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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Draft weekend is a good time for trades. Some names in the rumor mill
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:04 AM ET
Sure
But we also didn’t have to cave
Whether it was the Pegulas’ fault, or Botts, or a combo...
we got hosed

Sakic held onto Duchene till he got the deal he wanted
Yzerman did it with Drouin

At the end of the day...
we got a bunch of yuck

And now the #1 thing everyone is talking about us having to get is a 2C

So hopefully Botts can pull off another Skinner type deal, bc we don’t have many great trade pieces

- jdfitz77


Read that last sentence over and over again and then maybe you’ll see the reasoning behind my tank wishes from December on to acquire another elite talent.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:04 AM ET
I was 4 years old when that happened. Only in Buffalo will we remember a Cup Final Loss. Do they celebrate the Bills Super Bowl Misfortunes as well ?
- Pegullaville

Misfortunes are the only thing a Buffalo Sports fan has to celebrate. You’re GTA’s version of the Cowboy fan in Philly.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:04 AM ET
I still have a ton of faith in Mitts.

I’d try and get a really good 3C that’s cheaper.

Especially if we’re drafting a center at 7

- OneKaneOneCup



Regardless...
utter failure of a trade is, and always has been the point

Wouldn’t we be better off right now if we’d actually gotten a quality return for him?


And as far as 7OA goes...
We should be taking whoever we think will be the best “goal scorer” regardless of position
That’s clearly our biggest weakness
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:06 AM ET
Not really if you think about it
- washedup20


Yes, really
Why do u think Nashville is moving him?

It’s really not so tough

Just go back to your lame attempts at jokes & trolling though
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 21 @ 12:07 AM ET
This whole thing is very exciting.
- SABRES 89



jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:09 AM ET
Read that last sentence over and over again and then maybe you’ll see the reasoning behind my tank wishes from December on to acquire another elite talent.
- Pegullaville


Yeah... your reasoning sucks though
Bc it involves you having to cheer against your team

You said to me we should tank until we have enough talent to compete for the Cup
That means we should be tanking again this year,
right?
Or do u actually think that 7OA is the missing piece?

And we gotta get our Brock Nelson too of course
😂😂😂
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:15 AM ET
No,
a 9mil defenseman on your 3rd pair is poor judgement

- jdfitz77

Only in buffalo is subban a 3rd pairing defenseman.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:23 AM ET
Yeah... your reasoning sucks though
Bc it involves you having to cheer against your team

You said to me we should tank until we have enough talent to compete for the Cup
That means we should be tanking again this year,
right?
Or do u actually think that 7OA is the missing piece?

And we gotta get our Brock Nelson too of course
😂😂😂

- jdfitz77


A Hall of Fame GM seems to agree with me, if we turned ROR into Nelson, Thompson, 31, 2nd rounder 2021 then the return doesn’t look as bad as it does today (even though it’s still a loss).

7th OA should be an integral piece to the core moving forward.

All of the draft pundits I follow are gushing over the 2020 prospects already, some comparing the depth of the draft to 2015 already. So yea if it were up to me I would be patient and not going crazy spending assets we can’t afford to lose to “win now”. Our best chance of success is 2020-2021 anyways so I would not complain at all about adding another top 10 pick in a stacked draft class next year if it came to it.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 21 @ 12:24 AM ET
Only in buffalo is subban a 3rd pairing defenseman.
- Mentalorgasm5



Once you have a down year you’re useless.


Didn’t you get the memo?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:28 AM ET
A Hall of Fame GM seems to agree with me, if we turned ROR into Nelson, Thompson, 31, 2nd rounder 2021 then the return doesn’t look as bad as it does today (even though it’s still a loss).

7th OA should be an integral piece to the core moving forward.

All of the draft pundits I follow are gushing over the 2020 prospects already, some comparing the depth of the draft to 2015 already. So yea if it were up to me I would be patient and not going crazy spending assets we can’t afford to lose to “win now”. Our best chance of success is 2020-2021 anyways so I would not complain at all about adding another top 10 pick in a stacked draft class next year if it came to it.

- Pegullaville


Every single GM ever (even Botts) knows we got hosed on that trade
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:37 AM ET
Every single GM ever (even Botts) knows we got hosed on that trade
- jdfitz77


I was referring to the resigning of Nelson as the first order of business by Lou. Yes everyone knows we lost the trade, would be nice for Tage and the picks to amount to something though for when it actually matters even if they are just complimentary 3rd line forwards.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:39 AM ET
Really, WGR just spent an entire show talking about Game 6 of the 99 cup. 20th anniversary was Wednesday Flacccoville. I’m surprised you didn’t know that. You were probably a Stars fan then.
- Hatboro_Swords


I think he was probably 2 or 3 then.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:40 AM ET
I was 4 years old when that happened. Only in Buffalo will we remember a Cup Final Loss. Do they celebrate the Bills Super Bowl Misfortunes as well ?
- Pegullaville


https://en.wikipedia.org/...iki/Four_Falls_of_Buffalo
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:41 AM ET
Busy night.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:42 AM ET
I think he was probably 2 or 3 then.
- Wetbandit1


One month shy of my 4th birthday.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:43 AM ET
I was referring to the resigning of Nelson as the first order of business by Lou. Yes everyone knows we lost the trade, would be nice for Tage and the picks to amount to something though for when it actually matters even if they are just complimentary 3rd line forwards.
- Pegullaville


I guess
Should be able to acquire that fairly easily though

We can’t keep wasting years of Jack & Dahlin though
Trading ROR set us back

Botts has to be able to add guys to help win NOW,
AND In the future

While drafting well for the future also

It’s not this 1 or the other game that you & a lot of others seem to be playing

Botts has to do BOTH
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:43 AM ET
https://en.wikipedia.org/...iki/Four_Falls_of_Buffalo
- Wetbandit1


I’ll be damned.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 21 @ 12:45 AM ET
One month shy of my 4th birthday.
- Pegullaville



20 and was drinking underage at a Blasdell......
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 21 @ 12:46 AM ET
I’ll be damned.
- Pegullaville



Wait you didn’t know they did that documentary?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:50 AM ET
Wait you didn’t know they did that documentary?
- dadeadhead


Honestly had no idea.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 21 @ 12:57 AM ET
If you want to cheer for playoff appearances that’s fine. I want to see a cup banner up there one day. By drafting a solid foundation that will give us a chance. Make the final trade to put us over the top. I don’t hear many fans talk about the past and all of the playoff appearances we have accumulated in our 50 year history, I do hear the “0 Cups” thing get thrown around constantly though.
- Pegullaville

I think there's a lot of Sabre history people look back on fondly and enjoy, despite none of these events led to a Cup. "Thank you, Sabres", Beating the Habs to go to the Cup. Fog game. May Day. 80 season. Beating the Legion of Doom. Beating the Leafs to go to the Cup. 05-06. 06-07.

I'm honestly wondering if you've ever rooted for the Sabres to win a game.

Seems an odd experience to never want the team to do well, in hopes of a better or (as in this year) not too much worse of a draft pick. Setting aside $kinner, you seem quite on board with JB's choices.

Besides making draft picks, should he do anything to try an improve the team? If he's not going to try and make the playoffs (and ultimately fail to win it all), there doesn't seem to be much of a point in pursuing high priced free agents. The pursuit of lower tier players would just seem to be an exercise in filling out below-adequate lineup. The only clear goal seems to be is to finish as poorly as possible year after year.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:57 AM ET
Once you have a down year you’re useless.


Didn’t you get the memo?

- dadeadhead

my fax machine must be broken.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 21 @ 12:59 AM ET
Yes, really
Why do u think Nashville is moving him?

It’s really not so tough

Just go back to your lame attempts at jokes & trolling though

- jdfitz77



Well you’re wrong about why Nashville is rumored to be moving him.

My jokes are hilarious if you just find a way into a stable mindset you’d understand.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 21 @ 1:03 AM ET
I guess
Should be able to acquire that fairly easily though

We can’t keep wasting years of Jack & Dahlin though
Trading ROR set us back

Botts has to be able to add guys to help win NOW,
AND In the future

While drafting well for the future also

It’s not this 1 or the other game that you & a lot of others seem to be playing

Botts has to do BOTH

- jdfitz77




jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 1:06 AM ET
Well you’re wrong about why Nashville is rumored to be moving him.

My jokes are hilarious if you just find a way into a stable mindset you’d understand.

- washedup20


Lol... i think u should look in the mirror troll
Obviously you have some deep issues
Good luck with that
Or not
I really don’t care
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