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Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 24 @ 2:53 PM ET
I am thinking about trades:

To MINN: Bryan Little

To WPG: Mikko Koivu

or

To NSH: Adam Lowry

To WPG: Mikael Granlund

or

To EDM: Jack Roslovic

To WPG: Jessie Pulijarvi

Just some random thoughts....

- TheUltimateJet


Yes
No
Yes
CorydonKeith
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.22.2014

Jun 24 @ 4:35 PM ET
The draft - what can ya say ? ... picking 20th we ain't landing a 'highly touted' prospect .... only time will tell

What's prob% on Myers staying ... I'm guessing 30% right now

Stop trading Lowry !! ... he's a keeper

And stop whining about playing time for Niku ... he's gonna get it this year
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
The draft - what can ya say ? ... picking 20th we ain't landing a 'highly touted' prospect .... only time will tell

What's prob% on Myers staying ... I'm guessing 30% right now

Stop trading Lowry !! ... he's a keeper

And stop whining about playing time for Niku ... he's gonna get it this year

- CorydonKeith


Twitter today was all about reports Myers may get 8mil per year, GM’s saying he will demand more than 6 easy. This is laughable and I pity the franchise that does this.
He is a 4mil per year D, tops.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
The draft - what can ya say ? ... picking 20th we ain't landing a 'highly touted' prospect .... only time will tell

What's prob% on Myers staying ... I'm guessing 30% right now

Stop trading Lowry !! ... he's a keeper

And stop whining about playing time for Niku ... he's gonna get it this year

- CorydonKeith


I’ve seen nothing but universal acclaim for our newest member of the Finnipeg Jets. Heinola looks legit, and compares very well to Heiskanen. He’ll be here sooner than most people think, and may be a top-10 worthy pick
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 24 @ 6:41 PM ET
The draft - what can ya say ? ... picking 20th we ain't landing a 'highly touted' prospect .... only time will tell

What's prob% on Myers staying ... I'm guessing 30% right now

Stop trading Lowry !! ... he's a keeper

And stop whining about playing time for Niku ... he's gonna get it this year

- CorydonKeith

Lowry is overrated and has value at this moment. Copp is a far better option and has shown he can elevate his line mates.

I am really hoping Myers signs here long term and if not, good for him for getting 8mill a year. I wish I had an agent who could negotiate those types of deals for me!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 24 @ 6:45 PM ET
I’ve seen nothing but universal acclaim for our newest member of the Finnipeg Jets. Heinola looks legit, and compares very well to Heiskanen. He’ll be here sooner than most people think, and may be a top-10 worthy pick
- Rexypoo

I agree Rexypoo we need more Finns. Got three more trades to jack up our Finnish content:

To FLA: Mark Scheifele

To WPG: Sasha Barkov

And then,

To CAR: Blake Wheeler, Kyle Connor, 2020 second round pick

To WPG: Sabastian Aho, Teuvo Teravanian

And then,

To COL: Nikolai Ehlers, 2020 first round pick, Andrew Copp

To WPG: Mikko Rantanen
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:49 PM ET
Twitter today was all about reports Myers may get 8mil per year, GM’s saying he will demand more than 6 easy. This is laughable and I pity the franchise that does this.
He is a 4mil per year D, tops.

- Ross77


I'll split the difference on these quotes. Myers is definitely not worth 8 MM , especially with the cap still at $81.5. However $4 MM is a lowball number. As a Dman who can play PP, PK, and log 22-24 minutes a game as a top-four guy makes him definitely worth more than that. $6-$6.5 for 5 years seems to be a reasonable number in my eyes.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 25 @ 12:12 AM ET
I agree Rexypoo we need more Finns. Got three more trades to jack up our Finnish content:

To FLA: Mark Scheifele

To WPG: Sasha Barkov

And then,

To CAR: Blake Wheeler, Kyle Connor, 2020 second round pick

To WPG: Sabastian Aho, Teuvo Teravanian

And then,

To COL: Nikolai Ehlers, 2020 first round pick, Andrew Copp

To WPG: Mikko Rantanen

- TheUltimateJet


I love the first two, but Ehlers is better than Rantanen
DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:16 AM ET
myers reportedly heading back to wpg 6yrs 7.25aav from a solid source
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 25 @ 6:56 AM ET
I'll split the difference on these quotes. Myers is definitely not worth 8 MM , especially with the cap still at $81.5. However $4 MM is a lowball number. As a Dman who can play PP, PK, and log 22-24 minutes a game as a top-four guy makes him definitely worth more than that. $6-$6.5 for 5 years seems to be a reasonable number in my eyes.
- jetsnation


I'd be happy with 4 years at $6-6.5 for 4 years. Our d is going to be pretty weak without him. Not much else out there - unless major trade.
Like any d-man, Tyler may make the odd miscue (lots of quality d-men do), but he brings it every night and seems like a quality guy. We really need him.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 25 @ 9:09 AM ET
myers reportedly heading back to wpg 6yrs 7.25aav from a solid source
- DrunkenCanuck


If that is the case, there is only 23.8 mill of cap space. So, that takes it down to 16.6, and we still have Laine, Connor, Pionck, Copp, Comrie, Morrow, Beaulieau as RFA's and Tanev, Chairot as UFA's.

Who is leaving town? Who gets qualified as RFA? Laine, Connor, Copp, and Comrie is a no brainer. Comrie will get packaged up and shipped out perhaps with someone else? Do Morrow and Beaulieau receive a quailfying offer? I don't think so. I think they will expire and then try to sign if possible for cheap, if signed at all.

Chairot, Tanev would seemingly walk if they get a good offer somewhere else unless Kuli can be packaged up somehow.

Jets cap is going to get real tight in a hurry unless Laine and or Conner take a bridge deal and Kuli gets dumped somewhere.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
I'll split the difference on these quotes. Myers is definitely not worth 8 MM , especially with the cap still at $81.5. However $4 MM is a lowball number. As a Dman who can play PP, PK, and log 22-24 minutes a game as a top-four guy makes him definitely worth more than that. $6-$6.5 for 5 years seems to be a reasonable number in my eyes.
- jetsnation

This where we disagree, I don’t see a top 4 D. One of the Twitter anylitics folks posted the other day, out of the the players to play D for the jets over the last three years Myers led them all in allowing the most scoring chances against us per minutes played
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
myers reportedly heading back to wpg 6yrs 7.25aav from a solid source
- DrunkenCanuck

Really, I have a reliable source saying the Canucks at 7x7 so have fun with that.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 25 @ 9:23 AM ET
Lowry is overrated and has value at this moment. Copp is a far better option and has shown he can elevate his line mates.

I am really hoping Myers signs here long term and if not, good for him for getting 8mill a year. I wish I had an agent who could negotiate those types of deals for me!

- TheUltimateJet


Adam Lowry is our second best play driving forward. He literally elevates teammates more than anyone but 2018 half Mark Scheifele
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
If that is the case, there is only 23.8 mill of cap space. So, that takes it down to 16.6, and we still have Laine, Connor, Pionck, Copp, Comrie, Morrow, Beaulieau as RFA's and Tanev, Chairot as UFA's.

Who is leaving town? Who gets qualified as RFA? Laine, Connor, Copp, and Comrie is a no brainer. Comrie will get packaged up and shipped out perhaps with someone else? Do Morrow and Beaulieau receive a quailfying offer? I don't think so. I think they will expire and then try to sign if possible for cheap, if signed at all.

Chairot, Tanev would seemingly walk if they get a good offer somewhere else unless Kuli can be packaged up somehow.

Jets cap is going to get real tight in a hurry unless Laine and or Conner take a bridge deal and Kuli gets dumped somewhere.

- CharlieDog


Guess my hope is that they can trade Kulikov, Perreault, Beaulieu, Comrie and probably a mid-tier prospect in some kind of package deals. This would give them roughly $25 mill. left after potentially re-signing Myers.

Hopefully Connor, Laine, Chiarot, Tanev, Copp and Pionk (1 yr. - 1.7-2 mill) can be res-signed for #22 mill. Still makes it tough for the following season. Can we find a taker for Little next summer?

May have to deal another player, or not re-sign one of ones mentioned, to stay under cap, thinking ahead to 2020/21.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
If that is the case, there is only 23.8 mill of cap space. So, that takes it down to 16.6, and we still have Laine, Connor, Pionck, Copp, Comrie, Morrow, Beaulieau as RFA's and Tanev, Chairot as UFA's.

Who is leaving town? Who gets qualified as RFA? Laine, Connor, Copp, and Comrie is a no brainer. Comrie will get packaged up and shipped out perhaps with someone else? Do Morrow and Beaulieau receive a quailfying offer? I don't think so. I think they will expire and then try to sign if possible for cheap, if signed at all.

Chairot, Tanev would seemingly walk if they get a good offer somewhere else unless Kuli can be packaged up somehow.

Jets cap is going to get real tight in a hurry unless Laine and or Conner take a bridge deal and Kuli gets dumped somewhere.

- CharlieDog


this makes the cap savings from the Trouba dump look much more valuable.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
I guess I’m in the minority but I dont want any of Chairot, Myers or Tanev back. I’m excited to watch Poolman, Niku, Vesalainen and Appleton all play more. I think if need be when the dust settles you can find cheap D that will perform exactly the same
As Chairot or Myers for pennies on the dollar.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
We were not a good team the entire 2nd half of the season last year, wanting to bring back that exact team and coaching staff makes no sense to me.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
Guess my hope is that they can trade Kulikov, Perreault, Beaulieu, Comrie and probably a mid-tier prospect in some kind of package deals. This would give them roughly $25 mill. left after potentially re-signing Myers.

Hopefully Connor, Laine, Chiarot, Tanev, Copp and Pionk (1 yr. - 1.7-2 mill) can be res-signed for #22 mill. Still makes it tough for the following season. Can we find a taker for Little next summer?

May have to deal another player, or not re-sign one of ones mentioned, to stay under cap, thinking ahead to 2020/21.

- grahamzky


-Don’t trade Perreault. You can’t replace him at 4.
-Keep Beaulieu, he’s better than Myers, Chairot, Morrow, and Pionk.
-Myers, Tanev, Chiarot, and Morrow are all replaceable by any 10 randos in free agency.
-Little will be totally untradeable by the time the team admits his contract is a problem, so he will be sacrificed to Seattle for an insane price.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
-Don’t trade Perreault. You can’t replace him at 4.
-Keep Beaulieu, he’s better than Myers, Chairot, Morrow, and Pionk.
-Myers, Tanev, Chiarot, and Morrow are all replaceable by any 10 randos in free agency.
-Little will be totally untradeable by the time the team admits his contract is a problem, so he will be sacrificed to Seattle for an insane price.

- Rexypoo


-if any team in nhl offered us anything of value with a lesser cap hit or even a 3rd or 4th rounder for Perreault, he would have been traded by now! I like Perreault but reality is, no team in the nhl wants him at his current salary or he’d be gone. Teams probably said they would take him if we added prospect or pick.

-Beaulieu like the others mentioned is not worth his salary (2.4). We can find replacement level guys for cheaper when the dust settles

-with the rapid rise in nhl salaries, little contract is actually fine and in two years players performing equally to little wil be paid 7 plus per. I’m two years, wheelers deal will look worse than littles
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 25 @ 12:19 PM ET
-if any team in nhl offered us anything of value with a lesser cap hit or even a 3rd or 4th rounder for Perreault, he would have been traded by now! I like Perreault but reality is, no team in the nhl wants him at his current salary or he’d be gone. Teams probably said they would take him if we added prospect or pick.

-Beaulieu like the others mentioned is not worth his salary (2.4). We can find replacement level guys for cheaper when the dust settles

-with the rapid rise in nhl salaries, little contract is actually fine and in two years players performing equally to little wil be paid 7 plus per. I’m two years, wheelers deal will look worse than littles

- Ross77


A: don’t care. His value on the ice has always been worth more than his trade value. If you’re somehow right, and he is immovable? Pfft. Good!
B: you avoid this, and don’t pay him what he was making last time
C: Little will be a 5.1mil 4th liner in 2 seasons time
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jun 25 @ 12:34 PM ET
-Don’t trade Perreault. You can’t replace him at 4.
-Keep Beaulieu, he’s better than Myers, Chairot, Morrow, and Pionk.
-Myers, Tanev, Chiarot, and Morrow are all replaceable by any 10 randos in free agency.
-Little will be totally untradeable by the time the team admits his contract is a problem, so he will be sacrificed to Seattle for an insane price.

- Rexypoo[/quote)

Perreault is the one player on the Jets that I think is sure to go. Decent player but too many $$$. Can be replaced by cheaper player - and may have trade value
- IMO Beaulieu is not even remotely close to Myers, certainly better than Morrow, the rest??
- Myers, Tanev and Chiarot have all been valuable members of the Jets. They will not be easily replaced. Not many UFA d men out there. Tanev hardest working Jet. Great penalty killer, more dangerous than many on team 5-on-5. Want to lose that?
- Agree that we may have a problem trading Little, but think Seattle will take him, unless they need to reach the cap floor? Little plus a 3rd to take him?
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Jun 25 @ 2:06 PM ET
Agree with Rexypoo on Little. In two years he will be the 34 year old version of Matt Hendricks.
If the Jets had any guts they would try to trade him and if there is no takers or he doesn't agree to be moved they buy him out. According to capfriendly doing that the cap hit for him this year would be 475 k, the Jets would save 4.8 million in cap space and give someone else a shot a 2c, it would be the best 17 million they ever spent.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
A: don’t care. His value on the ice has always been worth more than his trade value. If you’re somehow right, and he is immovable? Pfft. Good!
B: you avoid this, and don’t pay him what he was making last time
C: Little will be a 5.1mil 4th liner in 2 seasons time

- Rexypoo

Answer to C, and yes in two years time that’s what 4th liners will be paid. They are getting over 3 now as UFA’s. So I guess we are good then, glad we agree.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 2:30 PM ET
Let’s help Vegas and Ottawa with their opposite ends of the spectrum cap problems and offer;

Roslovic and a third to Vegas for Marschessault and Miller

Then,

Connor and Kulikov to Ottawa for
Branstrom, And one of Formenton, Norris, Brown or Batherson

Our cap, D, and prospects pool all balance out, you are welcome Chevy!
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