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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:31 PM ET
What kind of prize is that?

- MJL


LOL

Isn’t it obvious?

The prize he deserves 😎😎
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
The organization will keep getting away with this mediocrity as long as the fans keep supporting it. Yes, it's a fun time being a hockey fan during draft week and free agency. And you're welcome 😉
- dubc55

that is an interesting response regarding the fans continuing to support their team regardless of mediocrity

being from Philly and a sports fan, you see a dichotomy. unwavering support for a team and players when they are fighting to win, making an honest effort, etc

but when the players are perceived as slacking or the management is making bad decisions, the Philly fan is pretty quick to tear them to shreds

I think we still support them by going to games and watching our teams. Maybe more then we should during times of mediocrity, but I think that’s what makes us good fans
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:34 PM ET
Yeger Serdyuk

Ranked #92 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #71 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)

Seems pretty high ranked for a late round pick. Good value there.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 22 @ 4:36 PM ET
Roddy Ross is a great hockey name.
- Tomahawk

Bobby Brink is a great name too
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:36 PM ET
Yeger Serdyuk

Ranked #92 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #71 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)

Seems pretty high ranked for a late round pick. Good value there.

- MBFlyerfan


Unpossible — Fletcher hates the Flyers
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 4:40 PM ET
Bobby Brink is a great name too
- Marc D


Bobby "the brain" Brink and Rowdy Roddy Ross.

I think I see the Flyers draft strategy. The Flyers assistant GM Rick Flahr is a wresting fan.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:42 PM ET
Bobby "the brain" Brink and Rowdy Roddy Ross.
- MJL


When Bobby Brink eventually becomes GM will he asked to be called " Bob" Brink?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:42 PM ET
Unpossible — Fletcher hates the Flyers
- AllInForFlyers



Litrilly everything the Flyers do is bad. because the Flyers are bad. because laughingstock. because 1975. bad.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 22 @ 4:43 PM ET
who was ranked 15-25 that was available still
- Richieattack18


It's located on page 8
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
I am pretty happy that Fletcher was aggressive enough to acquire and use draft capital as he saw fit.

That doesn’t mean I have any idea what these kids will or won’t do.

But he extracted serious value in moving down three spots, and used that value to take a shot on a first-round projection who slid.

That’s all you can ask, to me — he took a shot on skill, put more defense prospects in the system because you never have enough.

Now we wait
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
is this a thing? I haven't seen it mentioned yet.
- MBFlyerfan


Not sure. I've seen his name a couple of times on this site. Not a fan of that.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 4:47 PM ET
I am pretty happy that Fletcher was aggressive enough to acquire and use draft capital as he saw fit.

That doesn’t mean I have any idea what these kids will or won’t do.

But he extracted serious value in moving down three spots, and used that value to take a shot on a first-round projection who slid.

That’s all you can ask, to me — he took a shot on skill, put more defense prospects in the system because you never have enough.

Now we wait

- AllInForFlyers


If the flyers would’ve sacrificed a second to move three spots not even in the top ten, people would have screamed. By default, that has to make it a pretty savvy move the other way no?


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 22 @ 4:48 PM ET
Bobby "the brain" Brink and Rowdy Roddy Ross.

I think I see the Flyers draft strategy. The Flyers assistant GM Rick Flahr is a wresting fan.

- MJL

😆
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
Litrilly everything the Flyers do is bad. because the Flyers are bad. because laughingstock. because 1975. bad.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Braun trade could’ve been better, IMO, because SJ was capped out.

Fine with Niskanen.

Hayes was costly. I think it was worth the risk. Others disagree.

Think they did what you hope for on draft weekend.

I think Vigneault is one of the top 10 coaches currently active.

Ambivalent about Therrien and Yeo, but maybe they can help address inconsistencies faster than less experienced coaches.

Glad Gordon went back to LHV.

All in all, I like where they are. No clue where it all goes, but they are better than they were two months ago
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
If the flyers would’ve sacrificed a second to move three spots not even in the top ten, people would have screamed. By default, that has to make it a pretty savvy move the other way no?
- stayinthefnnet


They did the right thing there. They made an educated guess that York would still be there at #14. The 'Yotes were obviously worried the Flyers would take Soderstrom.

Parlaying #45 into Bobby Brink just made that trade even better.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
If the flyers would’ve sacrificed a second to move three spots not even in the top ten, people would have screamed. By default, that has to make it a pretty savvy move the other way no?
- stayinthefnnet


You’d think — that was a nice freaking move, but you know how we do it in this fanbase
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
I'm sure you do have a reason to be skeptical of the pick. Things I read that you have posted give me a reason to be skeptical of your opinion. Such as how teams look at a draft and why they draft certain players when. The safe pick is not always the best pick. A team should have a blend of safe picks and picks looking to hit a home run. You're entitled to your opinion but lets not pretend that you have more information then they do or know players better than they do. You don't.
- MJL


You do that every day on this site lol. No self awareness.
"I said the players were more safe with as much or more potential than brink" Not just that they were safe picks.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
Litrilly everything the Flyers do is bad. because the Flyers are bad. because laughingstock. because 1975. bad.
- Doc_Sarcasm



I'm a card carrying member of Team Negative and I approve this message.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
You’d think — that was a nice freaking move, but you know how we do it in this fanbase
- AllInForFlyers

Meanwhile the pens make a pick in the fort round for the first time this century and I wish they wouldn’t have
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Bobby "the brain" Brink and Rowdy Roddy Ross.

I think I see the Flyers draft strategy. The Flyers assistant GM Rick Flahr is a wresting fan.

- MJL



Just for the hell of it, I went a-googling for Roddy Ross and I came across this from the HF Boards.

"This kid is one of the best WHL goaltenders I've seen in a long time. I've watched him live quite a few times now. One of the most composed and technically talented goaltenders I've seen at this level. Single-handedly rejuvenated the Thunderbirds and has been electric since being called up to the team. I had the pleasure of watching him stone the Silvertips the other night with a 45 save gem. This kid is something special and has NHL size. Goaltenders are so hard to project, especially in the WHL. But he's the best I've seen in a long time.

Could see him being a late round flyer this year if scouts are really paying attention. But his arrival and carrying of the team is one of the more impressive things in my near 20 years of following the Thunderbirds. Not sure of his future but I haven't been this impressed with a WHL goaltender in my memory."


a late round flyer.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
that is an interesting response regarding the fans continuing to support their team regardless of mediocrity

being from Philly and a sports fan, you see a dichotomy. unwavering support for a team and players when they are fighting to win, making an honest effort, etc

but when the players are perceived as slacking or the management is making bad decisions, the Philly fan is pretty quick to tear them to shreds

I think we still support them by going to games and watching our teams. Maybe more then we should during times of mediocrity, but I think that’s what makes us good fans

- Marc D


So you're saying there is mediocrity and you support it? Why didn't you just say that the first time?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 5:02 PM ET
You do that every day on this site lol. No self awareness.
"I said the players were more safe with as much or more potential than brink" Not just that they were safe picks.

- dubc55


What you said is that there were a host of players still left better than Brink. Next we can get into discussing the comment you made of "he has so many obstacles to overcome that it's unlikely he amounts to anything" and how that relates to players selected in the 2nd round.


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 22 @ 5:02 PM ET
Meanwhile the pens make a pick in the fort round for the first time this century and I wish they wouldn’t have
- stayinthefnnet


LOL

Didn’t they take a center? Don’t you guys need them?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 5:08 PM ET
LOL

Didn’t they take a center? Don’t you guys need them?

- AllInForFlyers

Pens need everything from a cupboard perspective. Problem is, you put so much into the win now window for so long that it almost makes no sense to not do so now. Would’ve rather traded it to be honest.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 5:12 PM ET
Pens need everything from a cupboard perspective. Problem is, you put so much into the win now window for so long that it almost makes no sense to not do so now. Would’ve rather traded it to be honest.
- stayinthefnnet

That's basically what happened to the Blackhawks too. I'm still amazed with the guys they had they still ended up with such a high pick tho.

Pens could be scary bad in a few years unless they do the unthinkable and trade one of Malkin or Crosby.
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