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chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 12:36 PM ET
Between miller trade and the impending overpayment of myers, there’s not much positive. I for one really like what Miller brings, but now i find myself hoping we don’t make the playoffs next year even though i think this od a bubble team... which kind of sucks. If we made it to the playoffs and pulled a first round upset that could be another positive outcome i guess
- neem55



Please dont take this as a criticism at you, but, what I find so (frank)in frustrating is fans hoping the Canucks lose to acquire a potential "star" to get better.

Like they actually cheer for the Canucks to lose.

The team's trajectory is up, so, I applaud the efforts of management to try and supplement that with a strong proven commodity versus a virtual lottery ticket bottom half 1st round pick with no guarantee this pick will become anything.

Obviously it can, but the numbers dont support it. Its a calculated risk that could backfire but the numbers are in the Canucks favor here.

How can you cheer for your team to lose and call yourself a fan? That poop boggles my mind.

If JB signs Myers, so be it. Its not my money and it night just actually help the team. What a novel idea! It could be a positive! it could also blow up, but we will have to wait and see on that.....its not like players improve or anything on a new team ever....
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 25 @ 12:39 PM ET
Between miller trade and the impending overpayment of myers, there’s not much positive. I for one really like what Miller brings, but now i find myself hoping we don’t make the playoffs next year even though i think this od a bubble team... which kind of sucks. If we made it to the playoffs and pulled a first round upset that could be another positive outcome i guess
- neem55

My only issue with the trade was the condition. I would much prefer the condition to be a 2020 2nd and 2021 2nd if we fail to make playoffs. If we make the playoffs, I don't mind losing a first for a player that will give us a total of 4 good years and can be flipped in the last year if we need to. Our prospect pool has never been stronger, and can handle loosing a pick between 16-31 next year. But it can't handle losing a potential top 10 pick in 2021 for Miller.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 25 @ 12:39 PM ET
Goldy seems like a not bad piece for edmonton too, they need someone on that powerplay and for all his faults he can do that
- neem55

Goldy for Pulj?
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 12:40 PM ET
I'm angry as (frank) people - come at me!

Cum guzzling bipolar or pom pommer......chompsey is taking on all comers today!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:45 PM ET
We have a Hutton for sale
- CanuckDon


Nope, we get zero for him.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:47 PM ET
Between miller trade and the impending overpayment of myers, there’s not much positive. I for one really like what Miller brings, but now i find myself hoping we don’t make the playoffs next year even though i think this od a bubble team... which kind of sucks. If we made it to the playoffs and pulled a first round upset that could be another positive outcome i guess
- neem55


I really like Miller, I think he'll be a great fit and hope, on top of his skill, that he brings a bit of the energy/grit that they lost with Dorsett.

The first rounder stung me for a bit, especially since the conditions were not based on Miller's performance, but ultimately I thought they would need to tank one more year before going for it, so it kinda fits in my expected timeline of getting in once over the next two years. At least now there is some pressure/direction, the last couple seasons have felt like "we might contend, or play kids, we'll see how we feel each week"
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
I really like Miller, I think he'll be a great fit and hope, on top of his skill, that he brings a bit of the energy/grit that they lost with Dorsett.

The first rounder stung me for a bit, especially since the conditions were not based on Miller's performance, but ultimately I thought they would need to tank one more year before going for it, so it kinda fits in my expected timeline of getting in once over the next two years. At least now there is some pressure/direction, the last couple seasons have felt like "we might contend, or play kids, we'll see how we feel each week"

- WhiteLie



The over payment shouldn't come as a surprise, that's the teams MO when they set their sights on someone.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
The over payment shouldn't come as a surprise, that's the teams MO when they set their sights on someone.
- VanHockeyGuy


I bought into the hype that this was the offseason for predatory deals to be made with cap-strapped teams
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
I really like Miller, I think he'll be a great fit and hope, on top of his skill, that he brings a bit of the energy/grit that they lost with Dorsett.

The first rounder stung me for a bit, especially since the conditions were not based on Miller's performance, but ultimately I thought they would need to tank one more year before going for it, so it kinda fits in my expected timeline of getting in once over the next two years. At least now there is some pressure/direction, the last couple seasons have felt like "we might contend, or play kids, we'll see how we feel each week"

- WhiteLie

At least this should unite the fanbase into hoping for the most successful season possible this year?
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
I bought into the hype that this was the offseason for predatory deals to be made with cap-strapped teams
- WhiteLie



Collusion
93Nucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 04.04.2018

Jun 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
At least this should unite the fanbase into hoping for the most successful season possible this year?
- NorthNuck

I want playoffs for us. Even if we get bounced, it be nice to have our guys experience the different beast that playoffs are.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
I'm angry as (frank) people - come at me!

Cum guzzling bipolar or pom pommer......chompsey is taking on all comers today!

- chompsey

So angry. It makes my mitts tingle.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
I want playoffs for us. Even if we get bounced, it be nice to have our guys experience the different beast that playoffs are.
- 93Nucks

Same, the sooner the young guys experience it the better
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
I'm angry as (frank) people - come at me!

Cum guzzling bipolar or pom pommer......chompsey is taking on all comers today!

- chompsey

Bro, you’re defending Loui Eriksson.

You might as well go punch a mirror
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
At least this should unite the fanbase into hoping for the most successful season possible this year?
- NorthNuck


I am ok if they keep their pick this year and have a strong season the following year. As it currently stands, I don't think they have the depth to weather the usual amount of injuries this team faces and stay in the hunt, but its still super early and lots of changes can still happen
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 1:16 PM ET
Bro, you’re defending Loui Eriksson.

You might as well go punch a mirror

- Nucker101



I did, because little things is a (frank)in boss. TG is the pile of poop who is running this team into the ground....TG is gone by Christmas - Canuck thread historian, whoever the monkey (frank) you are, document it....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 1:16 PM ET
So angry. It makes my mitts tingle.
- thundachunk



Great, how does your poop bucket feel?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:20 PM ET
Great, how does your poop bucket feel?
- chompsey

Ready to burst.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:23 PM ET
Was talking with a relative of Brett Connolly last night. Said he was hoping to sign in Vancouver. Will be interesting to see if that comes true.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
Was talking with a relative of Brett Connolly last night. Said he was hoping to sign in Vancouver. Will be interesting to see if that comes true.
- YeOldTimer

Connolly would be great with Leivo and gaudette. Then you can explore trading Jake.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:45 PM ET
Please dont take this as a criticism at you, but, what I find so (frank)in frustrating is fans hoping the Canucks lose to acquire a potential "star" to get better.

Like they actually cheer for the Canucks to lose.

The team's trajectory is up, so, I applaud the efforts of management to try and supplement that with a strong proven commodity versus a virtual lottery ticket bottom half 1st round pick with no guarantee this pick will become anything.

Obviously it can, but the numbers dont support it. Its a calculated risk that could backfire but the numbers are in the Canucks favor here.

How can you cheer for your team to lose and call yourself a fan? That poop boggles my mind.

If JB signs Myers, so be it. Its not my money and it night just actually help the team. What a novel idea! It could be a positive! it could also blow up, but we will have to wait and see on that.....its not like players improve or anything on a new team ever....

- chompsey

Agreed fully. It's frustrating to see.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:50 PM ET
Connolly would be great with Leivo and gaudette. Then you can explore trading Jake.
- CanuckDon

Why would you want to ship Jake out in favour of a 27 year old 25 point guy who is about to get overpaid?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:59 PM ET
Connolly would be great with Leivo and gaudette. Then you can explore trading Jake.
- CanuckDon


Seems like a sideways/backward move considering the age/salary difference.

People really need to get over Jake’s draft status

Connolly is one of those corsi/playoff run dudes who’s about to get overpaid. If I was a team looking for bottom 6 help, I’d look at whoever is cheapest out of Colin Wilson, Oscar Lindberg and Ryan Carpenter


Canucks need to stop buying high ffs
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:59 PM ET
Why would you want to ship Jake out in favour of a 27 year old 25 point guy who is about to get overpaid?
- NorthNuck


Connolly had 22 goals and 46 points playing 3rd lines minutes and no PP last year. They might be looking at him and Miller as guys who see an increase in production moving up to top 6 roles. Then Leivo, Gaudette and Jake become your third line.

Miller is RH and Connolly is LH.

Edit: Other way around. Connolly RH and Miller LH
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 25 @ 1:59 PM ET
Why would you want to ship Jake out in favour of a 27 year old 25 point guy who is about to get overpaid?
- NorthNuck

He had 46 points last season. I doubt Jake ever scores 46. Jake and Hutton are party boys. Don’t want them polluting the locker room
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