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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:04 PM ET
Why can Saad exhibit some of he same tendencies and be allowed to play every nite? Certainly, he is an above average defender. But if floating is the focus, it is high time someone address HIM! He was a complete bystander the first half of the season at 6M per. Q blew a gasket once and sat him for one measly game. A little consistency would be a welcome relief.
- gabriel

You comparing a 50 point guy with a 30 point guy?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:05 PM ET
By the statistically superior method of the handful of Predator games I watched after he signed with them... that’s how.


- Chief4Feathers

Fight me!
John McDonough
Joined: 11.30.2017

Jun 22 @ 8:14 PM ET
Ya John, I was kidding, not going to debate global geography on draft day.

You are doing it just to distract us fans, it won't work, we are on to you

- vabeachbear



gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:15 PM ET
You comparing a 50 point guy with a 30 point guy?
- Elbows15


Could easily be. Not clamoring for consistency from you, but rather Hawks brass. How
They choose to dole out time played, seems to not be warranted by compete levels across the board. If that were the case, Saad wouldn't have racked up the 20 point disparity. Not comparing the two guys. Just highlighting the fact that for huge swaths of time, Saad was a complete nothingburger, and was still allowed to lace 'em up.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Jun 22 @ 8:26 PM ET
Saw this on the writeup on the Blackhawks website about Dach:

At age 18, Dach is 6-foot-4 in street shoes, having grown three inches in the last couple years.

Since the knock on him seems to be on his skating, maybe the growth spurt made his skating a little awkward during the adjustment?

I am hopeful for Dach reaching his ceiling, and taking Vlasic in Round 2 offsets not taking Byram a little bit. Really like the D pipeline right now, it is very deep and could accommodate a trade or two.

Keith - Murphy
Maatta - Jokiharju
Gustafsson - Seabrook

Dahlstrom - Forsling - Koekkoek

Beaudin - Boqvist
Tuulola - Carlsson
Gilbert - Hillman
Krys

Vlasic - Mitchell
Ess - Galvas
Moberg

Wild Cards - Shea, Laavainen, Soderberg, Ryczek, Massie, etc.
rwilliams88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: carol stream
Joined: 02.20.2009

Jun 22 @ 8:31 PM ET
Pass on Lee. I love him, but he plays a heavy game that will minimize his impact at his likely cap hit into his 30s.
- Bjm84

But the next few years he’s in his prime and gives us a better shot at winning, I’ll take it
rwilliams88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: carol stream
Joined: 02.20.2009

Jun 22 @ 8:35 PM ET
Why wasn't Zegras drafted higher than? He was passed by several teams.
- RedRevenge

For the hawks Dach I think makes more sense...but if we were the kings maybe zegras would be the better pick.....I think Dach is a better fit for us then zegras but think zegras might end up being the more productive player, point wise
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:38 PM ET
For the hawks Dach I think makes more sense...but if we were the kings maybe zegras would be the better pick.....I think Dach is a better fit for us then zegras but think zegras might end up being the more productive player, point wise
- rwilliams88

Has Zegras show to be the defensive player that Dach is supposed to be?
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:41 PM ET
Has Zegras show to be the defensive player that Dach is supposed to be?
- StLBravesFan


I don't think that's a weakness. The REASON I do like Zegras is he plays with a big time edge. He's a very nice prospect, but no better/worse than Dach.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:42 PM ET
Give me a break. There is virtually no major difference in projection between 3 and 9. Even that Zegres was almost NEVER projected to be 3.

You're just trolling. Arguing about prospects of two players drafted, neither of which are "generational talents". Both could be good, both could bust even though you seem to think you know it all.

- kwolf68

The reality is there is no generational talent in this draft. A lot of very good young players yes; destined for greatness no.

F$ck Jack Hughes and the other midget Montreal drafted, little twerps like them get pancaked when the real playing starts. Just ask Craig Berube and other scary human beings like Shea Weber and Zdeno Chara.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:47 PM ET
Patterns:


#Blackhawks 2019 draft picks:

3. Kirby Dach (C) 6'4"
43. Alex Vlasic (D) 6'6"
105. Michal Teply (F) 6'3"
123. Antti Saarela (F) 5'11"
167. Dominic Basse (G) 6'6"
194. Cole Moberg (D) 6'3"
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 22 @ 8:51 PM ET
Al:

Simmonds not returning to the Preds, health is a concern but Bowman may make a call & also on Anders Lee a LW, both can provide something the Hawks don't have much of... Story out mins ago in a NY paper has quotes from Lee and he isn't thrilled about still not having a deal.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 22 @ 8:52 PM ET
The reality is there is no generational talent in this draft. A lot of very good young players yes; destined for greatness no.

F$ck Jack Hughes and the other midget Montreal drafted, little twerps like them get pancaked when the real playing starts. Just ask Craig Berube and other scary human beings like Shea Weber and Zdeno Chara.

- RickJ


Yep, just look at what that little Yankee pansy Patrick Kane has done in his career after being #1 overall.

What has Shea Weber done in the NHL Playoffs? Oh yeah, he’s never made it out of the 2nd round!

StanBo looks to have learned that you need both size and skill in your lineup. Dach and Vlasic are both gunna be legit NHLers
John McDonough
Joined: 11.30.2017

Jun 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
Yep, just look at what that little Yankee pansy Patrick Kane has done in his career after being #1 overall.

What has Shea Weber done in the NHL Playoffs? Oh yeah, he’s never made it out of the 2nd round!

StanBo looks to have learned that you need both size and skill in your lineup. Dach and Vlasic are both gunna be legit NHLers

- EnzoD



DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
Patterns:


#Blackhawks 2019 draft picks:

3. Kirby Dach (C) 6'4"
43. Alex Vlasic (D) 6'6"
105. Michal Teply (F) 6'3"
123. Antti Saarela (F) 5'11"
167. Dominic Basse (G) 6'6"
194. Cole Moberg (D) 6'3"

- mrpaulish


Stan goes from drafting Smurfs to drafting a bunch of useless John Scott wannabes.
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Jun 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
Yep, just look at what that little Yankee pansy Patrick Kane has done in his career after being #1 overall.

What has Shea Weber done in the NHL Playoffs? Oh yeah, he’s never made it out of the 2nd round!

StanBo looks to have learned that you need both size and skill in your lineup. Dach and Vlasic are both gunna be legit NHLers

- EnzoD


Both Kaner and Denis Savard are/were generational talents. All things being equal, wouldn't you opt for the larger player, especially in playoffs? Kaner awareness was off the charts. Lesser lights may have been smashed beyond recognition. It will be interesting to see how ADB performs in playoffs, when we finally get there.
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:24 PM ET
What happened everyone taking a nap or something?
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:27 PM ET
What happened everyone taking a nap or something?
- gifman

Nah the calm before the female dog fest when Stan just eats his chips and does nothing.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:31 PM ET
From our guy Al:

Simmonds not returning to the Preds, health is a concern but Bowman may make a call & also on Anders Lee a LW, both can provide something the Hawks don't have much of... Story out mins ago in a NY paper has quotes from Lee and he isn't thrilled about still not having a deal.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:32 PM ET
Stan goes from drafting Smurfs to drafting a bunch of useless John Scott wannabes.
- DarthKane


Maybe it was Q that wanted the smurfs. He's gone and Stan starts drafting giants.

Sarcasm
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:39 PM ET
Yep, just look at what that little Yankee pansy Patrick Kane has done in his career after being #1 overall.

What has Shea Weber done in the NHL Playoffs? Oh yeah, he’s never made it out of the 2nd round!

StanBo looks to have learned that you need both size and skill in your lineup. Dach and Vlasic are both gunna be legit NHLers

- EnzoD

You managed to come up with one guy who is great and who happened to play on a team with a number of great players to form a great team capable of winning. Cups. When Jack Hughes, Caufield and Debrincat post similar results I will concede to your point.

And you might want tp check Weber's resume in Olympic and World Cup events.

The generational talent handle gets thrown around too easily these days. Probably has been less than a dozen pf them in the history of the NHL.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:44 PM ET
Hearing the Hurricanes and the Capitals are in talks that involve Justin Faulk on the move and Carolina acquiring the rights to and signing Chase Priskie, Quinnipiac defenseman who didn’t sign with Caps. Extent of talks currently unclear, might not be able to acquire rights ATM.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:51 PM ET
Hearing the Hurricanes and the Capitals are in talks that involve Justin Faulk on the move and Carolina acquiring the rights to and signing Chase Priskie, Quinnipiac defenseman who didn’t sign with Caps. Extent of talks currently unclear, might not be able to acquire rights ATM.
- mrpaulish

Somebody put out a BOLO for Stan. He should be making moves considering we are in position to take advantage of other teams cap hell for once.
Beaks99
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:54 PM ET
Somebody put out a BOLO for Stan. He should be making moves considering we are in position to take advantage of other teams cap hell for once.
- BGKarras

Was just thinking that It seems Stan is always on the outside looking in....it just seems like the rest of the league will not deal with him...
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:58 PM ET
Yep, just look at what that little Yankee pansy Patrick Kane has done in his career after being #1 overall.

What has Shea Weber done in the NHL Playoffs? Oh yeah, he’s never made it out of the 2nd round!

StanBo looks to have learned that you need both size and skill in your lineup. Dach and Vlasic are both gunna be legit NHLers

- EnzoD


He smashed Zetterburg’s head into the glass... that counts for something, right?
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