No 5th rounder so we can all get back to complaining about the first 4 rounds.
- MBFlyerfan

I am glad they acquired more defense prospects. No clue the quality, but I did have some concern about raw numbers available for development

it’s fine to have different opinions on prospects because obviously no one really knows outside of 1-2 elite guys how they will turn out

I thought it was pretty funny you think a poster on a hockey board was an enabler of how a team drafts

Enabler: a person or thing that makes something possible

my life is pretty good except when I spend too much time around here, but around the draft is a pretty fun time for a hockey fan, thanks I appreciate your concern for me
- Marc D

The organization will keep getting away with this mediocrity as long as the fans keep supporting it. Yes, it's a fun time being a hockey fan during draft week and free agency. And you're welcome 😉

The organization will keep getting away with this mediocrity as long as the fans keep supporting it. Yes, it's a fun time being a hockey fan during draft week and free agency. And you're welcome 😉
- dubc55

explain the mediocrity thing and who we would have gotten that was better than brink at that spot.

The organization will keep getting away with this mediocrity as long as the fans keep supporting it. Yes, it's a fun time being a hockey fan during draft week and free agency. And you're welcome 😉
- dubc55

You should submit your resume to the team. You obviously know more about this stuff than they do. Scout Slaughter reporting for duty!

Great. Awesome.

So of your viewings, what did you think of Brink? Attard? Millman? York?

What was your assessment?

Or did you not see them?
- AllInForFlyers

York wasn't my choice. I really didn't think they were going D with the pick. But he was a late riser and with fair reason. He seems to have a very high hockey IQ and plays solid defense for being a more offensively minded guy. He's 5'11" which was my biggest knock on him. He's going to have to rely on that IQ with being a little undersized.

Brink it's really all about the skating. If he can straighten that out then I think he stands a decent chance of developing into a useful guy. The league allows for these small guys now. If he can improve the skating he should be fine. If not he's going to have a hard time making lanes for himself. I think there were more well rounded prospects available. I don't want to say it's a swing for the fences move but they're definitely taking a risk here over taking someone like Hoglander who probably has a lower ceiling but physically is the total package.

Attard I've not seen from what I recall but the size/stats combo is pretty intriguing and he seems to fill a need for us with being a big body on the back end.

Millman I know nothing about other than he's supposedly got "off the charts" hockey IQ. I find it interesting that Fletch loaded up this much on defense considering how young our defensive core already is. There cloud be a massive logjam in a few years time if even half these guys progress as planned.

Not mad about anything. I find it hilarious these guys that flip out of ANY criticism of a draft pick after they put a Flyers Jersey on. The draft coverage literally said the kid is a terrible skater right now. It's obviously something that we can be concerned about but these bums take it as ripping any and every pick.

Also don't be a Richard and assume people here don't watch prospects just because you don't.
- hereticpride

Well said 👍

York wasn't my choice. I really didn't think they were going D with the pick. But he was a late riser and with fair reason. He seems to have a very high hockey IQ and plays solid defense for being a more offensively minded guy. He's 5'11" which was my biggest knock on him. He's going to have to rely on that IQ with being a little undersized.

Brink it's really all about the skating. If he can straighten that out then I think he stands a decent chance of developing into a useful guy. The league allows for these small guys now. If he can improve the skating he should be fine. If not he's going to have a hard time making lanes for himself. I think there were more well rounded prospects available. I don't want to say it's a swing for the fences move but they're definitely taking a risk here over taking someone like Hoglander who probably has a lower ceiling but physically is the total package.

Attard I've not seen from what I recall but the size/stats combo is pretty intriguing and he seems to fill a need for us with being a big body on the back end.

Millman I know nothing about other than he's supposedly got "off the charts" hockey IQ. I find it interesting that Fletch loaded up this much on defense considering how young our defensive core already is. There cloud be a massive logjam in a few years time if even half these guys progress as planned.
- hereticpride

Hodge podge of players. What do the flyers want their identity to be? What underlying characteristic do all these players Possess?

York wasn't my choice. I really didn't think they were going D with the pick. But he was a late riser and with fair reason. He seems to have a very high hockey IQ and plays solid defense for being a more offensively minded guy. He's 5'11" which was my biggest knock on him. He's going to have to rely on that IQ with being a little undersized.

Brink it's really all about the skating. If he can straighten that out then I think he stands a decent chance of developing into a useful guy. The league allows for these small guys now. If he can improve the skating he should be fine. If not he's going to have a hard time making lanes for himself. I think there were more well rounded prospects available. I don't want to say it's a swing for the fences move but they're definitely taking a risk here over taking someone like Hoglander who probably has a lower ceiling but physically is the total package.

Attard I've not seen from what I recall but the size/stats combo is pretty intriguing and he seems to fill a need for us with being a big body on the back end.

Millman I know nothing about other than he's supposedly got "off the charts" hockey IQ. I find it interesting that Fletch loaded up this much on defense considering how young our defensive core already is. There cloud be a massive logjam in a few years time if even half these guys progress as planned.
- hereticpride

See? At least this is better than “Flyers are idiots” and “Fletcher ruined everything”

I don’t think it’s all doom and gloom. Some picks will hit. Most will never see a shift

But if a person is going to complain, at least say who you saw and didn’t see

The organization will keep getting away with this mediocrity as long as the fans keep supporting it. Yes, it's a fun time being a hockey fan during draft week and free agency. And you're welcome 😉
- dubc55

I’ll continue watching as many flyers games as I can to do my part to ensure the cycle of mediocrity continues.

Hodge podge of players. What do the flyers want their identity to be? What underlying characteristic do all these players Possess?
- Just5

they are all hockey players

Here is the reality and I don't care if it ruffles some feathers. It's fine to watch some games, look at highlights and read scouting reports and form an opinion on a player. That's being a fan. Reality is that there isn't anyone who truly knows any of these players. NHL teams have to employ a staff of scouts to look at all these players over a period of time, sometimes years. It's a crap shoot for them. I always find it hysterical when a fan thinks he has real knowledge of any of these players. They don't. That's just the fact. I get a kick out of the one obvious draft expert we have on the thread who thinks that there are better players. He doesn't know. He just thinks he knows. These players differ in rankings among NHL teams. One teams board thinks player A is the better player and another team thinks the opposite. That is among the experts.
- MJL

Sometimes all that information also leads to scouts etc. overvaluing/underestimating certain players. You're right, it is a crapshoot for many reasons. Philly moved up in the draft to select a project player with with a lot of question marks. There were more safe picks with as much or more potential on the board that are further along in development than Brink. I have a reason to be skeptical of the pick. Thanks for the shout out.

See? At least this is better than “Flyers are idiots” and “Fletcher ruined everything”

I don’t think it’s all doom and gloom. Some picks will hit. Most will never see a shift

But if a person is going to complain, at least say who you saw and didn’t see
- AllInForFlyers

I can understanding wanting to see your team pick a more high profile game and stating so.
The problem is the Fletch sucks the sky is falling mantra.
How does taking a wait and see attitude towards these kids keep the flyers flowing in mediocrity?
That’s just over the top rhetoric.

I was nervous that Fletch would trade young prospects Ghost etc to get picks or a head scratcher middling NHL player.
Now that he didn’t it’s a waiting game on these guys.

I'm gonna flip if we trade Phil Myers. He is a 6'5" RHD and still developing. We need to hold onto him for another few seasons to see how he develops.

A lot of teams search every year for a big RHD. Why would we move one?

I’m being a Richard? GTFO.

What kids did you watch? Seriously. If you watched some, say who and how — was it in person? YouTube highlights? Prospect tournaments on television?

What kids did you see? What kids didn’t you see?
- AllInForFlyers

I think hereticpride is on to something here.

I'm gonna flip if we trade Phil Myers. He is a 6'5" RHD and still developing. We need to hold onto him for another few seasons to see how he develops.

A lot of teams search every year for a big RHD. Why would we move one?
- cdearth23

is this a thing? I haven't seen it mentioned yet.

You should submit your resume to the team. You obviously know more about this stuff than they do. Scout Slaughter reporting for duty!
- MBFlyerfan

You beat me to the punch.
I was going to say that he has clearly missed his calling. Apparently, not only has he seen every shift taken by the top 100 players for the last 2 years, he has Pym particles, the time stone or a flux capacitor and knows exactly how each player turns out in five years. What team wouldn't want that scout working for them? Drafting 18 year olds IS an exact science.

I am neither endorsing nor condemning any of the picks, as, frankly, nobody, including all 31 teams and the pundits know how things will turn out.

York and Brink aren't low-ceiling safe picks.

Pretty happy with Rounds #1 and #2.

York and Brink aren't low-ceiling safe picks.

Pretty happy with Rounds #1 and #2.
- Tomahawk

Call me crazy but I’d prefer to swing for the fences and that high upside.

Going after the floor players is crap.

Solid draft.

Sometimes all that information also leads to scouts etc. overvaluing/underestimating certain players. You're right, it is a crapshoot for many reasons. Philly moved up in the draft to select a project player with with a lot of question marks. There were more safe picks with as much or more potential on the board that are further along in development than Brink. I have a reason to be skeptical of the pick. Thanks for the shout out.
- dubc55

I'm sure you do have a reason to be skeptical of the pick. Things I read that you have posted give me a reason to be skeptical of your opinion. Such as how teams look at a draft and why they draft certain players when. The safe pick is not always the best pick. A team should have a blend of safe picks and picks looking to hit a home run. You're entitled to your opinion but lets not pretend that you have more information then they do or know players better than they do. You don't.

Sometimes all that information also leads to scouts etc. overvaluing/underestimating certain players. You're right, it is a crapshoot for many reasons. Philly moved up in the draft to select a project player with with a lot of question marks. There were more safe picks with as much or more potential on the board that are further along in development than Brink. I have a reason to be skeptical of the pick. Thanks for the shout out.
- dubc55

The (frank) are you talking about. Brink was a slam dunk at that pick.

I think hereticpride is on to something here.
- dubc55

LOL

I like you. Your opinion matters more to me than all the other opinions of random people on the internet COMBINED.

Seriously. COMBINED.

I didn’t even know you were relevant until, like, ever, so
congratulations! Your prize is to continue posting with the rest of us!

Roddy Ross

Ranked #17 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Goalies)

LOL

I like you. Your opinion matters more to me than all the other opinions of random people on the internet COMBINED.

Seriously. COMBINED.

I didn’t even know you were relevant until, like, ever, so
congratulations! Your prize is to continue posting with the rest of us!
- AllInForFlyers

What kind of prize is that?

Roddy Ross is a great hockey name.