I sincerely hope all of MM’s stance is more of posturing because Leafs won’t survive a bad deal with MM

On the other hand, AM is as good as gone if MM is gone, after what happened to Marleau. I am sure he understands it’s just a business, but he will also perceive the situation as lack of loyalty from the team, and being an American kid, I just don’t buy the idea he would have any kind of loyalty to Toronto when people closest to him are all gone and he has freedom to play wherever he wants to.
- gamerdoc

What?
Marleau asked to be traded.

I sincerely hope all of MM’s stance is more of posturing because Leafs won’t survive a bad deal with MM

On the other hand, AM is as good as gone if MM is gone, after what happened to Marleau. I am sure he understands it’s just a business, but he will also perceive the situation as lack of loyalty from the team, and being an American kid, I just don’t buy the idea he would have any kind of loyalty to Toronto when people closest to him are all gone and he has freedom to play wherever he wants to in 5 years.
- gamerdoc

Think Matthews has shown himself to be a little more mature than to remain bitter about moves made this summer 5 years down the road...

yes they can.
leafs are still going to trade kadri and nylander.
plenty of room.
- MaximusAurelius

Who ties your shoes? (frank) sakes

Who ties your shoes? (frank) sakes
- burn

He's working so hard to steal the UG mantle. I'll give him that.

"New Profile Pic"- Subban

What?
Marleau asked to be traded.
- bobbyisno1

Sure, but he saw the writing on the wall. All local media talked about was how bad his contract was, and how that will impede the team’s progress.

I sincerely hope all of MM’s stance is more of posturing because Leafs won’t survive a bad deal with MM

On the other hand, AM is as good as gone if MM is gone, after what happened to Marleau. I am sure he understands it’s just a business, but he will also perceive the situation as lack of loyalty from the team, and being an American kid, I just don’t buy the idea he would have any kind of loyalty to Toronto when people closest to him are all gone and he has freedom to play wherever he wants to in 5 years.
- gamerdoc

What the (frank)

Dubas got Kap and Johnsson in line now. Solid work.

MItch to go but still think more moves comin too

So far so good overall really

I sincerely hope all of MM’s stance is more of posturing because Leafs won’t survive a bad deal with MM

On the other hand, AM is as good as gone if MM is gone, after what happened to Marleau. I am sure he understands it’s just a business, but he will also perceive the situation as lack of loyalty from the team, and being an American kid, I just don’t buy the idea he would have any kind of loyalty to Toronto when people closest to him are all gone and he has freedom to play wherever he wants to in 5 years.
- gamerdoc

Please keep your optimism in check...you're threatening Zezel's fanboy status.

Sure, but he saw the writing on the wall. All local media talked about was how bad his contract was, and how that will impede the team’s progress.
- gamerdoc

Forget the shovel to keep diggin that hole. Just use a backhoe!

🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

Sure, but he saw the writing on the wall. All local media talked about was how bad his contract was, and how that will impede the team’s progress.
- gamerdoc

So asking for a trade, and thn being traded is a lack of respect by the team? Do you even understand what you're writing??

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- GreatGigInTheSky

Sure, but he saw the writing on the wall. All local media talked about was how bad his contract was, and how that will impede the team’s progress.
- gamerdoc

So you are saying he wasn't in on it?
His family moved back to California for christ sake.

Think Matthews has shown himself to be a little more mature than to remain bitter about moves made this summer 5 years down the road...
- joel878

It has nothing to do with maturity... why do you think staying with Toronto is a mature thing to do? Of course, a lot can happen in 5 years. He could meet a girl in Toronto, and Toronto may become a dynasty in 5 years. But it would involve a bit of luck, especially if we end up losing MM

So asking for a trade, and thn being traded is a lack of respect by the team? Do you even understand what you're writing??
- burn

This is your fanbase.

This is your fanbase on drugs.

Any questions?

This is your fanbase.

This is your fanbase on drugs.

Any questions?
- Roadrunner75

Yes


Four w's come up.

It has nothing to do with maturity... why do you think staying with Toronto is a mature thing to do? Of course, a lot can happen in 5 years. He could meet a girl in Toronto, and Toronto may become a dynasty in 5 years. But it would involve a bit of luck, especially if we end up losing MM
- gamerdoc

It has everything to do with maturity. Because even a little kid isn't going to hold onto a silly little grudge over moves he didn't like for 5 entire years and than use it as the basis to make a life changing decision. You could use some of that maturity...

So you are saying he wasn't in on it?
His family moved back to California for christ sake.
- bobbyisno1

That's a pretty good reason.

So you are saying he wasn't in on it?
His family moved back to California for christ sake.
- bobbyisno1

Look, he’s a legend. He is a stand up guy with pride. He knows his time here is up. He doesn’t need money. And he also realized winning a cup in Toronto is not any easier than doing it in SJ. Your root is in CA. What would you do in his situation?

I mean look at Zeitsev? Much less of a player but he also knows he’s not wanted here. He demands a trade. See a pattern?

This is your fanbase.

This is your fanbase on drugs.

Any questions?
- Roadrunner75

Just brutal.

That's a pretty good reason.
- Woderwick

I'm not a believer but the other reason would work for me.

hyman gets 40 points on a line with a younger matthews - and people say he sucks and cannot generato offense.
johnsson is a guy that at 24y old plays his first nhl season and gets 43 points on a line with matthews + pp time.
hyman is on a 2.25mln aav contract, but somehow 3.5aav on a 4y deal for johnsson is a 'good deal'.
johnsson deal is a 0.75mln-1mln aav overpayment - johnsson should get just a few 100k more than connor brown.

same people saying that brock nelson deal is terrible are now saying johnsson deal is great.

bunch of teenage dubas fangirls

Look, he’s a legend. He is a stand up guy with pride. He knows his time here is up. He doesn’t need money. And he also realized winning a cup in Toronto is not any easier than doing it in SJ. Your root is in CA. What would you do in his situation?

I mean look at Zeitsev? Much less of a player but he also knows he’s not wanted here. He demands a trade. See a pattern?
- gamerdoc

So you are arguing your own argument?

Look, he’s a legend. He is a stand up guy with pride. He knows his time here is up. He doesn’t need money. And he also realized winning a cup in Toronto is not any easier than doing it in SJ. Your root is in CA. What would you do in his situation?
- gamerdoc

He asked to leave, thus trading him doesn't mean a lack of loyalty. How are you not getting this ?

hyman gets 40 points on a line with a younger matthews - and people say he sucks and cannot generato offense.
johnsson is a guy that at 24y old plays his first nhl season and gets 43 points on a line with matthews + pp time.
hyman is on a 2.25mln aav contract, but somehow 3.5aav on a 4y deal for johnsson is a 'good deal'.
johnsson deal is a 0.75mln-1mln aav overpayment - johnsson should get just a few 100k more than connor brown.

same people saying that brock nelson deal is terrible are now saying johnsson deal is great.

bunch of teenage dubas fangirls
- MaximusAurelius

If Hyman signed his deal today it is 3 mil + easily.

Just stop.