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bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:18 PM ET
Last year in Dallas Pitlick had 70% of his shifts start in the d-zone and his Corsi was about even relative to his team. Chipped in 8-4-12 in 47 games which I guess isnt awful considering how little offensive zone time he got
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:18 PM ET
He’s a 13th forward type....
- landros 2

So we traded a bonified starter for a utility bench player? Is this to avoid the UFA payout?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
Not quite sure what to feel about it other than to say soft team keeps getting softer?
- opeth_pa


Pitlick averages more hits per game than Hartman
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
Sure beats getting Lance. 😉
- tangent_man



At least Lance was tough.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
At least Lance was tough.
- landros 2


Idk what you consider as a proxy for toughness but Pitlick gets more hits than Hartman
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
Pitlick averages more hits per game than Hartman
- bulet13



I guess I should do research before being passive Team Negative..

I'll own that one!
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
Sure beats getting Lance. 😉
- tangent_man

Does it?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
No question now. Simmonds was moved a year too late.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
Hartman probably wanted x amount so he moved him is my guess. Unless it was a lot still would have kept him for 1 year if possible
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
Does it?
- Dkos


Point taken.

At least Tyler doesn’t spend a lot of time in the penalty box. Press box, maybe.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
No question now. Simmonds was moved a year too late.
- hereticpride


I'm not sure that was ever a question
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
I'm not sure that was ever a question
- bulet13

The Simmonds/Hextall super fans here would have you think otherwise.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
I really have no opinion when 4th liners are traded for one another. I guess one could make the argument Hartman could play 3rd line. I m good with giving Frost a shot at wing coming out of camp. Wouldn t want him pkaying 4 th linr.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
Point taken.

At least Tyler doesn’t spend a lot of time in the penalty box. Press box, maybe.

- tangent_man


Other than taking a few bad penalties, I barely noticed Hartman while he was with the Flyers
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 5:30 PM ET
Other than taking a few bad penalties, I barely noticed Hartman while he was with the Flyers
- Dkos


He did have the obligatory “great first game as a flyer” though

And now he’ll get the complimentary “first game goal against the flyers after being traded”
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:30 PM ET
I really have no opinion when 4th liners are traded for one another. I guess one could make the argument Hartman could play 3rd line. I m good with giving Frost a shot at wing coming out of camp. Wouldn t want him pkaying 4 th linr.
- ravishingone

Frost would be out of position at RW I believe. He plays center and left wing. I presume the LW depth goes G, JVR, Linblom, Raffl. I'm not really sure where Frost would play this year other than the 4th line...
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:31 PM ET
Sure beats getting Lance Armstrong and all of his dope, that would have made flyers fittest of them all!! 😉
- tangent_man

Darn! But still some Coke in the locker!! After Lehtera 👍
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
Other than taking a few bad penalties, I barely noticed Hartman while he was with the Flyers
- Dkos


Those last 19 games that he played in, nobody on the team made a big splash.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:34 PM ET
Point taken.

At least Tyler doesn’t spend a lot of time in the penalty box. Press box, maybe.

- tangent_man

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:35 PM ET
Frost would out of position at RW I believe. He plays center and left wing. I presume the LW depth goes G, JVR, Linblom, Raffl
- hereticpride


He did play LW iat Worlds. I just wonderif they would give him a shot at RW in a sheltered 3rd line role.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:36 PM ET
Those last 19 games that he played in, nobody on the team made a big splash.
- tangent_man

RFA. It was an opportunity to show what he was worth. I didn’t see much. He wasn’t even particularly aggressive, that I remember. I don’t know anything about Pitlick.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:37 PM ET
The Simmonds trade really is the gift that keeps on giving
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:40 PM ET
He did play LW iat Worlds. I just wonderif they would give him a shot at RW in a sheltered 3rd line role.
- ravishingone

I think he'd sooner end up as the 4th line LW since Raffl can play anywhere. I just don't like the thought of asking him to step into the league at a position he doesn't play.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:42 PM ET
I think he'd sooner end up as the 4th line LW since Raffl can play anywhere. I just don't like the thought of asking him to step into the league at a position he doesn't play.
- hereticpride


Certainly understandable. I think they view Pitlick as better defensively then Hartman. Let s face it, the team defense last season was pretty bad. A game plan of trying to protect Hart is not a bad thing.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:44 PM ET
RFA. It was an opportunity to show what he was worth. I didn’t see much. He wasn’t even particularly aggressive, that I remember. I don’t know anything about Pitlick.
- Dkos


Seems like Pitlick does better at the AHL level, but his million dollar cap hit is manageable. Just another natural center that will probably sit more than he plays.
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