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gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Jun 23 @ 4:12 PM ET
See where Matz Zucharello wants to explore talks with other teams. Always have admired his tenacity and compete level thru the years. A little guy, but he's nobodies floater.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 4:16 PM ET
Lucic has never been one of my favorites. And they got revenge on Cooke they didnt let it slide like a lot of players and teams in todays game would.
- vandymeer23

phantasmo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.13.2016

Jun 23 @ 4:28 PM ET
It will be more like $8 million x 8 years.

$6 million will be for Strome, I’d guess for 5-6 years.

- DarthKane


Are the Hawks really prepared to commit $6mm/yr to Strome? he had 3/4 of a productive season. He doesn't move his feet very well and doesn't do much in the defensive zone. Seems like a lot for a guy whose point production mirrors Saad's (without Saad's D and PK time).....
Boisy12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 05.01.2009

Jun 23 @ 4:29 PM ET
Tyler Cameron: Blackhawks Draft Recap + Other Stuff

It was a more eventful day in the NHL on day 2 of the NHL draft.

P.K. Subban was moved to New Jersey, J.T. Miller is now a Canuck and the Leafs paid the price to shed Patrick Marleau.

Here's a look at the Hawks picks, as well as some rumors.

- Tyler Cameron


Just a question for the group after hearing the rumored wild bill numbers in Vegas.
Do these teams with no state income tax have a huge advantage? Should there be a weighted salary cap?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 4:46 PM ET
I think the hawks are going to decide between one forward ...

not sure if it is a cap squeezed teams player (maybe Vegas defensive forward Karlsson at .575 mil a year ...the hawks could go to arbitration and IT might be a one year marriage, or someone else) or go long ball with C-LW Christian Dvorek who is locked until 4,450,00 until 2025 and THAT might have Coyotes, after his 33, 37, and 2 goal seasons and a combined -12....I am not so sure they Arizona is ready to part ways, but maybe Dvorek is.

Anyway...either move or any move, might be part of a Anismov, Forsling, Koekoek,Dahlström, and or Murphy departure and/OR Rockford sweeteners added.

I think Corey Perry is sort of an after the dust has settled move IF he doesn't sign with Nashville as some are reporting.
I hate Perry as an opponent, "heard" he was an sob teammate in practice too, but one thing I would not be surprised at is Perry OR Dach lining up with Toews and Kane next year.

- wiz1901


Perry is an SOB inside and out.
pdx2ord
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jun 23 @ 4:56 PM ET
I would have to spend more time to understand what all these stats are and how model is constructed to play with the rankings, but thought the initial result a friend sent me was interesting.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/chris.watkins8431#!/vizhome/BabyGMBOTPlayerValueModel/Dashboard1

Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 23 @ 4:59 PM ET
The Athletic’s Pronman on Dach:

Chicago Blackhawks: Kirby Dach, C, Saskatoon-WHL
Jan. 21, 2001 | 6-foot-4 | 198 pounds

When you think of what teams are looking for in a No. 1 center, it looks a lot like Dach. He’s a right-shot centerman who measures in around 6-foot-4, with a lot of skill and offensive IQ, and plays heavy minutes. He makes high-end plays to his teammates and through defenders with consistency. His vision particularly stands out. He has great patience, finds guys in traffic and makes tough passes when you least expect it. He’s a prototypical power play QB and plays a 5-foot-10 skill game in a big man’s body. Dach showed that he can play all situations. He’s not the most physical big man, but he’s reliable defensively and often played more than 20 minutes a night for Saskatoon in tough matchups. At the Hlinka Gretzky Cup, he showed he could be a net-front guy on the power play. Dach has good speed. His feet don’t match his skill and his first step could be a bit better, but overall he’s the total package and a player who projects to be a front-line center in the NHL. His consistency is the only issue I have. With his toolkit, he should have dominated the WHL, but he only did that in stretches with a midseason lull, though he ended his season strong.

Saskatoon Blades coach Mitch Love on Dach: “He’s a student of the game. He’s got a very high hockey IQ. His playmaking ability is second to none. There aren’t many 6-foot-4, 200-pound, 17-year-old players who can play center the way he can.”

Team Fit: Dach on a pure tools level is above, if not clearly above, both Alex Turcotte and Bowen Byram. I would have had some hesitation doing that pick at No. 3 given his production last season and alternative options, but if Chicago believes he will become the sum of his parts, he is absolutely worthy of this pick. This isn’t the first time an incredibly talented forward has gone high without great production. It reminds me of the Ryan Johansen and Mark Scheifele picks, which both worked out, although their circumstances were a bit different, with Johansen going through a growth spurt and Scheifele being a first-year player in the OHL. Dach becomes the best forward prospect in the Chicago system by a wide, wide margin and the best prospect overall in the system. If the team did its homework and wasn’t scared off by his midseason slump, 6-foot-4 centers with his skill, vision and skating are rare to find, and he has the potential to become a star in the NHL
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 23 @ 5:00 PM ET
Just a question for the group after hearing the rumored wild bill numbers in Vegas.
Do these teams with no state income tax have a huge advantage? Should there be a weighted salary cap?

- Boisy12


Figure half a Vegas player's annual salary (for their home games) is taxed at Nevadas 0% rate. For a Hawk player, half his salary is taxed at the Illinois rate. 5%? Or whatever.

Saad makes 6M. His Illinois tax liability is 3M x .05 = 150,000. Karlsson now makes 6M. His Nevada tax is 3M x 0% = 0.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 23 @ 5:09 PM ET
Lucic has never been one of my favorites. And they got revenge on Cooke they didnt let it slide like a lot of players and teams in todays game would.
- vandymeer23


Well, at least you admit that the goon prevents nothing. I'd submit that the idea that any team would choose not to hammer Hughes whenever possible simply because his team has a goon is laughable . [/img]
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 5:17 PM ET
Dach-Toews-Kane
Debrincat-Strome-Kubalik
Saad-Anisimov-Perlini
Sikura-Kampf-Caggiulla


Maata-Jokiharju
Keith-Murphy
Gustafson-Seabrook

Crawford
Lankinen


Battling for a Wild Card with that Roster IMO
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
Dach-Toews-Kane
Debrincat-Strome-Kubalik
Saad-Anisimov-Perlini
Sikura-Kampf-Caggiulla


Maata-Jokiharju
Keith-Murphy
Gustafson-Seabrook

Crawford
Lankinen


Battling for a Wild Card with that Roster IMO

- EnzoD


Go out and make a free agent splash. Beef up the forward group and get about stable blue liner. Strome should take a bridge deal. I think it's nuts if the Hawks give him 5-6M for 3/4 of a season of production. Let's see if he can follow it up this year.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
Dach-Toews-Kane
Debrincat-Strome-Kubalik
Saad-Anisimov-Perlini
Sikura-Kampf-Caggiulla


Maata-Jokiharju
Keith-Murphy
Gustafson-Seabrook

Crawford
Lankinen


Battling for a Wild Card with that Roster IMO

- EnzoD


Yep, and that’s if we catch some breaks and players continue to progress. Those defensive pairings are... not good.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 5:38 PM ET
Yep, and that’s if we catch some breaks and players continue to progress. Those defensive pairings are... not good.
- Chief4Feathers

Non playoff team maybe 2nd wildcard at best
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 23 @ 5:50 PM ET
Heard an interview with Dach on NHL radio, he said he is working out this summer to get bigger and stronger. I wonder what Goodman projects for him?
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Jun 23 @ 5:52 PM ET
I’ll go out on a limb and say the Blackhawks make no trades with any of the so-called cap hell teams.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 23 @ 5:55 PM ET
Dach-Toews-Kane
Debrincat-Strome-Kubalik
Saad-Anisimov-Perlini
Sikura-Kampf-Caggiulla


Maata-Jokiharju
Keith-Murphy
Gustafson-Seabrook

Crawford
Lankinen


Battling for a Wild Card with that Roster IMO

- EnzoD


Maybe that's why they try to get Patches...
Max-Toews-Kane
ADB-Strome-Perlini
Saad-Dach-Kubilak
Caggula-Kampf-Sikura

Look to move AA for picks to shed salary.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:59 PM ET
here is one former hawk I would like to have back for another go around...doubt it happens...ole shinpads

be a straight up hockey trade....the habs are not in cap trouble

3 years at 4 mil...nice fit


bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:01 PM ET
I’ll go out on a limb and say the Blackhawks make no trades with any of the so-called cap hell teams.
- gifman


they are trying I am sure...but so are others

and increase demand makes a trade fit harder...but i do think the hawks have the pieces and picks to offer
LaheysBRandy
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.28.2015

Jun 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
I’ll go out on a limb and say the Blackhawks make no trades with any of the so-called cap hell teams.
- gifman


I feel like they already did with the Penguins and Maata.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 23 @ 6:19 PM ET
I feel like they already did with the Penguins and Maata.
- LaheysBRandy


Well, looking at it cup half full... at least they didn't take Jack Johnson back from the Pens.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 6:21 PM ET
they are trying I am sure...but so are others

and increase demand makes a trade fit harder...but i do think the hawks have the pieces and picks to offer

- bogiedoc

Think carolina be a better fit fo AA plus shaw would nice but has been injured a lot since leaving the hawks. Looking to add some grit and toughness reeves simmonds or perry likely on 1 year deals not sure bowman goes that route. Nothing gets probably until rfa's are qualified.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 23 @ 6:24 PM ET
Hawks gave up an even better resource to "get rid" of two years of Bickell.
- kwolf68


Hawks doctors suck! Two years of "I'm dizzy I don't know where I'm at" and they couldn't figure out he had MS until after he's traded? Bet McD went apepoop on that! They would have LTIR'd him and saved Tevo.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:26 PM ET
I’ll go out on a limb and say the Blackhawks make no trades with any of the so-called cap hell teams.
- gifman

I’ll go out on a limb and say Vlasic has a better career than Byram.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 23 @ 6:27 PM ET
See where Matz Zucharello wants to explore talks with other teams. Always have admired his tenacity and compete level thru the years. A little guy, but he's nobodies floater.
- gabriel


Yes, and he played well for Dallas during the playoffs. If the term/$ was good, could be a good fit for the Hawks.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 23 @ 6:27 PM ET
Based on what I've heard, I think it's because of the logjam on D, coupled with the fact that the UFA class is weak.
- Tyler Cameron


Probably not getting offered enough for Gus and nothing for Forsling. If so might as well wait for free agency to see what that will cost?
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