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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:38 PM ET
as it is now next season is a write off. so they will have what, 4 years with matthews on board? tiny little window for a cup win. dunno, im not that optimistic right now lol. the league shifting towards rfa's getting huge deals could not have come at a pooptier time for the leafs. pretty much (frank)ed over their shot at winning anything.
- daeth


Blowing a first for Marleau's 1 yr was all about next year. Dubas doesn't think it's a write off
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
Harsh b'y
- gergeswillems



It had to be said..
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Jun 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
You understand how LTIR works, right?

Plus they can be 10% over the cap through the summer...

- lumlums


It seems that you don't (Most leaf fans don't know how LTIR works on here).

You can exceed 10% over the cap through the summer, but you must be under or at cap by the 1st day of the season. This is why the Blackhawks had to dump the Hossa contract a few years ago.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
You understand how LTIR works, right?

Plus they can be 10% over the cap through the summer...

- lumlums

Don't forget Dermott and Hyman....Another 3 million.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
I completely disagree, there is zero reasons for me to believe next season is a write off.

Every good team has good RFA's...

This is a classic Leaf fan post The Leafs cleared some much needed salary to help them win. That is all.

- Santo_44


No, that is not all.

You do know that giving up a first is a downside right?

You aren't smarter than everyone here, or anyone, for that matter, so stop with the attitude.
Larry_Fine
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton , AB
Joined: 02.09.2017

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
Leaf pick coming up! #84
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
The price to dump Marleau for 1 year is a 1st round pick. That's ridiculous, but necessary due to the current cap restraints.

I do find it funny though. People on here were claiming that they would get a return for Marleau. I guess they didn't realize that the return was a 6th round pick

All joking aside. Leafs now have 14M in cap space. Enough to sign Marner + some lower line players. Now they need to move the Horton contract so that they can sign Kap + Johnsson and then they can ice a team that is slightly worst than last year.

- RedRevenge


Lmao, that is false.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
I don't see that.

Every other top RFA in the league is not signed right now.

Its a process. It's just a classic Leaf fan thing to do to expect failure before anything is even done. It is June 22nd...

- Santo_44

well they had no reason to assume otherwise so it's hard to fault them. they are no doubt scrambling right now though and having to waste assets to dump a guy with 1 year left on his deal is the result.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
Leaf pick coming up! #84
- Larry_Fine


expect it to be turned into a 3rd and 5th
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
Wedgie's take:

If Dubas can get rid of Zaitsev and get everyone else signed, today was a good Leafy day.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
The price to dump Marleau for 1 year is a 1st round pick. That's ridiculous, but necessary due to the current cap restraints.

I do find it funny though. People on here were claiming that they would get a return for Marleau. I guess they didn't realize that the return was a 6th round pick

All joking aside. Leafs now have 14M in cap space. Enough to sign Marner + some lower line players. Now they need to move the Horton contract so that they can sign Kap + Johnsson and then they can ice a team that is slightly worst than last year.

- RedRevenge


If you are going to troll, at least get your facts straight. Every Leafs fan knew it would cost something to unload Marleau's contract.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
Lmao, that is false.
- LeafGuy89


and its a worser team
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
It seems that you don't (Most leaf fans don't know how LTIR works on here).

You can exceed 10% over the cap through the summer, but you must be under or at cap by the 1st day of the season. This is why the Blackhawks had to dump the Hossa contract a few years ago.

- RedRevenge


nothing to do with ltir.
ltir can be used starting from summer.
rest of roster needs to be under cap at start season.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
expect it to be turned into a 3rd and 5th
- MaximusAurelius

Vegas with a steal at #79!
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
well they had no reason to assume otherwise so it's hard to fault them. they are no doubt scrambling right now though and having to waste assets to dump a guy with 1 year left on his deal is the result.
- daeth


Lou shouldn't of gave him the 3rd year.

Dubas is just cleaning up a mess he knew he had to deal with eventually.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Jun 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
well they had no reason to assume otherwise so it's hard to fault them. they are no doubt scrambling right now though and having to waste assets to dump a guy with 1 year left on his deal is the result.
- daeth


So you risk not having money to sign Marner and important depth players, in order to keep an overaged bum?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
The Goat, Stuart Percy, Tyler Biggs....

gotta love those safe picks.

- Santo_44


Right. And any picks coming back in trading kap or Johnsson or from an offer sheet is still just a chance.

Bird in the hand worth two in the Bush. Muzzin is guaranteed in the line up and Marleau is guaranteed out.

Sucks it cost so much but that's the price to fix a mistake
Triple-T
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This offseason has been excellent for the Canadiens so far,, ON
Joined: 05.03.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
You understand how LTIR works, right?

Plus they can be 10% over the cap through the summer...

- lumlums



Please stop using facts, It confuses people.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
It seems that you don't (Most leaf fans don't know how LTIR works on here).

You can exceed 10% over the cap through the summer, but you must be under or at cap by the 1st day of the season. This is why the Blackhawks had to dump the Hossa contract a few years ago.

- RedRevenge



https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq#offseason

Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
well they had no reason to assume otherwise so it's hard to fault them. they are no doubt scrambling right now though and having to waste assets to dump a guy with 1 year left on his deal is the result.
- daeth


It's unfortunate but buying him out was still too much for the leafs and because it's a 35+ contract retirement isnt a choice either.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:45 PM ET
Wedgie's take:

If Dubas can get rid of Zaitsev and get everyone else signed, today was a good Leafy day.

- Atomic Wedgie


If Marner, Kap, and Johnsson come in at 15 Milly and Zaitsev can be traded then they've got about 6-7 Milly to spend on two D'men.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
Thanks #freehunter
- DrunkenCanuck



Korshkov over DeBrincat
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:48 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
Mitch Marner’s agent Darren Ferris is slated to leave the draft shortly en route to catch a flight home. Ferris and Leafs GM Kyle Dubas did not meet this week in Vancouver. Obviously lots of time both both sides to connect in Toronto this week.



mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:48 PM ET
wait a minute.
the 6million he now compensates could have almost been completely covered earlier by signing marner to 8mln and matthews to 10mln contracts earlier.

- MaximusAurelius

Marner wasn't signing 8m ever. Or do youbforget his dad's rant? They were always going to July 1st.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Jun 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
Dubas sure does love his smaller defenseman, or players in general.

Kokkonen 5'11 but a fairly stocky 200lbs.
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