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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:41 AM ET
Magic wand time:

Miller-Pettersson-Boeser
Ferland-Bo-JV
Pearson-Gaudette-Pulijarvi
Rousell-Beagle-Brown
Leivo-Motte-Goldobin

Edler-Zaitsev
Saunter-Barrie
Hughes-Schenn
OJ-Rafferty

Ferland signed as UFA 5/5
Barrie traded for Tanev and Sven.
Stetcher traded for Pulijarvi and a 3rd.
3rd flipped to TML for Zaitsev and Brown.
Sutter flipped for a 4th.
Hutton dumped, Spooner to Utica.
Eriksson comes down with an allergy to his equipment.

- dbot


1 flaw only...the e-draft 7/3

Miller EP Boeser
Pearson Bo JP
Goldy Gaudette JV
Leivo Beagle Roussel
Motte MacEwen

Edler Barrie
Hughes Schenn
Sautner Rafferty
Brisebois (OJ)

Keep the 3rd & no to Zaitsev/Brown
-cap is more important
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 6:02 AM ET
1 flaw only...the e-draft 7/3

Miller EP Boeser
Pearson Bo JP
Goldy Gaudette JV
Leivo Beagle Roussel
Motte MacEwen

Edler Barrie
Hughes Schenn
Sautner Rafferty
Brisebois (OJ)

Keep the 3rd & no to Zaitsev/Brown
-cap is more important

- Nighthawk



Oh there are plenty of flaws with my fantasy proposal. But, I'd gladly have the problem of having too many good players on the team, that one gets sacrificed to Seattle.

Pulijarvi has not shown he can play in a top 6 imo.
Goldy does not belong on that line with JV and Gaudette either imo.
3 rookie Dmen and 2 on a line is a recipe for disaster, and would mean Hutton is retained.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 25 @ 9:39 AM ET
Oh there are plenty of flaws with my fantasy proposal. But, I'd gladly have the problem of having too many good players on the team, that one gets sacrificed to Seattle.

Pulijarvi has not shown he can play in a top 6 imo.
Goldy does not belong on that line with JV and Gaudette either imo.
3 rookie Dmen and 2 on a line is a recipe for disaster, and would mean Hutton is retained.

- dbot

Pullijarvi is gonna be a star. Just not in Edmonton.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:40 AM ET
Oh there are plenty of flaws with my fantasy proposal. But, I'd gladly have the problem of having too many good players on the team, that one gets sacrificed to Seattle.

Pulijarvi has not shown he can play in a top 6 imo.
Goldy does not belong on that line with JV and Gaudette either imo.
3 rookie Dmen and 2 on a line is a recipe for disaster, and would mean Hutton is retained.

- dbot

Goldie doesn't belong in this league....and won't be for much longer
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 9:47 AM ET
Goldie doesn't belong in this league....and won't be for much longer
- Bullfrog77


And yet he is going to get a contract with the Canucks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 25 @ 9:53 AM ET
And yet he is going to get a contract with the Canucks.
- 1970vintage



It's a decoy so fans can be outraged over this contract and when the real outrageous contract is signed next week Canucks fans will be all outraged out.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:55 AM ET
And yet he is going to get a contract with the Canucks.
- 1970vintage

Maybe...but I doubt he makes the team. He's not better then the top six we have and he is useless in bottom six role so where does that leave him? Press box until injuries hit perhaps....or down to Utica?
Fenywick
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 25 @ 9:59 AM ET
Carol,

I just saw on The Score that Elliot Freidman wrote that Canucks won't be qualifying Ben Hutton. Do you think it would make sense for the Canucks to do a trade with the Oilers to swap RFA's? Hutton for Puljujarvi?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:01 AM ET
Carol,

I just saw on The Score that Elliot Freidman wrote that Canucks won't be qualifying Ben Hutton. Do you think it would make sense for the Canucks to do a trade with the Oilers to swap RFA's? Hutton for Puljujarvi?

- Fenywick


Canucks would have to add a bit, but I’d definitely make that trade.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:02 AM ET
And yet he is going to get a contract with the Canucks.
- 1970vintage


Probably only a one year show me contract. If he has a good offseason and comes in stronger, then great. If it’s the same as last year, pump and dump or just straight up dump. Not the worst thing.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:10 AM ET
It's a decoy so fans can be outraged over this contract and when the real outrageous contract is signed next week Canucks fans will be all outraged out.
- VANTEL


SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
Moving Tanev is counterproductive without getting another RHD. Hard enough already to get one without moving him.
- Nighthawk

Absolutely. .....beyond crazy to be trading away your good D when the D is as weak as it is
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
Probably only a one year show me contract. If he has a good offseason and comes in stronger, then great. If it’s the same as last year, pump and dump or just straight up dump. Not the worst thing.
- NewYorkNuck


I wonder if this makes the Granlund - Shinky trade a wash now?

Also, Goldy is still probably the best fit with Petey. Until next week when we sign Panarin anyway.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 10:14 AM ET
I can’t count Edler getting a reasonable contract as a win, he still gave an aging defenseman big cash and a no-move, we’ve just been numbed by such bad contracts that we feel good when we give one for slightly above market value. It isn’t like Benning got a hometown discount
- WhiteLie




Ah yes, the patented, all wins are not wins for JB, but all losses are JB's fault...you cum guzzlers will never stop with that narrative eh?
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
I wonder if this makes the Granlund - Shinky trade a wash now?
- 1970vintage



Granlund played 219 games for Vancouver, Shinkaruk played 14 games for Calgary.....Im pretty sure thats still a win for Vancouver even when its a pretty inconsequential transaction....
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:18 AM ET
Ah yes, the patented, all wins are not wins for JB, but all losses are JB's fault...you cum guzzlers will never stop with that narrative eh?
- chompsey


Sorry, you feel good about that deal? The fan base has been bracing themselves for this signing for months. “If it’s 3 years I’m going to burn the city down - it’s only 2? Ok I can live with that...”

Pathetic bunch of lemmings.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:20 AM ET
Granlund played 219 games for Vancouver, Shinkaruk played 14 games for Calgary.....Im pretty sure thats still a win for Vancouver even when its a pretty inconsequential transaction....
- chompsey


Is games played the measuring stick? Even if most of those games were losses?
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
Carol,

I just saw on The Score that Elliot Freidman wrote that Canucks won't be qualifying Ben Hutton. Do you think it would make sense for the Canucks to do a trade with the Oilers to swap RFA's? Hutton for Puljujarvi?

- Fenywick

Of course it does
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
Sorry, you feel good about that deal? The fan base has been bracing themselves for this signing for months. “If it’s 3 years I’m going to burn the city down - it’s only 2? Ok I can live with that...”

Pathetic bunch of lemmings.

- 1970vintage



Did I say that I felt that is was good deal? Is your comprehension skills lacking this morning?

Was commenting on the endless JB bashing...
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Is games played the measuring stick? Even if most of those games were losses?
- 1970vintage



How else would you like to measure it? Is there a satisfactory statistic that will satiate the hate? Is Granlund responsible for the losses? Would Shinkaruk given Vancouver more wins? Pretty subjective poop.....
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
How else would you like to measure it? Is there a satisfactory statistic that will satiate the hate? Is Granlund responsible for the losses? Would Shinkaruk given Vancouver more wins? Pretty subjective poop.....
- chompsey


I don’t know, just trying to pick a fight, guess it isn’t working. I mean come on, you have three hours on me, I’ve barely had my first coffee and you're probably already on your third beer.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
Did I say that I felt that is was good deal? Is your comprehension skills lacking this morning?

Was commenting on the endless JB bashing...

- chompsey


I wouldn’t put Whitey in with the BB’s, he’s more of a keeping it real kinda guy.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
Granlund played 219 games for Vancouver, Shinkaruk played 14 games for Calgary.....Im pretty sure thats still a win for Vancouver even when its a pretty inconsequential transaction....
- chompsey


Granlund is an AHLer on a decent team and a NHLer on a bad team ...canucks got better and now Granlund is back to where he was in cgy ...looking for somewhere else to play
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
Granlund is an AHLer on a decent team and a NHLer on a bad team ...canucks got better and now Granlund is back to where he was in cgy ...looking for somewhere else to play
- Redmile247


Are you suggesting that had the trade not occurred, Hunter could have played more NHL games in Vancouver?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
Ah yes, the patented, all wins are not wins for JB, but all losses are JB's fault...you cum guzzlers will never stop with that narrative eh?
- chompsey


In the context of my original post, getting a fair deal isn't playing hardball. I like the deal, he did well; but Edler getting market value on a 2-year deal isn't some home-run win.

Someone said it was time for him to play hardball and I just don't see him as that kind of GM. I have a few areas where I wish Benning was stronger, but overall I have been fine with and understood many of his moves, even when they dont work out
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