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gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Jun 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
It has everything to do with maturity. Because even a little kid isn't going to hold onto a silly little grudge over moves he didn't like for 5 entire years and than use it as the basis to make a life changing decision. You could use some of that maturity...
- joel878


I laugh at your naivety. Why do you think he loves Toronto so much he will try to retire as a leaf regardless of what happens?

And, commenting on someone ‘s maturity that you’ve never met in your life is a such a mature thing to do. Let me guess. You probably vote for Trudeau too, right?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
hyman gets 40 points on a line with a younger matthews - and people say he sucks and cannot generato offense.
johnsson is a guy that at 24y old plays his first nhl season and gets 43 points on a line with matthews + pp time.
hyman is on a 2.25mln aav contract, but somehow 3.5aav on a 4y deal for johnsson is a 'good deal'.
johnsson deal is a 0.75mln-1mln aav overpayment - johnsson should get just a few 100k more than connor brown.

same people saying that brock nelson deal is terrible are now saying johnsson deal is great.

bunch of teenage dubas fangirls

- MaximusAurelius



Why are you comparing this deal to Nelson? Wtf one guy is ufa and got 6mil one guy is a rookie and singed for way less than 6 mil.

Makes no sense to even try to make this comparison.

Johnson scored 20 as a rookie, the deal is a fair deal.

Stop being dumb
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
He asked to leave, thus trading him doesn't mean a lack of loyalty. How are you not getting this ?
- burn

He knew, for the Leafs to take the next step the Leaf would need the cap space.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
If Hyman signed his deal today it is 3 mil + easily.

Just stop.

- joel878

hyman is worth 5x5.5 if johnsson is 3.5mln aav and nylander 6.9mln
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Jun 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
Don't be surprised if you see a lot of confused Queef fans today, they aren't sure what round 2 and beyond looks like





ZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
I laugh at your naivety. Why do you think he loves Toronto so much he will try to retire as a leaf regardless of what happens?

And, commenting on someone ‘s maturity that you’ve never met in your life is a such a mature thing to do. Let me guess. You probably vote for Trudeau too, right?

- gamerdoc



Well if this post dissent cement it then I don't know.

Holy (frank)
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
hyman is worth 5x5.5 if johnsson is 3.5mln aav and nylander 6.9mln
- MaximusAurelius



No.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
I laugh at your naivety. Why do you think he loves Toronto so much he will try to retire as a leaf regardless of what happens?

And, commenting on someone ‘s maturity that you’ve never met in your life is a such a mature thing to do. Let me guess. You probably vote for Trudeau too, right?

- gamerdoc


I didn't say that at all. I said that he's not going to leave Toronto in 5 years simply because they traded marleau in the summer of 2019 after marleau asked to be traded.

Wow, lol. Well that about sums up that situation. Are you even old enough to vote?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
I laugh at your naivety. Why do you think he loves Toronto so much he will try to retire as a leaf regardless of what happens?

And, commenting on someone ‘s maturity that you’ve never met in your life is a such a mature thing to do. Let me guess. You probably vote for Trudeau too, right?

- gamerdoc

gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Jun 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
He asked to leave, thus trading him doesn't mean a lack of loyalty. How are you not getting this ?
- burn


All I’m saying is AM will understand, if he hasn’t already, all this is just a business... don’t expect too much loyalty from him unless the situation at the time is very favorable in 5 years.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
He knew, for the Leafs to take the next step the Leaf would need the cap space.
- bobbyisno1



He also wanted to go back home. This wasn't the leafs forcing him into something he didn't want. He had nmc, he controlled fully.

There is no lack of loyalty here.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Don't be surprised if you see a lot of confused Queef fans today, they aren't sure what round 2 and beyond looks like





ZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

- Komisaurus Rex

MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Why are you comparing this deal to Nelson? Wtf one guy is ufa and got 6mil one guy is a rookie and singed for way less than 6 mil.

Makes no sense to even try to make this comparison.

Johnson scored 20 as a rookie, the deal is a fair deal.

Stop being dumb

- burn


he is 24y old.
this is his peak.
connor brown is 11months older and put in similar numbers 2 seasons ago.
a 2y deal at 3.5mln would have been better but 4y deal over 2.75mln is just a bad contract decision
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Don't be surprised if you see a lot of confused Queef fans today, they aren't sure what round 2 and beyond looks like
komiiksourus IDIOT




ZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

- Komisaurus Rex


Fixed
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
All I’m saying is AM will understand, if he hasn’t already, all this is just a business... don’t expect too much loyalty from him unless the situation at the time is very favorable in 5 years.
- gamerdoc



Why wouldn't it be?
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
hyman is worth 5x5.5 if johnsson is 3.5mln aav and nylander 6.9mln
- MaximusAurelius


Oh boy.

So johnssons 20 goals as a rookie is worth 3.5, and hymans 20 goals in his 4th season is worth 5.5 million. Yet we're using a contract hyman signed 2 years ago as the basis for johnsson being overpaid.

Lol, k.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
hyman gets 40 points on a line with a younger matthews - and people say he sucks and cannot generato offense.
johnsson is a guy that at 24y old plays his first nhl season and gets 43 points on a line with matthews + pp time.
hyman is on a 2.25mln aav contract, but somehow 3.5aav on a 4y deal for johnsson is a 'good deal'.
johnsson deal is a 0.75mln-1mln aav overpayment - johnsson should get just a few 100k more than connor brown.

same people saying that brock nelson deal is terrible are now saying johnsson deal is great.

bunch of teenage dubas fangirls

- MaximusAurelius


Hyman played more than twice as many minutes with Matthews as Johnsson.

But if you take their rates, Hyman had an xGF/60 of 2.75 and an xGA/60 of 2.53 for a net of .22.

Johnsson had an xGF/60 of 2.96 and an xGA of 2.47 for a net of .49.

Johnsson also passes the eye test. He's offensively more gifted.

People aren't saying Hyman doesn't have value - he's very good at what he does, and I like him on the team. But he isn't an offensive catalyst.

Even projections had Johnsson at $3.7m over 4 years.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
he is 24y old.
this is his peak.
connor brown is 11months older and put in similar numbers 2 seasons ago.
a 2y deal at 3.5mln would have been better but 4y deal over 2.75mln is just a bad contract decision

- MaximusAurelius



No, it's a fair deal. No win for either.

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
hyman gets 40 points on a line with a younger matthews - and people say he sucks and cannot generato offense.
johnsson is a guy that at 24y old plays his first nhl season and gets 43 points on a line with matthews + pp time.
hyman is on a 2.25mln aav contract, but somehow 3.5aav on a 4y deal for johnsson is a 'good deal'.
johnsson deal is a 0.75mln-1mln aav overpayment - johnsson should get just a few 100k more than connor brown.

same people saying that brock nelson deal is terrible are now saying johnsson deal is great.

bunch of teenage dubas fangirls

- MaximusAurelius



You’re such an idiot. Amazing.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
Hyman played more than twice as many minutes with Matthews as Johnsson.

But if you take their rates, Hyman had an xGF/60 of 2.75 and an xGA/60 of 2.53 for a net of .22.

Johnsson had an xGF/60 of 2.96 and an xGA of 2.47 for a net of .49.

Johnsson also passes the eye test. He's offensively more gifted.

People aren't saying Hyman doesn't have value - he's very good at what he does, and I like him on the team. But he isn't an offensive catalyst.

Even projections had Johnsson at $3.7m over 4 years.

- Monkeypunk


But dubas signed Johnson so it's bad.

See right through his, he's a window.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 22 @ 5:01 PM ET
hyman is worth 5x5.5 if johnsson is 3.5mln aav and nylander 6.9mln
- MaximusAurelius


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 22 @ 5:01 PM ET
Oh boy.

So johnssons 20 goals as a rookie is worth 3.5, and hymans 20 goals in his 4th season is worth 5.5 million. Yet we're using a contract hyman signed 2 years ago as the basis for johnsson being overpaid.

Lol, k.

- joel878



He's clueless.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 22 @ 5:01 PM ET
he is 24y old.
this is his peak.
connor brown is 11months older and put in similar numbers 2 seasons ago.
a 2y deal at 3.5mln would have been better but 4y deal over 2.75mln is just a bad contract decision

- MaximusAurelius

You really need to take up another sport
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 22 @ 5:01 PM ET
I laugh at your naivety. Why do you think he loves Toronto so much he will try to retire as a leaf regardless of what happens?

And, commenting on someone ‘s maturity that you’ve never met in your life is a such a mature thing to do. Let me guess. You probably vote for Trudeau too, right?

- gamerdoc



What does politics have to do with this? Another moron.
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