That other piece must be somewhat significant in nature. Otherwise, I would demand someone or something else other than Frederic.
- RangerSaver

I think COL is our best trade partner for Kreider.

How weird would it be if tonight's NHL draft goes down like this one has?





- zazzle

Be the best draft ever

Be the best draft ever
- mdw7413

I don't need that much excitement this year. We got Trouba this week, and then draft Kakko tonight. That's all I need.

Unless Gorton receives a "can't refuse" offer for Kreider alone, or at least dealt in a package to luckily move Shatty or Smith (even if retaining 50% of either's money), or a forward, Gorton should hold onto Kreider until July 1st at the least when free agency begins.

That will allow additional time for Kreider's side and Gorton to discuss a possible contract extension, and for the Rangers to possibly & finally know Panarin's ultimate destination. Should Panarin sign elsewhere, the Rangers would have to likely pay higher than earlier to retain Kreider, unless they have another top alternate option besides Panarin. On the other hand, other teams who also lost out in key on Panarin, or Duchene, may then be more interested in acquiring Kreider, which could increase his trade value.

Otherwise, Gorton must play it safe in buying out Shatty &/or Smith, and trading some excess up front, to insure the cap space is there for this season and near future ones. That, so he can extend Trouba and Kreider long term, plus sign Panarin long term as well, if he as their #1 option wants to be a Ranger.

I say we offer sheet Marner. If we think we’ll be back in the playoffs, are 4 picks 18+ that devestating? I think we’ve built a young enough team to survive that.

How far in advance do you typically prep your ass?
- eichiefs9

Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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Not getting caught up in semantics of “shopped” vs. “listening” — been there, done that, circa June, 2016 — but P.K. Subban’s name is out there floating around in the trade-sphere. NSH believed to be looking to clear cap space for either UFA shopping (Duchene?) or Josi extension.

By no means guaranteed to happen, but it’s one aspect of a lot of NHL draft trade talk going on. Lots of talk doesn’t always lead to draft-day deals. A few execs told me first-round picks may be flip-flopped tonight but big moves involving live bodies by no means a certainty.
- jimbro83

Subban was rumored to be Nashville's trading chip that would be used to acquire significant scoring help after they were eliminated from the postseason, where their lack of offense did them in.

I saw somewhere earlier today where in addition to Chicago being interested, the Preds would also be interested in signing Anders Lee, if the Isles fail to come to terms with him.

How far in advance do you typically prep your ass?
- eichiefs9

I have no intent or interest in receiving

I don't need that much excitement this year. We got Trouba this week, and then draft Kakko tonight. That's all I need.

- Pete V

Come on Pete. Lets go crazy! Pick up some more 1sts

I say we offer sheet Marner. If we think we’ll be back in the playoffs, are 4 picks 18+ that devestating? I think we’ve built a young enough team to survive that.
- nyrangers9479

yes

I say we offer sheet Marner. If we think we’ll be back in the playoffs, are 4 picks 18+ that devestating? I think we’ve built a young enough team to survive that.
- nyrangers9479

The Rangers may have some competition as to that, as per my 1:43 pm comment, in that both Dan Rosen this morning, and EK recently, believing that with Lamoriello heavily talking to the Leafs on something, he could otherwise offer sheet Marner himself, as opposed to remaining in the hunt for Panarin.

The Rangers may have some competition as to that, as per my 1:43 pm comment, in that both Dan Rosen this morning, and EK recently, believing that with Lamoriello heavily talking to the Leafs on something, he could otherwise offer sheet Marner himself, as opposed to remaining in the hunt for Panarin.
- RangerSaver

Brotha, you don't have to make mention to your previous posts, and definitely don't have to mention time stamps. We read the comments. We see your other posts.

yes
- eichiefs9

I've said it before, if Marner isn't worth the 4 1sts than there almost will never be a player worth it. I would however try to work out a trade first even if it meant giving up some really good young players. As a said in the previous thread, you always need cheap roster players. Years 3 and 4 would really hurt the most because those would probably be the picks you'd need ready when you have the cap crunch.

yes
- eichiefs9

If Zucc signs in DAL though it’s 3 years without a 1st

If Zucc signs in DAL though it’s 3 years without a 1st
- nyrangers9479

Trade Kreider for a 2020 1st and it's 2.

Trade Kreider for a 2020 1st and it's 2.
- Tonybere

Still 3 years, but trade him for a 2021 1st and it's two

Still 3 years, but trade him for a 2021 1st and it's two
- Bean_Dip

I guess you're right. I guess I was focused more on wanting an extra 1st next year. It is supposed to be stacked and then a couple lean years to follow.

I've said it before, if Marner isn't worth the 4 1sts than there almost will never be a player worth it. I would however try to work out a trade first even if it meant giving up some really good young players. As a said in the previous thread, you always need cheap roster players. Years 3 and 4 would really hurt the most because those would probably be the picks you'd need ready when you have the cap crunch.
- 2sticks1puck

The other way to look at an offer sheet in the case of Marner, is that you likely will not be guaranteed that any of those four 1st Rounders you surrendered as compensation, would ever equal or better that of Marner, if even close in stature. Furthermore, they may not be even in the top 5 overall to come that close.
However, you are likely giving up four future unknown ranking, upper echelon players, instead of having one elite player ranked in the top 5 overall at its least.

The other way to look at an offer sheet in the case of Marner, is that you likely will not be guaranteed that any of those four 1st Rounders you surrendered as compensation, would ever equal or better that of Marner, if even close in stature. Furthermore, they may not be even in the top 5 overall to come that close.
However, you are likely giving up four future unknown ranking, upper echelon players, instead of having one elite player ranked in the top 5 overall at its least.
- RangerSaver

see 2Sticks post from 3:02.

The other way to look at an offer sheet in the case of Marner, is that you likely will not be guaranteed that any of those four 1st Rounders you surrendered as compensation, would ever equal or better that of Marner, if even close in stature. Furthermore, they may not be even in the top 5 overall to come that close.
However, you are likely giving up four future unknown ranking, upper echelon players, instead of having one elite player ranked in the top 5 overall at its least.
- RangerSaver

If we are doing this right, it's pretty safe to assume they will be picks in the 20s. Obviously there have been several good players that have been picked in that range. That being said, again you always need cheap roster players. The draft is your main source of that. I still don't think people realize how lucky we were to have guys like Hayes and Vesey sign here. We would have been screwed a lot worse, a lot earlier. Even with those two and finding gems like Buch and Duke, we still got depleted pretty fast. Even if Gropp wasn't a bust, we still would have been in pretty rough shape the past couple seasons.

I've said it before, if Marner isn't worth the 4 1sts than there almost will never be a player worth it. I would however try to work out a trade first even if it meant giving up some really good young players. As a said in the previous thread, you always need cheap roster players. Years 3 and 4 would really hurt the most because those would probably be the picks you'd need ready when you have the cap crunch.
- 2sticks1puck

Would you do Chytil, Kravtsov, Hajek and next years first? Too much? Too little?

Would you do Chytil, Kravtsov, Hajek and next years first? Too much? Too little?
- Bean_Dip

I can’t. They gave away 3 years to build this up, I love Marner but I can’t give up current pieces for him. Much rather do futures. It’s defeating the purpose of what they did imo

If we are doing this right, it's pretty safe to assume they will be picks in the 20s. Obviously there have been several good players that have been picked in that range. That being said, again you always need cheap roster players. The draft is your main source of that. I still don't think people realize how lucky we were to have guys like Hayes and Vesey sign here. We would have been screwed a lot worse, a lot earlier. Even with those two and finding gems like Buch and Duke, we still got depleted pretty fast. Even if Gropp wasn't a bust, we still would have been in pretty rough shape the past couple seasons.
- 2sticks1puck

I saw a rumor today in them possibly parting with Gropp to an interested party.

I saw a rumor today in them possibly parting with Gropp to an interested party.
- RangerSaver

You gotta time stamp for that rumor?

Jimmy Murphy
@MurphysLaw74

Just heard an interesting trade rumor via an NHL source that would involve #NYR goalie Henrik Lundqvist. Trying to get more info now, but not sure I can imagine the King anywhere else but in New York! Wow!

#NHLDraft2019

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