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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Draft weekend is a good time for trades. Some names in the rumor mill
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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
They are comparable only in the sense of their placement in the lineup.

Subban is unquestionably worth more than Bogosian. But that contract is woof central, and may hinder us in building a balanced roster. Dahlin is about to surpass Subban's offense for 8M less.

I'm simply against paying another guy who can't defend and is injury prone 9M. That's all. That's exactly what Nashville is thinking too. And they need a buyer.

- TheSabresTaco



So you’re saying you can read their minds?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
I thought it was Kalinin for iginla
And
Miller + Stanford for OV

- jdfitz77



There were rumors of Peca for Iginla and Peca for the #1 pick which became Kovalchuk back in the day.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
I might buy that. Nylander is much more skilled and Olofsson is more polished. IMO.But he'd be a top guy no doubt.
- TheSabresTaco


I don't think Nylander is a top 100 prospect anymore.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
I'd go 2 years
- SABRES 89



Fine sign me up.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:03 PM ET
Fine sign me up.
- dadeadhead


1 year 5 mil with MTC

Really have nothing to lose with it.


turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
Because this team stinks and has stunk for years now, you don't pin your future on a goalie of all positions, or should we continue to let Eichel and Company waste away ?
- SABRES 89


2.94 GAA .896 sav% last year
3.02 GAA .898sav% in playoffs

Hard pass




TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
So you’re saying you can read their minds?
- washedup20


Yes I am
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
1 year 5 mil with MTC

Really have nothing to lose with it.

- ImThatGuy



He just got paid 8 on the buyout. No more than 4
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 20 @ 3:11 PM ET
Yes I am
- TheSabresTaco



jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
Scandella's been regressing for 3 years straight. He should be one of the top priorities to address.
- TheSabresTaco


Think we can get anything for him now though?
Best bet might be to hope he can play decent on the 3rd pair & then move him for a mid round pick at the deadline

I’d be ok trading him for a low round pick right now,
but I’m not adding to get rid of him
Not unless we need the Cap Space for some other move
We’ve got plenty of time to figure that out though
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
Only players on ELC's and 35+ contracts can receive a performance bonus. Perry is 34.
- Sabresfan-365



I read something early that because of his buyout he is eligible for the bonus structure type contract

I am trying to find the article now

It's from the athletic: "Because Perry missed more than 100 days due to the knee issue, he is eligible to sign a one-year deal with a low base salary but earn a lot more in individual and team bonuses. And his camp could be willing to do that.

Edit so it was because of his injury
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
I don't disagree with JBott's future. No one knows it. I disagree with the idea that he lost on purpose. But you know that.

And, obviously, everyone 'wants' Dahlin. Win, lose, and everything in between, 31 teams want him.

- TheSabresTaco



Fair enough

I think we each have an opinion and we won't be changing that opinion anytime soon


🤝
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
Send McCabe and Wilson (add a 6th if needed) to Edmonton for Puljujarvi and Russell.
Send Okposo and Bogo to Ottawa for Ryan and Borowiecki.
Sign Benn
Sign Magnus Pääjärvi

Skinner Eichel Reinhart
Olofsson Mitts Nylander
Puljujarvi Larsson Pääjärvi
Girgs Erod Ryan

Dahlin Russell
Benn Risto
Borowiecki Montour

- adambuffalo


All kinds of no thank you here
Puljujärvi is the only guy brought in that I’m even remotely interested in

That 2nd line needs to be our 3rd line if we are going for the playoffs this year
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
Please do something stupid Vancouver and hand us Boeser for Risto +
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
All kinds of no thank you here
Puljujärvi is the only guy brought in that I’m even remotely interested in

That 2nd line needs to be our 3rd line if we are going for the playoffs this year

- jdfitz77




Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
I read something early that because of his buyout he is eligible for the bonus structure type contract

I am trying to find the article now

It's from the athletic: "Because Perry missed more than 100 days due to the knee issue, he is eligible to sign a one-year deal with a low base salary but earn a lot more in individual and team bonuses. And his camp could be willing to do that.

Edit so it was because of his injury

- Stripes77



Ah my mistake.

If you've played 400 games and have missed 100 days in the last year of your deal you're eligible for performance bonuses on a one year deal.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:43 PM ET
Ah my mistake.

If you've played 400 games and have missed 100 days in the previous season you're eligible for performance bonuses on a one year deal.

- Sabresfan-365



Who knows how his knee is holding up

But I would rather have him in the locker room over a guy like Pommer

I like Pommer but Corey Perry and his leadership is something that locker room could use.

Even him at 75% can help this team
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:46 PM ET
Who knows how his knee is holding up

But I would rather have him in the locker room over a guy like Pommer

I like Pommer but Corey Perry and his leadership is something that locker room could use.

Even him at 75% can help this team

- Stripes77



Thing is, given his age and that it's his knee...Why would he be after a performance bonus heavy deal?

I think at this point he's more likely to take a pay cut on the total potential dollars in exchange for security.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
Chad DeDominicis


@CMDeDominicis
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Sounds like the talk on Ristolainen is picking up. Nothing is imminent at this point, but TB still feels like the most likely landing spot if a trade happens. VAN and FLA have been in the mix as well.


Does this guy have sources? Or is he just an analytic guy?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
Thing is, given his age and that it's his knee...Why would he be after a performance bonus heavy deal?

I think at this point he's more likely to take a pay cut on the total potential dollars in exchange for security.

- Sabresfan-365


2 years $3 million per
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:50 PM ET
Chad DeDominicis


@CMDeDominicis
46m46 minutes ago
More
Sounds like the talk on Ristolainen is picking up. Nothing is imminent at this point, but TB still feels like the most likely landing spot if a trade happens. VAN and FLA have been in the mix as well.


Does this guy have sources? Or is he just an analytic guy?

- Stripes77


Yes he has a source, won’t shed more light on it.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:50 PM ET
Chad DeDominicis


@CMDeDominicis
46m46 minutes ago
More
Sounds like the talk on Ristolainen is picking up. Nothing is imminent at this point, but TB still feels like the most likely landing spot if a trade happens. VAN and FLA have been in the mix as well.


Does this guy have sources? Or is he just an analytic guy?

- Stripes77



He's neither. His analytics stuff comes from one of his twitter followers.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:50 PM ET
2 years $3 million per
- Stripes77



maybe a little lower on the dollars but i think that's about right in terms of what gets him signed.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:54 PM ET
maybe a little lower on the dollars but i think that's about right in terms of what gets him signed.
- Sabresfan-365



To Buffalo I think you gotta pay him the $3 million per

If he is chasing a cup it's not here though
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 3:54 PM ET
Thing is, given his age and that it's his knee...Why would he be after a performance bonus heavy deal?

I think at this point he's more likely to take a pay cut on the total potential dollars in exchange for security.

- Sabresfan-365


Because he's made ~83M in just salary over the course of his career, and a lower contract $ prolly puts more suitors out there with the ability to afford them, as the bonuses roll to the next year. Just a thought.
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