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My first reaction to the pick was frustrating. Rather have seen us pick-up Zegras.
Looking at it now and based on Holland's game-plan for Broberg, I think it may serve us well later on.
Offensively, we need a proven commodity now (not to mention if we go by what he said in his press conference) and by selecting a defender over a forward, I wouldn't be surprised if Holland goes out and makes an acquisition for a top 6 winger. - EdmHockeyMan
Once Cozens was gone, I wasn't worried about missing out on a forward (other than Tomasino). Im a big fan of the pick, but if he can approach Lindholm or even Klefbom territory, I can't say I'm worried. |
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I'd give Perry a try at a one year deal for not too much. Maybe he can replicate Maroon's success while being a Grade-A female genitalia. Would gratifying to throw some more female genitaliaery back at the Ducks. - MaximumBone
Please no.
Oiler fans have suffered so much, must we endure Perry in Oiler silks too? |
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Please no.
Oiler fans have suffered so much, must we endure Perry in Oiler silks too? - Wildschwein
for 3 years at 3 per. |
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for 3 years at 3 per. - smellmyfinger
*vomits on a puppy* |
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Please no.
Oiler fans have suffered so much, must we endure Perry in Oiler silks too? - Wildschwein
If Maroon could thrive with his slow boots a decent hands, Perry can probably do similar for cheap. I can understand some apprehension, but I'm trying to compare skillsets. Perry doesn't seem to have stone hands like Lucic does, so one would think he'd fill the role well. |
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If Maroon could thrive with his slow boots a decent hands, Perry can probably do similar for cheap. I can understand some apprehension, but I'm trying to compare skillsets. Perry doesn't seem to have stone hands like Lucic does, so one would think he'd fill the role well. - MaximumBone
But couldn’t we bypass Perry and just sign Maroon for the same money and term? |
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While offersheets are unlikely, I'd be tempted to throw one at a couple Philly RFAs. All of Provorov, Konecny, Sanheim, Laughton, Lindblom and even Hartman would be welcome additions to the Oilers in some capacity or another. With the right approach, you could likely coax one of Laughton or Lindblom outta them and solve part of our 3rd line issue. |
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But couldn’t we bypass Perry and just sign Maroon for the same money and term? - Wildschwein
Not convinced that a.) Maroon is keen on leaving St Louis or b.) that Maroon wouldn't want too much term to leave St Louis. Perry likely takes a year or two. |
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While offersheets are unlikely, I'd be tempted to throw one at a couple Philly RFAs. All of Provorov, Konecny, Sanheim, Laughton, Lindblom and even Hartman would be welcome additions to the Oilers in some capacity or another. With the right approach, you could likely coax one of Laughton or Lindblom outta them and solve part of our 3rd line issue. - MaximumBone
Indeed they would. Wouldn’t cost too terrible much either. |
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Not convinced that a.) Maroon is keen on leaving St Louis or b.) that Maroon wouldn't want too much term to leave St Louis. Perry likely takes a year or two. - MaximumBone
Hard to say. I’m not even sure that St Louis wants Maroon back. He didn’t exactly have his best season as a Blue. |
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Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB Joined: 07.29.2013
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I don't think this thread is freaking out about the Broberg pick too much but- in case you are- keep in mind that one of Broberg's noted talents involves defending off the rush and pinching opposing players out of the play as they enter the zone (ala Larsson). Even if his offensive game doesn't manifest (slightly better numbers than H Lindholm), he still has the toolkit to be a Lindholm or Larsson. I believe elite, true-defensive guys have more value than the market might fool us into thinking. - MaximumBone
What everyones issue is that he was projected to go around 18, not (frank)ing 8. If you want him that badly, trade down a few spots, acquire additional assets and then take him. Secondly, he wasnt and isnt a need. Our forward depth at every (frank)ing level is in shambles. They have about 4 forwards at each level they can be proud of, the rest are meh. Its a waste of a (frank)ing pick. (frank) Holland. |
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Indeed they would. Wouldn’t cost too terrible much either. - Wildschwein
Adding Laughton alongside a Puljujarvi for Wood deal, Gagner for Pageau, signing Pirri and either signing a Donskoi/Panik or trading for a Kreider/Zucker (cap permitting) would fix things for the short term.
Pirri- Nuge- Donskoi
Wood- Laughton- Pageau
Gambo- Khaira- Currie
Nygard, Lucic, Cave
Pirri (1.3), Wood (net 1.25), Laughton (3), Pageau (net -0.05), Donskoi (3.45) and Khaira (1) totals 9.95mil which is RIGHT under where we'll be for cap space after burying Brodziak and Manning (8.33+~1.8mil)
This excludes any possible trades that free up cap space. |
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What everyones issue is that he was projected to go around 18, not (frank)ing 8. If you want him that badly, trade down a few spots, acquire additional assets and then take him. Secondly, he wasnt and isnt a need. Our forward depth at every (frank)ing level is in shambles. They have about 4 forwards at each level they can be proud of, the rest are meh. Its a waste of a (frank)ing pick. (frank) Holland. - wreckage
I've seen him ranked anywhere from 7 to 21- no real consensus. Are you prepared to decry Yzerman for his pick of Seider, too? Just because there are rankings doesn't mean other teams around there didn't have him higher (I has heard Vancouver).
If you believe in a guy, you go for him. You try to trade down (as he says he tried to), but if it doesn't yield results then you decide between your belief of BPA or positional need. Holland could well be wrong but so could you and all those overreacting to the pick.
As for need, I agree we need top-6 skill but we need it now. Proven assets that can and will produce now. I have no qualms stocking the D to trade out from or increase our chances at polishing a #1.
EDIT: To clarify, it goes without saying that we could still use the cheap offense a couple years from now, too. |
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I've seen him ranked anywhere from 7 to 21- no real consensus. Are you prepared to decry Yzerman for his pick of Seider, too? Just because there are rankings doesn't mean other teams around there didn't have him higher (I has heard Vancouver).
If you believe in a guy, you go for him. You try to trade down (as he says he tried to), but if it doesn't yield results then you decide between your belief of BPA or positional need. Holland could well be wrong but so could you and all those overreacting to the pick.
As for need, I agree we need top-6 skill but we need it now. Proven assets that can and will produce now. I have no qualms stocking the D to trade out from or increase our chances at polishing a #1.
EDIT: To clarify, it goes without saying that we could still use the cheap offense a couple years from now, too. - MaximumBone
To reinforce my earlier point, his scouting report has some similarities to Lindholm's and they were both picked a step higher than many thought they should be.
https://thehockeywriters....l-draft-prospect-profile/ |
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Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB Joined: 07.29.2013
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I've seen him ranked anywhere from 7 to 21- no real consensus. Are you prepared to decry Yzerman for his pick of Seider, too? Just because there are rankings doesn't mean other teams around there didn't have him higher (I has heard Vancouver).
If you believe in a guy, you go for him. You try to trade down (as he says he tried to), but if it doesn't yield results then you decide between your belief of BPA or positional need. Holland could well be wrong but so could you and all those overreacting to the pick.
As for need, I agree we need top-6 skill but we need it now. Proven assets that can and will produce now. I have no qualms stocking the D to trade out from or increase our chances at polishing a #1.
EDIT: To clarify, it goes without saying that we could still use the cheap offense a couple years from now, too. - MaximumBone
What detroit does does not affect me. I could care less about who they took.
Defense is a position we have plenty of depth of in more than one league. Wasnt close to an area of need. Meanwhile we still have no wingers currently or in the minors who look to be a top piece moving forward.
As for Broberg's ranking. I saw him anywhere from 10-29 before reports came out that Holland had interest. He's a tall fast skating defenceman who transitioned to defence a few years ago. Questionable IQ and cant shoot. From what i see we drafted a taller Marc-Andre Bergeron minus the scoring abilityat 8th overall because the GM had a feeling about him. (frank) Holland.
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