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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:56 PM ET
Artemi changes the game for us. Trades would have to start happening along with buyouts.

Buch Zib Kravtsov
Panarin Chytil Meier
Lemieux Howden Kakko

Kreider Andersson 2020 1st Miller for Meier

- nyrangers9479


Thats going to be a good selling point to get Panarin.

Hey we are putting you on the 2nd line. A rookie and a guy who is incredibly inconsistent are ahead of you.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:56 PM ET
NO trading Miller!!!!!!
- rrentz

N Lundqvist?
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 7:57 PM ET
N Lundqvist?
- nyrangers9479



D much harder to come by. I wouldn't want to trade either, but Miller has the ceiling of a superstar
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:57 PM ET
Thats going to be a good selling point to get Panarin.

Hey we are putting you on the 2nd line. A rookie and a guy who is incredibly inconsistent are ahead of you.

- mdw7413

It’s to balance out the lines. I’m pretty sure ur the one that used to call me crazy about Shattenkirk not being on the top pair bc we were paying him almost 7 million. Howd that work out for u.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:58 PM ET
D much harder to come by. I wouldn't want to trade either, but Miller has the ceiling of a superstar
- rrentz

We have a pretty good young core on the right side with Trouba/ADA/Fox
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:59 PM ET
It’s to balance out the lines. I’m pretty sure ur the one that used to call me crazy about Shattenkirk not being on the top pair bc we were paying him almost 7 million. Howd that work out for u.
- nyrangers9479


Like usual you are wrong. How that work out for u?
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 26 @ 7:59 PM ET
They’re not just guna let him go, he’s a top line winger that has a 30 goal season under his belt at 22 years old.
- nyrangers9479


They might have to though.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 8:00 PM ET
We have a pretty good young core on the right side with Trouba/ADA/Fox
- nyrangers9479



Yes, but I would hate to trade any 1st round dman untill we know what they are. Can never have too many top d prospects. Took a long time to build the future. Not too long actually. Thanks Gorton!
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:04 PM ET
Like usual you are wrong. How that work out for u?
- mdw7413

No, pretty sure Shattenkirk wasn’t on the top pair. I mean, he definitely deserves to be though right?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:06 PM ET
No, pretty sure Shattenkirk wasn’t on the top pair. I mean, he definitely deserves to be though right?
- nyrangers9479

I have never once argued for any player to be on a top pairing or top forward line because of their salary. Just accept you were wrong and move on.

Panarin would play on the top line because he would be the best winger we have by miles. You put him with Zib, not a center who has played maybe 30 games at center
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:13 PM ET
I have never once argued for any player to be on a top pairing or top forward line because of their salary. Just accept you were wrong and move on.

Panarin would play on the top line because he would be the best winger we have by miles. You put him with Zib, not a center who has played maybe 30 games at center

- mdw7413

You absolutely have and if I cared enough I’d go back to the old blogs.
Panarin is the type of player that makes the guys he plays with better. I would bet Panarin plays more than 50% of games not with Zib. You can’t have Chytil with 1 year experience centering 2 rookies on the 2nd line. We’d be a 1 line team that would be easy to match up against. What looks better to you matchup wise:

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Buch Chytil Kakko
Or
Buch Zib Kravtsov
Panarin Chytil Kakko

Chytil has a career high 23 points and Kakko has never played an NHL game......I’d take the 2nd option
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jun 26 @ 8:35 PM ET
N Lundqvist?
- nyrangers9479

Why can’t we just keep our great prospects?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 26 @ 8:35 PM ET
I'd like to point out that this blog has no trouble going off the rails without me.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:37 PM ET
Why can’t we just keep our great prospects?
- Bean_Dip

Bc if you want Meier they’re going to want more than Marc Staal and Kevin Shattenkirk
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:41 PM ET
You absolutely have and if I cared enough I’d go back to the old blogs.
Panarin is the type of player that makes the guys he plays with better. I would bet Panarin plays more than 50% of games not with Zib. You can’t have Chytil with 1 year experience centering 2 rookies on the 2nd line. We’d be a 1 line team that would be easy to match up against. What looks better to you matchup wise:

Panarin Zib Kravtsov
Buch Chytil Kakko
Or
Buch Zib Kravtsov
Panarin Chytil Kakko

Chytil has a career high 23 points and Kakko has never played an NHL game......I’d take the 2nd option

- nyrangers9479


Well Kreider is most likely going to be here, and I don't know if Quinn is willing to throw both Kakko and Kravtsov into the top 6. So those options are probably not right.

Also check your PM
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:41 PM ET
I'd like to point out that this blog has no trouble going off the rails without me.
- JRR1285


(frank) off
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:41 PM ET
Taking on a decent $ hit for the future even if Dan Girardi's buyout expires after this year by buying out Shattenkirk and Smith. I think Smith is more likely to be bought out.
- airjan23


In both players having two years remaining on their contracts, the killer is Buyout Year Two of 2020/21, with Shatty's buyout charge of $6,083,333 and Smith's at $3,145,833 in dead cap space. Otherwise, in the other 3 years, Shatty's annual cap hit charge is $1,483,333 and Smith's $1,145,833, totaling $2,629,166 in dead cap space.
Shatty's total 4 year buyout cost is $10,433,332, while Smith's is $6,408,332.
Shatty is still due $13,300,000, while Smith is due $8,700,000 in salary total.

I agree with your thinking Jan & Jim to buyout only Smith, but was looking at the issue in the following means had this situation occurred or still will:

(1) Had the Rangers already been able to trade both, or if by prior to the start of this season by retaining the 50% money they were willing as rumored, they would have picked up in total, $6,650,000 on Shatty and $4,350,000 on Smith, (i.e, one year's worth of their two year's remaining money due them).

(2) The difference via a buyout vs. a trade under a 50% retained basis is:
(A) Shatty's buyout costing an additional $3,783,332 in total, vs. a trade with retaining 50%.
(B) Smith's buyout costing an additional $2,058,332 in total, vs. a trade with retaining 50%.

That totals $5,841,664 in additional dead cap space (an annual average of $1,460,416) over the next 4 years, should both Shatty and Smith be bought out, as opposed to both having already been traded, (or if traded by prior to the start of the season), with also retaining 50% of their remaining contracts.
In addition, the combined $8.175M of Namestnikov, Vesey, & Beleskey will likely be gone after 2019/20, along with Staal's $5.7M and Hank's $8.5M expiring after 2020/21.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 26 @ 8:44 PM ET
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- mdw7413



mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:44 PM ET

- JRR1285

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:45 PM ET
Why can’t we just keep our great prospects?
- Bean_Dip

I've watched him play twice last season (with a scout). He gave him a 20% chance of getting more than 9 games with the big club...
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 26 @ 8:47 PM ET

- mdw7413



I've been too busy to post but I'm reading most of it, regrettably.

I feel like we are Quickscf or the Robot guy away from going beyond full retard.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 26 @ 8:48 PM ET
I've watched him play twice last season (with a scout). He gave him a 20% chance of getting more than 9 games with the big club...
- 21peter



Was the "scout" Eklund?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:48 PM ET
I've been too busy to post but I'm reading most of it, regrettably.

I feel like we are Quickscf or the Robot guy away from going beyond full retard.

- JRR1285


Its like the bar scene in starwars
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 26 @ 8:50 PM ET
Its like the bar scene in starwars
- mdw7413





I hope Han shoots first in this version.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:50 PM ET
Was the "scout" Eklund?
- JRR1285

I'm not sure that Dwayne has ever been to Sweden. Anything else while you're at it?
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