But did the Hawks really need Campbell or Hossa?

The screw up for TOR was paying Matthew's, Nylander and soon to be Marner the huge deals prior to winning anything. Had that group signed 2-3yr bridge deals, it would have allowed them wiggle room for depth players and time to grow as a group and possibly win 1 championship - which what would that do in a city like TOR?

Instead, they paid out the RFA's they didnt HAVE to, before they won anything

So all those wanting to pay ADB and/or Stome based on the TOR model....that's exactly what you are signing up for.
- PatShart

Then from this perspective, the screw up started with EDM paying McDavid. $12.5AAV after his ELC expired (they also signed Leon for $8.5 after his ELC).

When Kane and Toews signed their bridge deals they amounted to about 11% of the cap each. When McDavid's kicked in it was 15.5%. 11% of next years cap would be $9M, so signing ADB to something around 7-8/year would be fine by me. I'm much more interested in signing guys for expected future results vs past results (with the obvious caveat being age and length of term).

Strome is a different story. Even with another year like he had to finish out last year, I wouldn't throw more than $5MAAV at him. I will also beat this drum until I'm blue in the face, don't sign any contracts more than 5 years in length.

Connolly is a VERY underrated and underappreciated 3rd line scoring winger. Former 1st round pick that was a Key Depth Scorer for the Caps in their Cup win. Great speed, shoot first player, 6'2" and former 6th overall pick. Connnolly is still only 27 so he would be a great addition..46 points last year and can play up and down the lineup.

Zuccarello is a warrior, but he was injured A LOT last year and is 31 years old at 5'7...his best production is in the rearview mirror IMO pass on Zucs.
- EnzoD

Connolly doesn't have great speed. He has Anisimov speed

2 of the whole list or 2 from FA?

I would get Pavelski for sure if available
- gifman

Maybe one from column A and one from Column B. I still want a top 4 D and think the trade route for one is better than the available UFAs.

But I will say, Pavelski makes so much sense for the Hawks that it hurts.

Almost too good to be true. If San Jose is truly unable to find a way to come to terms with him, he should be priority A for Stan.

The kind of injection to the team the Hawks desperately need.
- TommyHawk

My guess is that Pavelski will get more dollars and longer term from another team than the Hawks would be interested in. He would really need to want to play for the Hawks to pass up better offers. But that would be true for most free agents this year. With Colliton as coach, I just don't expect that burning desire to be a Hawk to be so great that free agents would pass up dollars or term to play for the Hawks. No knock on Colliton, but he has no track record.

Love it.

They definitely saw something in this kid. He's a special bread and there won't be any questions about his commitment or work ethic. The kid sleeps and breaths hockey.
- Tyler Cameron

I didn't hear or see today's presser but, I did hear Dach interviewed after he was drafted. What I noticed that for an 18 y.o. he used no "crutch" words such as, "like" or "uh or "kinda" as so many of the younger generation seem to do.

He came across as very well-spoken.

2 of the whole list or 2 from FA?

I would get Pavelski for sure if available
- gifman

One of the D from trade and one of those FA's

But I will say, Pavelski makes so much sense for the Hawks that it hurts.

Almost too good to be true. If San Jose is truly unable to find a way to come to terms with him, he should be priority A for Stan.

The kind of injection to the team the Hawks desperately need.
- TommyHawk

Pavelski teaching Dach finer points of the slot tip....

Still not sure how another d-man is added. Let’s assume de Haan is the target, who becomes the odd man out? I don’t think Colliton wants Gus moved, and I don’t think the team gives up on Joker just yet. Murphy doesn’t seem like he’d be moved considering the fact that the team wants to get better in their own zone and he has a pretty solid contract for what he offers.

I think two higher-end forwards makes some sense, but ultimately would require moving a couple of the younger kids that are still fighting for spots (Caggiula, Perlini, Sikura, etc.)

Gonna be interesting to see what transpires.
- TommyHawk

I think either or both of Murphy and Gus are moved for "upgrades" and Seabrook sits as the league's most expensive 7th defenseman.

Murphy only has value if somebody wants to swallow that multi-year cap hit. He is probably worth more to the Hawks at this point since the only way they have a viable replacement is if Boqvist is ready, (and he probably won't replace the defensive blue line that Murphy provides). Ditto Anisimov - I'd be surprised if there is a big market at his cap hit. I would not trade Saad - it will leave a hole they have nobody to fill.

As for Gustafsson, though his low cap hit probably makes him easier to move, he too is probably worth more to the Hawks than what they'll receive in return.

Would much rather give Joe 3 years than give Lee, Nyquist, Zucc, etc. 5+ year terms.

That’s also not how Stan operates, so I foresee either short term (3-year) type deals on the horizon, or acquiring players who are still under contract for a little while. Seems like all the players Stan has acquired in recent years (except for deadline moves) have all hadn’t players under contract for a little while longer.

I think Stan has learned his lesson about being hamstrung by lengthy deals.
- TommyHawk

I believe the Hawks are saying one thing but are going to do another, remember the draft, not a peep about Dach, yes they are showing interest but the price and term will have to make sense.

I believe Bowman has us on a great path, no reason to (frank) it all up with a bad contract.

Zawaski


I have a #Blackhawks report coming up next on @LaurenceWHolmes’ show. I add a new name to the trade mix. Sources are talkin’!


Let me know what this goof said
- mrpaulish

Frolik!

I think either or both of Murphy and Gus are moved for "upgrades" and Seabrook sits as the league's most expensive 7th defenseman.
- Popsghostly

If the Hawks land De Haan, their blue line will be drastically different than last years w the addition of Maata.

Zawaski


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Let me know what this goof said
- mrpaulish

Seriously thought - de Haan

Once McDavid and Eichel signed for the big bucks off their ELCs, the die was cast for Matthews, Nylander, and Marner. One could argue Nylander should have been moved for defense when he held out, but that ship has sailed for the Leafs. The bridge deal for high end talent seems to have gone the way of the dodo.
- Davewn

I agree that the agents used McDavids contract as a comparison. And those max deals prior to winning are why those teams will continue to search for championships

So does ADB and Strome want that as well...or do they want a Cup?

If they want the money the Hawks should let them shop for contracts as RFA's and maybe take the compensation

I dont think the Hawks should go more than -
Strome- 3yrs 12-14mil max
ADB -3yrs 16-18mil max

They can then cash in IF they take the team to the next level/back to playoffs and win a round or 2. That will coincide with 88/19/2 contracts ending and Strome/ADB can cash in if they earned it at that point

Murphy only has value if somebody wants to swallow that multi-year cap hit. He is probably worth more to the Hawks at this point since the only way they have a viable replacement is if Boqvist is ready, (and he probably won't replace the defensive blue line that Murphy provides). Ditto Anisimov - I'd be surprised if there is a big market at his cap hit. I would not trade Saad - it will leave a hole they have nobody to fill.

As for Gustafsson, though his low cap hit probably makes him easier to move, he too is probably worth more to the Hawks than what they'll receive in return.
- jrsamu

Murphy has value to some team because he is signed for the 21/22 season and could be exposed to the Seattle draft.

I agree that the agents used McDavids contract as a comparison. And those max deals prior to winning are why those teams will continue to search for championships

So does ADB and Strome want that as well...or do they want a Cup?

If they want the money the Hawks should let them shop for contracts as RFA's and maybe take the compensation

I dont think the Hawks should go more than -
Strome- 3yrs 12-14mil max
ADB -3yrs 16-18mil max

They can then cash in IF they take the team to the next level/back to playoffs and win a round or 2. That will coincide with 88/19/2 contracts ending and Strome/ADB can cash in if they earned it at that point
- PatShart

Be prepared to be disappointed.

I don't know if this was discussed, but I read that that Bowman tried to trade Seabrook + the #3 pick to Vancouver for the #10 pick.

Interesting that Stan valued getting rid of Seabrook's contract more than acquiring a big center in Dach.

Since it seems to be a topic, and it looks like there is some misinformation, the CapFriendly buyout calculator tool shows the following cap hits for Brent Seabrook:

2019-20 - $3,708,333
2020-21 - $6,708,333
2021-22 - $3,708,333
2022-23 - $6,708,333
2023-24 - $5,208,333
2024-25 through 2028-29 - $833,333
- tgentry1084

I understood 2 years of full cap hit...i thought they were consectutive...even worse than I thought..no way the hawks are doing that to save about 8 mil over 5 years

I don't know if this was discussed, but I read that that Bowman tried to trade Seabrook + the #3 pick to Vancouver for the #10 pick.

Interesting that Stan valued getting rid of Seabrook's contract more than acquiring a big center in Dach.
- RedRevenge

Fake news

But did the Hawks really need Campbell or Hossa?

The screw up for TOR was paying Matthew's, Nylander and soon to be Marner the huge deals prior to winning anything. Had that group signed 2-3yr bridge deals, it would have allowed them wiggle room for depth players and time to grow as a group and possibly win 1 championship - which what would that do in a city like TOR?

Instead, they paid out the RFA's they didnt HAVE to, before they won anything

So all those wanting to pay ADB and/or Stome based on the TOR model....that's exactly what you are signing up for.
- PatShart

I'm all for trading ADB/Strome if they are to expensive

Fake news
- LAHawk

https://www.secondcityhoc...t-seabrook-2019-nhl-draft

Maybe working on a 3 way deal with Vegas and Carolina. ??

I don't know if this was discussed, but I read that that Bowman tried to trade Seabrook + the #3 pick to Vancouver for the #10 pick.

Interesting that Stan valued getting rid of Seabrook's contract more than acquiring a big center in Dach.
- RedRevenge

Really? I think it's a way to see how serious the Canucks were. I guess they weren't, it's called having the better hand, did you see Bowman's smile when he got up from the table to go on stage, kid in a candy store

Maybe working on a 3 way deal with Vegas and Carolina. ??
- mrpaulish

A 3 way involving Vegas, how ironic.

Marcus Johansson or Micheal Ferland anybody?

I think Johansson would be a good add and not to expensive