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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 22 @ 6:57 PM ET
Meh
- Elbows15

There were two Perlinis last season, one who was seemingly asleep on his skates and the other, for about three weeks, who was a beast, not only the best Blackhawk but the best player on either team. A one or two year contract at a minimum increase in salary to see if he can show more beast and less sleep. I still think his elite skating and shooting skills a.ong with his size are worth some more patience.
Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 22 @ 6:58 PM ET
Vegas doesn't want to give up Tuch. That is for sure. It all depends on whether they can live with the returns for other players.

The guys they are looking to move are decent players but if it is me, I am giving them an offer that fits what I want to move. If it doesn't work, so be it. Let someone else help them.

None of the players are absolute MUST HAVES.

- Elbows15


This. You’re low balling everything because you have the leverage.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 6:58 PM ET
As long as its short term, cheap and no clauses it’s fine.
- walleyeb1

He doesn't qualify for any clauses as of yet and a year is all he deserves. His QO is more than enough for what he has shown in his career. He wants more, its time to go out and earn it.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 22 @ 6:58 PM ET
Hawks scouting director Mark Kelley on Alex Vlasic, who the Hawks took with the No. 43 pick: "To be honest we had him going in the first day of the draft."
Bhawks44
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Berwyn , IL
Joined: 05.16.2015

Jun 22 @ 6:58 PM ET
I could live with the Hawks trading Anisimov for picks then trading for Stasney.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jun 22 @ 6:59 PM ET
I’m interested to see Perlini after a full camp and more direction on what his role is and how he needs to play. He came to the Hawks in the middle of of an upheaval, and was inconsistent in his effort/performance. I’m cautiously optimistic he can still be of use on the roster.
- Chief4Feathers



I agree , Perlini has all the tools to make or break . Maybe he gets his head on straight and has a breakout year.

I would really like to see Stan go out and sign Anders Lee, that kid is a stud would look great alongside toews.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 22 @ 7:02 PM ET
Interesting. If Chicago does acquire another RHD who then becomes the odd man out ? Or does joker spend 1 more year in the minors in your opinion?

STASNEY would be actually give Chicago better depth down the middle to allow Kane and toews to be split up.

- Taylorst1


Have to play Joki this year and to start bringing up the prospects one at a time.

Assuming Forsling goes back to Sweden and Dahlstrom used in a trade, as far as I'm concerned Gus would be the odd man out.


kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jun 22 @ 7:03 PM ET
my thought on the draft is the went with guys that had a ton of ceiling left. which is good. in the past drafts back in 14-15 they went heavy on US guys and heavy on tall guys but generally took them a round or 2 early. this time it looked more like they took the guy with biggest upside at the time and took guys that had real value.

I still think I go with bowen or turcotte. Is dach gezalf or hayes? might be hayes. in other drafts there were guys taken that I knew would never play in the NHL the day they were drafted. I think every pick they took has a chance beacuse they have a few NHL skills it sounds like. many non NHL skills as well. IE if they can work on the bad parts. some of the guys like knott, starret dahlstrom, gilbert, coughlin, ollfsen, a few others. I did not see any NHL quality skill in there game and were they are solid in alot of respects they are AHL solid not NHL level players
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 22 @ 7:03 PM ET
Kirby Dach picks Bowen Byram’s pocket and finds twine 👀🔥

https://twitter.com/certi.../1142301447956193280?s=21
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 7:03 PM ET
There were two Perlinis last season, one who was seemingly asleep on his skates and the other, for about three weeks, who was a beast, not only the best Blackhawk but the best player on either team. A one or two year contract at a minimum increase in salary to see if he can show more beast and less sleep. I still think his elite skating and shooting skills a.ong with his size are worth some more patience.
- paulr

I still think he is what he is. I get your point but how many times do you have to be sat to get the point?

Further, its a pretty simple fix for him. His effort is inconsistent. Mistakes happen on every play but his are more from just plain not skating. IMO.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:05 PM ET
I still think he is what he is. I get your point but how many times do you have to be sat to get the point?

Further, its a pretty simple fix for him. His effort is inconsistent. Mistakes happen on every play but his are more from just plain not skating. IMO.

- Elbows15


I hear what you’re saying... he’s lining up to be the next Stalberg... but I hope he becomes more.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 22 @ 7:05 PM ET
Vegas doesn't want to give up Tuch. That is for sure. It all depends on whether they can live with the returns for other players.

The guys they are looking to move are decent players but if it is me, I am giving them an offer that fits what I want to move. If it doesn't work, so be it. Let someone else help them.

None of the players are absolute MUST HAVES.

- Elbows15


It's possible they will move one player at a time rather than 2-3 in one deal., thinking the parts being more valuable than the whole. I wouldn't mind one of the names mentioned.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jun 22 @ 7:09 PM ET
Have to play Joki this year and to start bringing up the prospects one at a time.

Assuming Forsling goes back to Sweden and Dahlstrom used in a trade, as far as I'm concerned Gus would be the odd man out.

- boilermaker100


I agree , isn't jokers natural side though LHD and they threw him last year on the RHD side with Keith to adjust him?

I do believe Chicago is looking at another center with all the chatter lately of names Chic ago has checked in on.

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 7:10 PM ET
I hear what you’re saying... he’s lining up to be the next Stalberg... but I hope he becomes more.
- Chief4Feathers

Stalberg's problem wasn't effort, tho. At least I never saw it as that. His hand weren't the greatest but I feel he came closer to maximizing his potential that Perlini has to this point.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 22 @ 7:10 PM ET
I still think he is what he is. I get your point but how many times do you have to be sat to get the point?

Further, its a pretty simple fix for him. His effort is inconsistent. Mistakes happen on every play but his are more from just plain not skating. IMO.

- Elbows15


I think we saw the same thing with some other players in the past. Dustin Byfuglien and Bryan Bickell being two I recall who didn't always have the effort night in and night out as young players but eventually got better in that dept. Not saying Perlini will but he wouldn't be the first guy who was inconsistent as a young player.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 7:11 PM ET
I agree , isn't jokers natural side though LHD and they threw him last year on the RHD side with Keith to adjust him?

I do believe Chicago is looking at another center with all the chatter lately of names Chic ago has checked in on.

- Taylorst1

No. His natural side is the right. He is a righty and that is where he has played most of his career.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 7:13 PM ET
I could live with the Hawks trading Anisimov for picks then trading for Stasney.
- Bhawks44



I think Anisimov is gone, but Stastny isn't the type of forward the Hawks need. Eakin makes more sense.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jun 22 @ 7:15 PM ET
No. His natural side is the right. He is a righty and that is where he has played most of his career.
- Elbows15



Thanks for the clarity. I'm almost positive that Foley was the person mentioning that on air in the first game, that's why I was confused.


STASNEY would be actually great and with the expansion draft it wouldn't hurt Chicago if they lost him it would be beneficial for Chicago with gaining salary back and opening up a spot for dach
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:16 PM ET
Stalberg's problem wasn't effort, tho. At least I never saw it as that. His hand weren't the greatest but I feel he came closer to maximizing his potential that Perlini has to this point.
- Elbows15


Hmmm... I remember after he went to Nashville, he played a much more physical game, used his body more than he ever did as a Hawk.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 7:16 PM ET
I think we saw the same thing with some other players in the past. Dustin Byfuglien and Bryan Bickell being two I recall who didn't always have the effort night in and night out as young players but eventually got better in that dept. Not saying Perlini will but he wouldn't be the first guy who was inconsistent as a young player.
- breadbag

Bickell remained inconsistent his whole career. Trust me. I swore at him enough. lol.

I just don't see Perlini having the hockey sense to be anything more than a 30-35 point guy. Hawks have already launched a few of those in recent years. He just has enough other skills that make you believe there is more.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:18 PM ET
I think we saw the same thing with some other players in the past. Dustin Byfuglien and Bryan Bickell being two I recall who didn't always have the effort night in and night out as young players but eventually got better in that dept. Not saying Perlini will but he wouldn't be the first guy who was inconsistent as a young player.
- breadbag


Yes, but I’ll give the heavy players a bit more slack when it comes to bringing it nigh-in-night-out. There’s only so much banging your body can take during a season.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 7:21 PM ET
Hmmm... I remember after he went to Nashville, he played a much more physical game, used his body more than he ever did as a Hawk.
- Chief4Feathers


How are you defining that? Because his hit totals with the Hawks was higher than the Preds.

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 7:23 PM ET
Lazerus reported that the Hawks may let some of their RFAs, that could be interesting. Perlini and Quenneville will be signed.

Hopefully Stan signs Kampf and Sikura, the others can go. I would think there is some (albeit limited) trade value in Forsling.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:23 PM ET
How are you defining that? Because his hit totals with the Hawks was higher than the Preds.
- Elbows15


By the statistically superior method of the handful of Predator games I watched after he signed with them... that’s how.

SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.19.2016

Jun 22 @ 7:24 PM ET
Any chance the Hawk's let Kampf walk and have John Quenneville replace him on the fourth line?
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