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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:26 PM ET
-Chuck Fletcher who did absolutely nothing in many, many years in Minnesota.
-Therrien and Yeo.
-Gudas for Niskanen
-Overpaying and undervaluing picks to chase a declining and one dimensional Braun.
-Chasing to potentially overpay more mediocrity in Hayes

It’s amazing. We should have truly expected no better after Hextall was fired.

(frank)ing horsepoop. Keep trying to sell the fanbase on this crap.

- flyer_nutter

Give it til the 2nd week of July at least. He's obviously not content to roll into next season with the same pieces. Right now he can only acquire what's available.

I think after draft day and the first few days of free agency this lineup could look pretty different.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:26 PM ET
I don't think what I say matters? Or more accurately, I think what I say matters just about as much as what anyone else on here has to say

It's really weird to point out that what other people doesn't say matters because that also means you're saying what you say doesn't matter. Of course it doesn't (frank)ing matter. We aren't part of flyers management so our opinions on trades and whatever else happens mean dog poop. But we can still say it because it's a (frank)ing chat site. It's amazing how you are completely unable to grasp how other people may have different opinions than you and that doesn't make them wrong. You're not the end all be all voice of what's good or bad. Noone on here is so stop acting like it

- bulet13

Stupid random comments like “Personally, I’m having a good time” offers nothing.

So no, what you say doesn’t matter.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:26 PM ET
-Chuck Fletcher who did absolutely nothing in many, many years in Minnesota.
-Therrien and Yeo. - Nothing wrong with this after the last coaching staff. Who else were they going to get?
-Gudas for Niskanen - Gudas was likely gone after 2019 and it’s pretty apparent Niskanen is the better player for one additional year
-Overpaying and undervaluing picks to chase a declining and one dimensional Braun. Might agree slightly, but bringing in some leadership to complement the young kids over trotting out Gudas and one more year of AMac also makes sense if you want to start competing
-Chasing to potentially overpay more mediocrity in Hayes. We’ll have to see the final terms if he signs, but he is one of the better centers this FA season also. I hope they don’t overpay also, but that’s the nature of the FA season.

It’s amazing. We should have truly expected no better after Hextall was fired.

(frank)ing horsepoop. Keep trying to sell the fanbase on this crap.

- flyer_nutter
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:26 PM ET
Weeeeee Justin Braun was mister blown coverage on the sharks

This is a god awful trade
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:28 PM ET
Stupid random comments like “Personally, I’m having a good time” offers nothing.

So no, what you say doesn’t matter.

- SuperSchennBros


You're such an idiot I love it hahaha

Never change man never change
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:32 PM ET
are hagg and morin in the same class as the others you mentioned? yes or no?
- daryl stanley

It doesn’t matter. If you move one of Provorov, Sanheim, Ghost or Myers, Hagg and Morin become even more important.

You’re just desperately try to win your own agenda. Even if we traded Hagg for Braun, it’s still a bad move because you only get Braun a couple years and you lose a young, good role player like Hagg for example for a small fix.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
You guys will like Braun. He is very steady and works hard.
- Mahewman

AMac was the same but sucked in the end
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
You're such an idiot I love it hahaha

Never change man never change

- bulet13

Yeah, I’m sure you can smell your own kind when you come across one.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:34 PM ET
I am fine with the deal as long as it doesnt mean Myers gets sent down. Braun is a solid Dman. We are past the point of rebuilding through the draft.

Giroux
Couturier
Voracek
NoPa
Konecny
Lindblom
JVR
Hayes(TBD)

Thats a good group of Top 9 forwards. Add another winger to the mix and we are good. Hayes might end up being expensive, but thats the market now. Anyone in the 50 point mark range is going to be asking for 6 mill now.

Defensively we have:

Provorov
Ghost
Sanheim
Myers
Niskanen
Braun
Morin
Hagg

Thats a good look on D. Its no Boston D Core but they are guys who can get the job done.

With Carter Hart at G we just need a vet backup. Talbot is probably going to sign. Reality is going to smack him just like it did Mason. He cried he didnt want to be in a 1a 1b situation, he ended up signing in the exact same situation and became a backup and eventually unemployed by the NHL
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:36 PM ET
Yeah, I’m sure you can smell your own kind when you come across one.
- SuperSchennBros


Ah, the classic "insult myself to also insult someone else" strategy

You take this board way too seriously. Have a beer.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:37 PM ET
I am fine with the deal as long as it doesnt mean Myers gets sent down. Braun is a solid Dman. We are past the point of rebuilding through the draft.

Giroux
Couturier
Voracek
NoPa
Konecny
Lindblom
JVR
Hayes(TBD)

Thats a good group of Top 9 forwards. Add another winger to the mix and we are good. Hayes might end up being expensive, but thats the market now. Anyone in the 50 point mark range is going to be asking for 6 mill now.

Defensively we have:

Provorov
Ghost
Sanheim
Myers
Niskanen
Braun
Morin
Hagg

Thats a good look on D. Its no Boston D Core but they are guys who can get the job done.

With Carter Hart at G we just need a vet backup. Talbot is probably going to sign. Reality is going to smack him just like it did Mason. He cried he didnt want to be in a 1a 1b situation, he ended up signing in the exact same situation and became a backup and eventually unemployed by the NHL

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You named 8 defensemen. You don’t see the problem with this? You think we’re going into next season with all of them?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:37 PM ET
-Chuck Fletcher who did absolutely nothing in many, many years in Minnesota.
-Therrien and Yeo.
-Gudas for Niskanen
-Overpaying and undervaluing picks to chase a declining and one dimensional Braun.
-Chasing to potentially overpay more mediocrity in Hayes

It’s amazing. We should have truly expected no better after Hextall was fired.

(frank)ing horsepoop. Keep trying to sell the fanbase on this crap.

- flyer_nutter


Nothing wrong with the assistants they hired. Gudas for Niskanen was a solid move. The Braun trade as it stands now, I don't like. I don't think the Flyers should sign Hayes for what it is going to cost. I like the player but he doesn't move the bar enough.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:38 PM ET
Ah, the classic "insult myself to also insult someone else" strategy

You take this board way too seriously. Have a beer.

- bulet13

You just called me an idiot and now you’re claiming I’m taking this board too serious.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:38 PM ET
I am fine with the deal as long as it doesnt mean Myers gets sent down. Braun is a solid Dman. We are past the point of rebuilding through the draft.

Giroux
Couturier
Voracek
NoPa
Konecny
Lindblom
JVR
Hayes(TBD)

Thats a good group of Top 9 forwards. Add another winger to the mix and we are good. Hayes might end up being expensive, but thats the market now. Anyone in the 50 point mark range is going to be asking for 6 mill now.

Defensively we have:

Provorov
Ghost
Sanheim
Myers
Niskanen
Braun
Morin
Hagg

Thats a good look on D. Its no Boston D Core but they are guys who can get the job done.

With Carter Hart at G we just need a vet backup. Talbot is probably going to sign. Reality is going to smack him just like it did Mason. He cried he didnt want to be in a 1a 1b situation, he ended up signing in the exact same situation and became a backup and eventually unemployed by the NHL

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I still think that forward group needs an upgrade somewhere beyond just Hayes. Still too many passers and not enough shooters imo. If the posts can start going TK's way that will be huge.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 18 @ 6:38 PM ET
It doesn’t matter. If you move one of Provorov, Sanheim, Ghost or Myers, Hagg and Morin become even more important.

You’re just desperately try to win your own agenda. Even if we traded Hagg for Braun, it’s still a bad move because you only get Braun a couple years and you lose a young, good role player like Hagg for example for a small fix.

- SuperSchennBros

No agenda. it was a simple question as it seems to me you value those 2 the same as the others.

Morin is not in anyway important to any success the flyers have going forward. If he pans out great; to count on him for anything at this point is foolish.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:39 PM ET
You just called me an idiot and now you’re claiming I’m taking this board too serious.
- SuperSchennBros


Didn't realize calling someone an idiot was a serious matter

#logic
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:39 PM ET
Provorov, Sanheim, Gostisbehere, Hagg, Myers, Morin. That’s six. Yes, I would say one has to go.

To me, moving one or two of these players is burning down five years of what it took to be built.

- SuperSchennBros


How do you figure when you dont even know the return? If he is packaged for a guy like Marner (Yes its not gonna happen but hypothetically) is that not a good return that does not set us back? As long as we get a young skilled forward its not burning down anything. You would have a point if Ghost is traded for a guy like Marleau but Fletcher isnt that dumb. He has made smart moves to better the team. You cant sit there and just build through the draft. All Cup winners add pieces. People thought St.Louis overpaid for RoR and look how that turned out.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
No agenda. it was a simple question as it seems to me you value those 2 the same as the others.

Morin is not in anyway important to any success the flyers have going forward. If he pans out great; to count on him for anything at this point is foolish.

- daryl stanley

Oh boy....

How important is Justin Braun to the Flyers success?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:42 PM ET
Oh boy....

How important is Justin Braun to the Flyers success?

- SuperSchennBros


12 units of importance
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:42 PM ET
You named 8 defensemen. You don’t see the problem with this? You think we’re going into next season with all of them?
- SuperSchennBros

Hagg or Morin will be the odd man out. Will be really frustrating if they move Morin after all these years and got what, a handful of NHL games out of him.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:43 PM ET
How do you figure when you dont even know the return? If he is packaged for a guy like Marner (Yes its not gonna happen but hypothetically) is that not a good return that does not set us back? As long as we get a young skilled forward its not burning down anything. You would have a point if Ghost is traded for a guy like Marleau but Fletcher isnt that dumb. He has made smart moves to better the team. You cant sit there and just build through the draft. All Cup winners add pieces. People thought St.Louis overpaid for RoR and look how that turned out.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I give up!

If you think we’re trading for Mitch Marner, I’ve got nothing for you....

I don’t care if Marner is just a Hypothetical example, it’s a bad hypothetical example.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 18 @ 6:43 PM ET
Oh boy....

How important is Justin Braun to the Flyers success?

- SuperSchennBros

all you do is deflect.

Define success.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 18 @ 6:43 PM ET
Ah, the classic "insult myself to also insult someone else" strategy

You take this board way too seriously. Have a beer.

- bulet13

🍻 🍻🍻🥳
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 18 @ 6:44 PM ET
Hagg or Morin will be the odd man out. Will be really frustrating if they move Morin after all these years and got what, a handful of NHL games out of him.
- hereticpride

it will be Hagg imo. As they probably want to see what Morin can do. Unfortunately they are not in a spot to hand him a top 6 job
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:44 PM ET
Didn't realize calling someone an idiot was a serious matter

#logic

- bulet13

What???
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