to this kind of stuff. Flyers are operating as a cap team and as if they're a contender.
- MJL

do you really believe the GM sees them as a cup contender?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 24 @ 8:47 PM ET
do you really believe the GM sees them as a cup contender?
- daryl stanley




No. And that is the point MJL is making.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 24 @ 8:47 PM ET
You get what you pay for. Hartman could be a decent 3rd-liner, heart and soul player, a guy who could grow with the team.

As MJL said... Hartman is the first of what will probably be many cap casualties of the Fletcher era.

- Tomahawk

Sucks being a cap causality when A) You just got here and B) There was plenty of cap space a week ago.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 24 @ 8:50 PM ET
I don t know sure seems to me as long as a team can make the playoffs, almost any team can win it. In the NHL, being a top 2 seed in a conference doesn t guarantee a team anything.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 24 @ 8:56 PM ET
No. And that is the point MJL is making.
- MBFlyerfan

my bad misread it.

They are not acting like a contender. They have needs and he believes he addressed those needs to move the team forward
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 24 @ 8:58 PM ET
Sucks being a cap causality when A) You just got here and B) There was plenty of cap space a week ago.
- SuperSchennBros

When you take into account the 5 RFA, there wasn't plenty of cap space as many are lead to believe.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:08 PM ET
I’m good if they didn’t want to allocate 2+ mil to Hartman this year. Picked up him up cheap in the Simmonds trade. Seems like Pitlick could be a solid 4C for us this year.

Maybe they use the savings on the deal to put towards a more legit 3RW option this summer (hopefully for one year)

- Just5

Would rather have had Nashville's 2nd rounder
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:08 PM ET
Weird trade by carolina. They couldn’t get more for de haan?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:12 PM ET
I don t know sure seems to me as long as a team can make the playoffs, almost any team can win it. In the NHL, being a top 2 seed in a conference doesn t guarantee a team anything.
- ravishingone

going to be hard to be in the top when NJ got hughes and subban and the rangers got trouba when we really didn't push the needle
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:13 PM ET
Weird trade by carolina. They couldn’t get more for de haan?
- Just5

why can't fletcher make robbery like that
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 24 @ 9:17 PM ET
going to be hard to be in the top when NJ got hughes and subban and the rangers got trouba when we really didn't push the needle
- 2Real

The Flyers were already a better team and they did push the needle. Trouba is a difference maker really?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:18 PM ET
going to be hard to be in the top when NJ got hughes and subban and the rangers got trouba when we really didn't push the needle
- 2Real


So you like Schneider or Kinkaid over Hart? Lundqvist is how old? No guarantee Hart improves, but I ll take that chance. Are you assuming the addition of Subban and Trouba is guaranteed to having a greater impact on those teams defense over another yr of experience for Provy, Sanheim, and Myers. We ll see how the season plays out.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:19 PM ET
going to be hard to be in the top when NJ got hughes and subban and the rangers got trouba when we really didn't push the needle
- 2Real


Don’t forget Kakko

Good times
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:20 PM ET
Weird trade by carolina. They couldn’t get more for de haan?
- Just5


Carolina must believe Forsberg will end their carousel at goalie. Hawks betting on Crawford staying healthy I guess.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:34 PM ET
my bad misread it.

They are not acting like a contender. They have needs and he believes he addressed those needs to move the team forward

- daryl stanley






I agree they are not to a point.

His point I believe, and I agree, is that a team who is not a contender should not be spending to the cap limit the way they are.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:35 PM ET
When you take into account the 5 RFA, there wasn't plenty of cap space as many are lead to believe.
- daryl stanley




Which is why I have a real problem with the Braun trade.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 24 @ 9:38 PM ET
When you take into account the 5 RFA, there wasn't plenty of cap space as many are lead to believe.
- daryl stanley

When you take into account the trades, major signings and buyout, there was.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:38 PM ET
Which is why I have a real problem with the Braun trade.
- MBFlyerfan

Unless there is something more, should have stopped with the D after trading for Nisakanen.

Still betting on Ghost being traded.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:41 PM ET
Unless there is something more, should have stopped with the D after trading for Nisakanen.

Still betting on Ghost being traded.

- FlyerFan16



Which is insane isn't it? Don't trade for Braun and keep Ghost, or trade for Braun and have to lose Ghost or even Hagg.

That is nuts.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:43 PM ET
I agree they are not to a point.

His point I believe, and I agree, is that a team who is not a contender should not be spending to the cap limit the way they are.

- MBFlyerfan

or trading 2 & 3 rders for ufa 3rd pairing dmen
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
or trading 2 & 3 rders for ufa 3rd pairing dmen
- KINGKENZO



Agreed
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
What is the annual salary prediction of Zuccarello?
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:49 PM ET
Which is insane isn't it? Don't trade for Braun and keep Ghost, or trade for Braun and have to lose Ghost or even Hagg.

That is nuts.

- MBFlyerfan

Yes it is. Just waiting to see what happens in the next week.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:50 PM ET
What is the annual salary prediction of Zuccarello?
- Flyers1218

More than the Flyers can afford.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:51 PM ET
So you like Schneider or Kinkaid over Hart? Lundqvist is how old? No guarantee Hart improves, but I ll take that chance. Are you assuming the addition of Subban and Trouba is guaranteed to having a greater impact on those teams defense over another yr of experience for Provy, Sanheim, and Myers. We ll see how the season plays out.
- ravishingone

but the flyers couldnt beat the Devils when they were icing an AHL team. Now add Hall, Subban and probably Hughs
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